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United States

#10359 May 11, 2013
muncher 2 wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you know there is a god? Can you prove it?
Don't fret that fool.

He's a rick santorum - if you don't know the definition you can google it @ urban dictionary.

I gave him a strong dose of his own medicine and he just couldn't handle it. Ever since he's been lookin' kinda peaked, I think he might have blown a gasket.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Dallas, GA

#10360 May 11, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>I can promise you there ain't no yankee blood in me. Wrong on both counts.
If that is so, you would know the proper use of the terms "y'all and all y'all". You would also know the meanings of "bless your heart" when it is used.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#10361 May 11, 2013
Obstructionist politics at a time when America needs it's politicians working for he citizens is pathetic.

Do we really need elected officials in office whose only goal is to prevent anything from happening, while millions still are suffering from the effects of the Bush administration disasters?

I guess the Republicans didn't get the message during the last election - Americans are sick of this $hit.

In the news today:

Republicans are using tough new tactics to disrupt President Obama's second-term agenda and appointments, beginning to step up their fight six months after the party's presidential election defeat.

Minority Republicans in the Senate this week boycotted a committee vote on the president's nominee for EPA administrator, Gina McCarthy. Separately, they delayed another panel vote on the president's pick for Labor secretary, Thomas Perez, for a second time.

The moves were blasted by Democrats as continued obstruction by an obstinate party.

"This is a pattern," Sen. Ben Cardin, D-Md., said. "This is a pattern of blocking President Obama's confirmation votes on his key Cabinet positions."

But they come as Congress approaches yet another election year, with Republicans trying to get back on offense.

In addition to the nomination delays, Republican leaders fired off a letter this week to the president refusing to appoint anyone to an ObamaCare panel meant to hold down Medicare costs.

The Independent Payment Advisory Board, as it is called, has been criticized in the past as a "death panel" -- reflecting concerns that it would be used to deny care to seniors -- though supporters say it would not ration care.

The letter from House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell cited concerns about access to care. "Because the law will give IPAB's 15 unelected, unaccountable individuals the ability to deny seniors access to innovative care, we respectfully decline to recommend appointments," they wrote.

Further, Boehner announced that for the 40th time since it became law, the federal health care law will again be subject to a repeal vote, so the new 2013 class of conservatives can vote to eliminate it too.

"They've been asking for an opportunity to vote on it, and we're going to give it to them," Boehner said.

Obama adamantly defended the health care law, and the protections it providers to consumers, during remarks at the White House on Friday.

Citing last year's election, Obama said: "The law is here to stay."

Republicans are also again positioning for the next increase in the federal debt ceiling and making it clear that spending reductions, as well as tax and entitlement reform, can no longer be ignored.

"The president's going to finally have to start working with us if we're going to get the economy back on track," Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., said.

Though the president hosted Republicans at the White House and has undertaken a so-called charm offensive with the GOP, Democrats on the Hill take Republicans' recent moves as signs that the GOP increasingly considers Obama a lame duck -- and more gridlock looms.

Rep. John Larson, D-Conn., described what lies ahead as "yet another round of obstructionism, another round of hostage-taking and another round of trying to block anything that Obama does."
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#10362 May 11, 2013
40th Time Is the Charm-

Further, Boehner announced that for the 40th time since it became law, the federal health care law will again be subject to a repeal vote, so the new 2013 class of conservatives can vote to eliminate it too.

"They've been asking for an opportunity to vote on it, and we're going to give it to them," Boehner said

Back when they had "ONLY" voted 33 times to repeal PPACU - the cost was at $50,000,000 taxpayer dollars - dollars we working people pull out of our pockets - for Boehner to throw his immature little hissy fits. The price has risen substantially since that 50 MILLION DOLLAR figure was accurate.

This is what Republicans support these days. Wasting our money and stalling forward progress for American citizens.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Dallas, GA

#10363 May 11, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin and Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh and Boehner, and Mitch McConnell and Romney and Ryan and James Inhofe and....well, the list goes on.... have certainly proven your statement to be true. For Republicans at least.
But read that statement you wrote again. You said:
<quoted text>
I say they do. I say voting to subsidize big-oil while denying dinosaurs ever existed (For Republicans: Oil Comes from fossils) does make you unworthy.
This administration votes the same way for big oil. It's the vote that counts, right? At least you get consistent position and votes out of Broun, more so than most all other candidates.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#10364 May 11, 2013
Benghazi:

"ABC News reported that the CIA's first drafts did say the attack appeared to be "spontaneously inspired" by the protests at the embassy in Cairo."

