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frogbottom

Charleston, WV

#1 Jan 10, 2008
have you been to the family court judge? what was your experience?
Havereturned2

Charleston, WV

#2 Jan 11, 2008
frogbottom wrote:
have you been to the family court judge? what was your experience?
My experience, in 2005, was a complete joke. Judge was on the phone at her home. She got the whole Child support Order thing screwed up and another one had to be issued. He still hasn't paid. Family Court is a joke.
fyi

Greenville, NC

#3 Jan 11, 2008
well maybe you need to petition family court for a contempt order. its up to you not them to enforce orders.
passing thru

Charleston, WV

#4 Jan 11, 2008
i had a similar experience but she had to get off the phone because my ex was also calling in for the hearing. it seemed unprofessional to me. also she will not do anything to a parent that is in contempt. is anyone going to run against her in the next election?
Havereturned2

Greenville, NC

#5 Jan 12, 2008
fyi wrote:
well maybe you need to petition family court for a contempt order. its up to you not them to enforce orders.
He's had 5 or more.
This was his petition to lower child support. He hasn't paid anything and he wants it lowered. lol
No, it's up to child support enforcement to enforce those orders. You just don't keep going back to court to get court orders. It's up to the courts to enforce their "court orders".
I'm not the police, I can't enforce anything. If I could, we wouldn't be talking child support, we'd be talking death benefits for the kids.
lol

Willis, TX

#6 Jan 12, 2008
that lady is horrible. no heart

Since: Jan 08

Conroe, TX

#7 Jan 12, 2008
I wish you luck. My ex has made 2 payments in the last decade, but only because they found where he was working and garnished his wages. Of course, as soon as they did that, he quit and hasn't worked since. He petitioned to have his child support payments lowered to $50/month because he wasn't working, not because he can't, but because he didn't want to pay CS, and it was granted! He's had numerous contempt orders, and a warrant for arrest, which has never been carried out because he has friends in the PD. Family court is a joke, not only in Summers County, but in the entire state. My only suggestion is to call the child support bureau every single day until they do something. If you don't call and irritate them, they will do absolutely nothing.
passing thru

Charleston, WV

#8 Jan 12, 2008
lol, amen to that! the lives of children are in her hands it looks like she would do a through investigation on special cases instead of being in a hurry to get to lunch.
Havereturned2

Greenville, NC

#9 Jan 12, 2008
glad2bgone wrote:
I wish you luck. My ex has made 2 payments in the last decade, but only because they found where he was working and garnished his wages. Of course, as soon as they did that, he quit and hasn't worked since. He petitioned to have his child support payments lowered to $50/month because he wasn't working, not because he can't, but because he didn't want to pay CS, and it was granted! He's had numerous contempt orders, and a warrant for arrest, which has never been carried out because he has friends in the PD. Family court is a joke, not only in Summers County, but in the entire state. My only suggestion is to call the child support bureau every single day until they do something. If you don't call and irritate them, they will do absolutely nothing.
I was sitting in the child support office in Charleston and my ex was $40,000 behind then and the girls wondered why nothing hadn't been done about it before it got that high. I told them that the courts had their chance but didn't do anything, not even when there were "family law masters". Now he's about $100,000 behind and he's on SSI for the last couple of years. The child support worker said I might as well "forgive it" because I will never get it. I said "never", I worked and supported my kids and he'll always owe me that. Too bad, he'll never have anything unless I get it. LOL!

Those warrents get "misfiled" too often. I've seen it happen to many times.

Since: Jan 08

Hinton, WV

#10 Jan 12, 2008
Havereturned2, did the BCSE tell you that you yourself can have him arrested for non payment of support without BCSE's help or getting another court order? When my ex husband was majorly behind on his support payments and I went in to talk to the workers at Child Support Enforcement who told me that it wasn't up to them to make him follow the court order, it was up to me to have the court take action (such as suspending his drivers license, arresting him, etc). My question is this: what exactly is their job if they can't enforce the payments they are being paid to enforce?
dead beat dad

Victoria, TX

#11 Jan 12, 2008
i just wanted to say i feel for all of you terribly. both of my brothers were (still are 1 of them any way) dead beat dads. my friend is working her butt off to support her 1 and only child from a father of a dead beat dad who can but won't work because they continually garnish his wages to pay his back child support. i have adopted 2 of my brothers kids to take over where he and the mother couldn't. my hat is off to you ladies for trying to get every red cent from these "gentlemen" and i use that term very lightly.

Since: Jan 08

Conroe, TX

#12 Jan 12, 2008
WVMomof3,
It IS BCSE's responsibility to file for contempt, to file to have driver's licenses revoked, to file petitions to have the guilty parties arrested, to put liens on any property/bank accounts that they have, etc.-- and if they tell you it isn't their job, they are lying.

They cannot "enforce" the orders, per se, but it is their job to file the petitions, the contempt orders, and work with the lawyers so that the court will enforce what they have already ordered. That is why they are there, it is their JOB to file these things, not yours.

