House votes to cut down on camouflage

House votes to cut down on camouflage

There are 96 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jun 14, 2013, titled House votes to cut down on camouflage. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

Brig. Gen. Rich McPhee, left, and Col. John Norwood on Feb 8, 2005, while their troops from the 48th Infantry Brigade, Georgia Army National Guard receive the new Army Combat Uniform at Fort Stewart, Ga.

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Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#22 Jun 16, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants.......for those of you that said their was no proof.......
NO information teabagger.

Where were teabaggers before Jan.20th 2009?

In a Bush coma, of course.

Bush authorized warrantless NSA wiretapping in October 2001. However, Joseph Nacchio former CEO of Qwest convicted April 19, 2007 of insider trading reported that the NSA in a meeting on February 27, 2001 (1 month after Bush became President and 6 1/2 months before 9/11) tried to sign Qwest up to a warrantless surveillance program and that when Nacchio refused the NSA pulled hundreds of millions of dollars worth of contracts from the company.

In addition to this, the Administration appeared intent on exploiting the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) to expand the scope of its surveillance. This act requires telecoms to configure their equipment to facilitate governmental wiretapping. While the act was not envisioned as a means of large scale warrantless wiretapping, it could with the help of service providers like the telecoms be turned into one. Supporting this view is that on March 10, 2004, the DOJ, FBI, and DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) petitioned the FCC to extend CALEA to the internet (see item 252). This action coming as it did on the same day as the Ashcroft hospital visit (described below) may have been an effort to expand or acquire additional cover for a data mining program like Main Core that was already in operation.

In a scheme apparently orchestrated by Vice President Cheney, Bush called Mrs. Ashcroft and Cheney "on the Presidentís behalf" ordered then White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales and Chief of Staff Andrew Card to go to the hospital and get the ailing and doped up Ashcroft to sign off on the surveillance program.

Poor teabagger.
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#23 Jun 16, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants.......for those of you that said their was no proof.......
Is that the same as sending people to GITMO forever without charges against them, maybe to be waterboarded?????

Let me help you answer that: NO.

Does this help?

Dick Cheney: NSA Leaker A 'Traitor'
Snowden may also be a Chinese spy, says ex-VP
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#24 Jun 16, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
NO information teabagger.
Where were teabaggers before Jan.20th 2009?
In a Bush coma, of course.
Bush authorized warrantless NSA wiretapping in October 2001. However, Joseph Nacchio former CEO of Qwest convicted April 19, 2007 of insider trading reported that the NSA in a meeting on February 27, 2001 (1 month after Bush became President and 6 1/2 months before 9/11) tried to sign Qwest up to a warrantless surveillance program and that when Nacchio refused the NSA pulled hundreds of millions of dollars worth of contracts from the company.
In addition to this, the Administration appeared intent on exploiting the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) to expand the scope of its surveillance. This act requires telecoms to configure their equipment to facilitate governmental wiretapping. While the act was not envisioned as a means of large scale warrantless wiretapping, it could with the help of service providers like the telecoms be turned into one. Supporting this view is that on March 10, 2004, the DOJ, FBI, and DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) petitioned the FCC to extend CALEA to the internet (see item 252). This action coming as it did on the same day as the Ashcroft hospital visit (described below) may have been an effort to expand or acquire additional cover for a data mining program like Main Core that was already in operation.
In a scheme apparently orchestrated by Vice President Cheney, Bush called Mrs. Ashcroft and Cheney "on the Presidentís behalf" ordered then White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales and Chief of Staff Andrew Card to go to the hospital and get the ailing and doped up Ashcroft to sign off on the surveillance program.
Poor teabagger.
Then Bush is a traitor like the rest of his underlings......and the follow ons the Dems are traitors also. For they have not stopped it. Hang them all. Right! Now lets watch some internet news and videos on police abuses and the progressive educated killing their own and others. Wait..wait we gotta get Zimmermann...that hata!...bwhaaa!
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#25 Jun 16, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> Then Bush is a traitor like the rest of his underlings......and the follow ons the Dems are traitors also. For they have not stopped it. Hang them all. Right! Now lets watch some internet news and videos on police abuses and the progressive educated killing their own and others. Wait..wait we gotta get Zimmermann...that hata!...bwhaaa!
"The surest way for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing".

That's what the Democrats are doing.

I don't understand and don't like it.

I am a registered independent.

That and $42.50 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

Zimmerman?

What did he do?

“Life is Good”

Since: Nov 08

Perpignan

#26 Jun 17, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
<quoted text>
Low information, low information, low information:
Limbaugh: GOP Embarrassed by Its Christian, Pro-Gun Base
Awk,awk,awk,awk,awk,awk.
Nice tooth.......meth head.