"ABC News reported that the CIA's first drafts did say the attack appeared to be "spontaneously inspired" by the protests at the embassy in Cairo."

"ABC News reported that the CIA's first drafts did say the attack appeared to be "spontaneously inspired" by the protests at the embassy in Cairo."

"ABC News reported that the CIA's first drafts did say the attack appeared to be "spontaneously inspired" by the protests at the embassy in Cairo."
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#10365 May 11, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
<quoted text>
This administration votes the same way for big oil. It's the vote that counts, right? At least you get consistent position and votes out of Broun, more so than most all other candidates.
He is consistent. Consistently idiotic.

Voted against disaster releif. Voted against renewing the Violence Against Women Act, Voted against a bill allowing for reimbursing expenses for our military servicemen. Voted against health care for citizens repeatedly.

Votes for bills in favor of big-defense and big-energy consistently, but against middle-class interests and protect consistently.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Dallas, GA

#10366 May 11, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
He is consistent. Consistently idiotic.
Voted against disaster releif. Voted against renewing the Violence Against Women Act, Voted against a bill allowing for reimbursing expenses for our military servicemen. Voted against health care for citizens repeatedly.
Votes for bills in favor of big-defense and big-energy consistently, but against middle-class interests and protect consistently.
He voted against a whole bunch of other issues (pork) included in those bills.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#10367 May 11, 2013
Benghazi:

"Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., says the revelations mean Clinton "should never hold high office again" -- just in case there was any doubt about 2016 implications."

Just in case anybody thought this might not be a political witch-hunt.

The whole objective is to knock the legs out of their biggest opponent in 2016. Insane Republican Senator Rand Paul makes that quite clear.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Dallas, GA

#10368 May 11, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
Benghazi:
"Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., says the revelations mean Clinton "should never hold high office again" -- just in case there was any doubt about 2016 implications."
Just in case anybody thought this might not be a political witch-hunt.
The whole objective is to knock the legs out of their biggest opponent in 2016. Insane Republican Senator Rand Paul makes that quite clear.
Oh, and the last two general elections were anything different from the democrats?

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#10369 May 11, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
....
In addition to the nomination delays, Republican leaders fired off a letter this week to the president refusing to appoint anyone to an ObamaCare panel meant to hold down Medicare costs.
The Independent Payment Advisory Board, as it is called, has been criticized in the past as a "death panel" -- reflecting concerns that it would be used to deny care to seniors -- though supporters say it would not ration care.
The letter from House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell cited concerns about access to care. "Because the law will give IPAB's 15 unelected, unaccountable individuals the ability to deny seniors access to innovative care, we respectfully decline to recommend appointments," they wrote.
....
Republicans are also again positioning for the next increase in the federal debt ceiling and making it clear that spending reductions, as well as tax and entitlement reform, can no longer be ignored.
"The president's going to finally have to start working with us if we're going to get the economy back on track," Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., said.
....
The IPAB is designed exactly as McConnell cited -"unelected and unaccountable" - and their whole purpose will be to reduce payments to hospitals and medical providers in order to keep Medicare costs down - regardless of the impact on patient care. Obama himself suggested maybe "grandma would be better off taking a pain pill" than having that life saving procedure. There WILL be rationing and anyone who thinks otherwise has their head firmly stuck in the ground. There will also be doctors who will either seriously limit their number of Medicare patients or will quit accepting them all together (as has already happened) because Medicare arbitrarily determines what their reimbursements will be, with no consideration of what ACTUAL costs may be incurred by the hospital or the doctor. That alone will constitute de facto rationing as it will become harder for Medicare patients to find doctors who will accept them as patients.

"spending reductions" and "tax and entitlement reform can no longer be ignored" - agree completely, our economy cannot sustain itself if we don't get spending under control.