I realize that they are understaffed in many cases, and have huge case loads -- I also realize that the ones of us that make the most noise are the ones that get helped first. For the last couple years, I've called them at least 3 times a week, sometimes more, and will continue to do so. At least now there are some small signs of progress, whereas before there was not even a light at the end of the tunnel.
Havereturned2

Greenville, NC

#13 Jan 13, 2008
WVMomof3 wrote:
Havereturned2, did the BCSE tell you that you yourself can have him arrested for non payment of support without BCSE's help or getting another court order? When my ex husband was majorly behind on his support payments and I went in to talk to the workers at Child Support Enforcement who told me that it wasn't up to them to make him follow the court order, it was up to me to have the court take action (such as suspending his drivers license, arresting him, etc). My question is this: what exactly is their job if they can't enforce the payments they are being paid to enforce?
It's up to them to do all the above. What would be their function if they weren't involved with child support? The agencies name is: Child support ENFORCEMENT.
The girls said: "wonder why WE haven't done anything to let this amount get this high?"
They never took his drivers license. They attached his wages, but he quit. He told the kids that "mom took all his check for child support and that's why he had to quit." What a thing to tell your kids.
When he got on SSI the child support worker said that they were closing his case. They would not be actively seeking child support. Of course, I told them they never did that anyway. The judge would not be taking his license, or put him in jail because they don't do that when they are on SSI. I told them that "case closed" did not mean that that money amount would disappear. She said no, that would always stay on the books UNLESS I forgive it. Never!!
I took him to court at least five or six times. The judges never did anything. I even went to magistrate court and he did go to jail then. He got out when his girlfriend paid his bail and what the judge told him to pay to me. At least, I got money then, about $200.00.
This is why the courts are a joke. You can take them to court, demand them to charge him with contempt of a court order and put him in jail. That's as far as you can go. The judges decide what is to be done with him. So far, nothing. At least, my conscious is clear. My kids didn't have the best, but they had what they needed. He can't say he did anything for them.

Since: Jan 08

Hinton, WV

#14 Jan 13, 2008
glad2bgone wrote:
I also realize that the ones of us that make the most noise are the ones that get helped first. For the last couple years, I've called them at least 3 times a week, sometimes more, and will continue to do so. At least now there are some small signs of progress, whereas before there was not even a light at the end of the tunnel.
Very true. I also realize that the ones of us that make noise are the ones that get help first. When it came to my youngest son's father, I called child support enforcement every day because they weren't doing their jobs. I ended up having to do their work for them when it came to the process server serving him, getting a record of the serving once it was done, and so on. It was only after I emailed Charleston and informed them of the work that I had to do vss the work that those at BCSE had done that action was taken. Since then the minute I open my mouth they jump to attention. Child Support Enforcement workers do not like me to say the least, but my thing is when it comes to my children nothing is more important.
citizen of hinton

Normantown, WV

#15 Jan 13, 2008
that is great they don't like me either, i told that lady that i am the one that is supporting my son, not the dead beat dad, but my case goes out of state so they itsn't much i can do i am open for suggestes.
Darryl

Driftwood, PA

#16 Jan 13, 2008
One time I had to go to court for kicking everyones ass in a bar fight.
destiny kid

Charleston, WV

#17 Jan 14, 2008
the magistrates wouldn't help me today. i went down there & the women at the desks there told me that the magistrates didn't handle anything to do with child support & that i needed to contact janet steele. well, if she would have done anything to help me in the first place, i woudn't have been down there asking for their help. i filed a criminal charge against him & they are gonna indite (however u spell that) him. if he's not gonna pay anything for the kids, then i'd be satisfied for him to be in jail.
herman

United States

#18 Jan 23, 2008
don't ever give up.. i know a man that skipped out on his girls and remarried... he never would pay and would move to another state when they found him... well he was about fifty thousand dollars behind on child support... all went well until he retired... and guess what... they took half of his retirement... he paid for several years and had to work part time just to make ends meet...he died before it was all paid back ... but the moral to the story... evil deeds often come back when you least expect it... like carma
Havereturned2

Charleston, WV

#19 Jan 24, 2008
destiny kid wrote:
the magistrates wouldn't help me today. i went down there & the women at the desks there told me that the magistrates didn't handle anything to do with child support & that i needed to contact janet steele. well, if she would have done anything to help me in the first place, i woudn't have been down there asking for their help. i filed a criminal charge against him & they are gonna indite (however u spell that) him. if he's not gonna pay anything for the kids, then i'd be satisfied for him to be in jail.
I think that is what you had to do is file a criminal charge against him. It's the way the law on the books is worded that doesn't talk too much on child support. I believe it's a reason being that you can get him on it, not that they collect child support for you.
Most guys don't know about the law. Just because it's in civil court and not circuit court where the divorce and child support court order was issued, it still does the job. Jail is jail with bars no matter what court you're in. lol
NO JUSTICE

Brooklyn, NY

#20 Jan 25, 2008
Havereturned2 wrote:
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I was sitting in the child support office in Charleston and my ex was $40,000 behind then and the girls wondered why nothing hadn't been done about it before it got that high. I told them that the courts had their chance but didn't do anything, not even when there were "family law masters". Now he's about $100,000 behind and he's on SSI for the last couple of years. The child support worker said I might as well "forgive it" because I will never get it. I said "never", I worked and supported my kids and he'll always owe me that. Too bad, he'll never have anything unless I get it. LOL!
Those warrents get "misfiled" too often. I've seen it happen to many times.
think positive someday he may hit the lottery or sell property then go collect it all....with interest

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