“Life is Good”

Since: Nov 08

Perpignan

#27 Jun 17, 2013
Makes sense wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that the same as sending people to GITMO forever without charges against them, maybe to be waterboarded?????
Let me help you answer that: NO.
Does this help?
Dick Cheney: NSA Leaker A 'Traitor'
Snowden may also be a Chinese spy, says ex-VP
Hint pookie, American citizen is a bit different than enemy combatants caught on the battle field. I guess for a low information voter you were never taught comprehension.

“Life is Good”

Since: Nov 08

Perpignan

#28 Jun 17, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
NO information teabagger.
Where were teabaggers before Jan.20th 2009?
In a Bush coma, of course.
Bush authorized warrantless NSA wiretapping in October 2001. However, Joseph Nacchio former CEO of Qwest convicted April 19, 2007 of insider trading reported that the NSA in a meeting on February 27, 2001 (1 month after Bush became President and 6 1/2 months before 9/11) tried to sign Qwest up to a warrantless surveillance program and that when Nacchio refused the NSA pulled hundreds of millions of dollars worth of contracts from the company.
In addition to this, the Administration appeared intent on exploiting the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) to expand the scope of its surveillance. This act requires telecoms to configure their equipment to facilitate governmental wiretapping. While the act was not envisioned as a means of large scale warrantless wiretapping, it could with the help of service providers like the telecoms be turned into one. Supporting this view is that on March 10, 2004, the DOJ, FBI, and DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) petitioned the FCC to extend CALEA to the internet (see item 252). This action coming as it did on the same day as the Ashcroft hospital visit (described below) may have been an effort to expand or acquire additional cover for a data mining program like Main Core that was already in operation.
In a scheme apparently orchestrated by Vice President Cheney, Bush called Mrs. Ashcroft and Cheney "on the Presidentís behalf" ordered then White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales and Chief of Staff Andrew Card to go to the hospital and get the ailing and doped up Ashcroft to sign off on the surveillance program.
Poor teabagger.
When are you loons going to hold your clown in chief to account for his actions.......you do know he has been President over four years now.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#30 Jun 17, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>When are you loons going to hold your clown in chief to account for his actions.......you do know he has been President over four years now.
Hold him "accountable"?

Is that like a politician saying "I take full responsibility" and then get promoted?

Why is it, teabaggers were fine with the NSA wiretaps for over a decade, NOW they whine.

"In 2007, Hannity attacked Democrats as "the party that's weak on national defense, that doesn't want the Patriot Act, the NSA program," or "the data mining program."

www.examiner.com/article/sean-hannity-calls-n... ... Cached

Only now that there is a Democrat sitting in the Oval Office does Sean Hannity suddenly consider the NSA's monitoring program to be unconstitutional.

Why do teabaggers look to democrats to fix THEIR legislation?

It was wrong then, it's wrong now but it's STILL not enough to make me vote for ANY teabagger.

Poor teabagger.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#31 Jun 17, 2013
Some of the most controversial aspects of the U.S. intelligence apparatus constructed after Bush declared war on terrorism have Romney's fingerprints on them. As governor, he pushed for vast data-mining centers, wiretapping of mosques, spying on foreign students and enlisting average citizens to keep tabs on fellow Americans. Romney has vowed to continue the policies as president.

After arriving at the Massachusetts State House, Romney put what he learned into practice. He set up two of the country's first fusion centers, the controversial data-mining hubs that vacuum up and share intelligence from local, state and federal agencies and the private sector to detect terrorist plots. To some, the fusion centers suggest a Big Brother surveillance state.

Romney also pushed for them as chairman of a federal task force on intelligence sharing. "He was definitely instrumental in laying the intellectual framework for fusion centers, and the role of state and local law enforcement in domestic counter terrorism and the need for clear guidelines concerning state and local domestic intelligence gathering," Filler said.

There are now 77 fusion centers nationwide.

But, as in other areas of governance where he tended to go it alone, Romney did not confer with state legislators or the public to address concerns about how the centers would affect privacy and civil liberties. He simply issued an executive order.
Bigfoot

Houston, TX

#32 Jun 17, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
Hold him "accountable"?
Is that like a politician saying "I take full responsibility" and then get promoted?
Why is it, teabaggers were fine with the NSA wiretaps for over a decade, NOW they whine.
"In 2007, Hannity attacked Democrats as "the party that's weak on national defense, that doesn't want the Patriot Act, the NSA program," or "the data mining program."
www.examiner.com/article/sean-hannity-calls-n... ... Cached
Only now that there is a Democrat sitting in the Oval Office does Sean Hannity suddenly consider the NSA's monitoring program to be unconstitutional.
Why do teabaggers look to democrats to fix THEIR legislation?
It was wrong then, it's wrong now but it's STILL not enough to make me vote for ANY teabagger.
Poor teabagger.
The tea party has only been around since 2009. Why lie ?
Bigfoot

Houston, TX

#33 Jun 17, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
Some of the most controversial aspects of the U.S. intelligence apparatus constructed after Bush declared war on terrorism have Romney's fingerprints on them. As governor, he pushed for vast data-mining centers, wiretapping of mosques, spying on foreign students and enlisting average citizens to keep tabs on fellow Americans. Romney has vowed to continue the policies as president.
After arriving at the Massachusetts State House, Romney put what he learned into practice. He set up two of the country's first fusion centers, the controversial data-mining hubs that vacuum up and share intelligence from local, state and federal agencies and the private sector to detect terrorist plots. To some, the fusion centers suggest a Big Brother surveillance state.
Romney also pushed for them as chairman of a federal task force on intelligence sharing. "He was definitely instrumental in laying the intellectual framework for fusion centers, and the role of state and local law enforcement in domestic counter terrorism and the need for clear guidelines concerning state and local domestic intelligence gathering," Filler said.
There are now 77 fusion centers nationwide.
But, as in other areas of governance where he tended to go it alone, Romney did not confer with state legislators or the public to address concerns about how the centers would affect privacy and civil liberties. He simply issued an executive order.
If Obama is President, Why always try to blame others ? If we had a president, other than a Democratic one, Would you still blame others ? Sounds like you like to blame others, rather than have Obama take responsibility and fix what we have today. All past presidents have made mistakes.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#34 Jun 17, 2013
Bigfoot wrote:
<quoted text>
The tea party has only been around since 2009. Why lie ?
Who did teabaggers vote for? Bush, McCain and Romney.

Who did teabaggers support and defend? Bush.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#35 Jun 17, 2013
Bigfoot wrote:
<quoted text>
If Obama is President, Why always try to blame others ? If we had a president, other than a Democratic one, Would you still blame others ? Sounds like you like to blame others, rather than have Obama take responsibility and fix what we have today. All past presidents have made mistakes.
When it stops being their fault.

So.........in the teabagger logic, Obama is responsible for the un "Patriot" Act?

For the invasion of Iraq?

"Sounds like you like to blame others, rather than have Obama take responsibility and fix what we have today".

Sounds like you're doing EXACTLY that.

Blaming Obama for what Bush did.

I stated it was wrong then as it is now

Teabaggers supported and defended it, until Obama became president,

NOW they whine.

Teabagger hypocrisy
Bigfoot

Houston, TX

#36 Jun 17, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
Who did teabaggers vote for? Bush, McCain and Romney.
Who did teabaggers support and defend? Bush.
I don't no, who they voted for. I do no, they started up in 2009, not a decade ago. What difference does it make who they backed up ? Obama is president. Any wrongs should be made correct by the present preident, not the past ones. Sounds like your barking up the wrong tree, trying to blame the past and not helping the future.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#37 Jun 17, 2013
Bigfoot wrote:
<quoted text>
The tea party has only been around since 2009. Why lie ?
Because it's not.

Teabaggers are nothing more than repackaged republicans.

They have to rebrand themselves every decade, lest someone finds out.
Bigfoot

Houston, TX

#38 Jun 17, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
Because it's not.
Teabaggers are nothing more than repackaged republicans.
They have to rebrand themselves every decade, lest someone finds out.
A decade is 10 years. The tea party is only 4 years old. You Lie.
Bigfoot

Houston, TX

#39 Jun 17, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
When it stops being their fault.
So.........in the teabagger logic, Obama is responsible for the un "Patriot" Act?
For the invasion of Iraq?
"Sounds like you like to blame others, rather than have Obama take responsibility and fix what we have today".
Sounds like you're doing EXACTLY that.
Blaming Obama for what Bush did.
I stated it was wrong then as it is now
Teabaggers supported and defended it, until Obama became president,
NOW they whine.
Teabagger hypocrisy
I do blame people like you who point fingers to the past, that can't do anything to fix the problems today. Let's move forward to fix the future.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#40 Jun 17, 2013
Bigfoot wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't no, who they voted for. I do no, they started up in 2009, not a decade ago. What difference does it make who they backed up ? Obama is president. Any wrongs should be made correct by the present preident, not the past ones. Sounds like your barking up the wrong tree, trying to blame the past and not helping the future.
Because the people they backed up have no inclination to change it either they defended it and still support it.

They didn't "start" in 2009, they rebranded themselves in 2009.

If someone comes along to repeal it, they'll have my vote.

Sounds like you're barking up the wrong tree if you voted for Romney.

He wouldn't have changed anything either.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#41 Jun 17, 2013
Bigfoot wrote:
<quoted text>
A decade is 10 years. The tea party is only 4 years old. You Lie.
Yes, a rebranded republicans with a brand new "party".

Who are you trying to B.S.?

Me or YOURSELF?
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#42 Jun 17, 2013
Bigfoot wrote:
<quoted text>
I do blame people like you who point fingers to the past, that can't do anything to fix the problems today. Let's move forward to fix the future.
Not remembering the past, you are condemned to repeat it.

As teabaggers want to put Reaganomics on steroids.

THAT'S moving "forward".

The same policies that got us into this mess to begin with.

the Jan. 20th 2009 amnesia.

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