I just hope McConnell means it.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#10370 May 11, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
Benghazi:
"ABC News reported that the CIA's first drafts did say the attack appeared to be "spontaneously inspired" by the protests at the embassy in Cairo."
"ABC News reported that the CIA's first drafts did say the attack appeared to be "spontaneously inspired" by the protests at the embassy in Cairo."
"ABC News reported that the CIA's first drafts did say the attack appeared to be "spontaneously inspired" by the protests at the embassy in Cairo."
"ABC News reported that the CIA's first drafts did say the attack appeared to be "spontaneously inspired" by the protests at the embassy in Cairo."
And this explains 12 different versions of the talking points, how????????
guest

United States

#10371 May 11, 2013
Jindal is the one who said-"We have to stop being the party of stupid".
Really?
"FRI MAY 10, 2013 AT 07:30 PM PDT
Louisiana expands vouchers to schools teaching creationism
byLaura Clawson
59 Comments / 59 New
Reposted from Daily Kos Labor by Laura Clawson
attribution: Gage Skidmore
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal
The legality of Louisiana's school privatization-via-vouchers program is still up in the air, but Gov. Bobby Jindal is going right ahead expanding it anyway, with money going to a host of creationist Christian schools. In March, the state Supreme Court heard an appeal to a district court judge's ruling that it's unconstitutional to take money from the public schools to fund private schools; that appeal hasn't yet been decided. Apparently Jindal is taking that uncertainty in the manner of drivers who accelerate when a traffic light turns yellow. In northeastern Lousiana, for instance:
All nine schools participating in northeastern Louisiana were awarded additional seats. New Living Word in Ruston received the most, with an additional 117 scholarships for a total of 214 awarded for the 2013-14 school year.[...]
Family Christian Academy will increase from 43 to 104 while Claiborne Christian Academy will increase from 23 to 32. Northeast Louisiana Baptist School will increase from 19 to 20, Old Bethel Christian Academy from 20 to 25, Our Lady of Fatima from 40 to 59, Prevailing Faith Christian Academy from fewer than 10 to 17, Quest School from fewer than 10 to 12 and St. Frederick High School from 11 to 14.
Let's take a look at a few of those schools, shall we? In a Claiborne Christian Academy newsletter:
[T]he principal promotes young-earth creationist talking points from Answers in Genesis, saying,“Our position at CCS on the age of the Earth and other issues is that any theory that goes against God’s Word is in error.” She also claims that scientists are “sinful men” trying to explain the world “without God” so they don’t have to be “morally accountable to Him.”
New Living Word, meanwhile, "has a top-ranked basketball team but no library. Students spend most of the day watching TVs in bare-bones classrooms. Each lesson consists of an instructional DVD that intersperses Biblical verses with subjects such chemistry or composition." New Living Word is not alone in being a "school" at which instruction comes mainly through DVDs or workbooks rather than from trained teachers.
This is what state education money is going to in Louisiana. Jindal and other proponents of privatization say it's done in the name of choice, but the war on public education—on education itself—is barely disguised if you look beyond the press releases.
(Via Diane Ravitch)
Tue May 07, 2013 at 3:59 PM PT: The Louisiana Supreme Court has ruled six to one that the voucher funding mechanism violates the state constitution. Jindal is saying, though, that he'll fund the vouchers some other way, so public funding for creationist teaching is still happening in Louisiana."
guest

United States

#10373 May 11, 2013
S.C. school at the forefront of "stupid"- goodgodamighty
scroll down for copy of test- http://www.dailykos.com/
FRI MAY 10, 2013 AT 05:00 PM PDT
South Carolina 'creationist' science quiz is real
byHunter
266 Comments / 266 New
This has been floating around for a while, but it looks like Snopes has now confirmed it. It's real. The above is an actual science quiz given to 4th graders at Blue Ridge Christian Academy in South Carolina. Here's page two:
This particular Christian Academy is a tiny school, it's private, it's got Christian right there in the name so you know where they're coming from, and like a good portion of America's much-heralded private schools it apparently exists to give children the shittiest possible education that your limited money can buy, the sort of education that will get them laughed at for the rest of their life. Or something. No, there's nothing in American law that says you can't give your children the silliest possible education—if you want, you can teach them that the sun is a 50-year-old man from Orlando who just got fed up one day, tied balloons to his belt and lit himself on fire. It's not nice, but you're allowed.
The origin of the quiz is interesting. According to Snopes, it's the result of a lesson based on an "educational" video from the (truly loony) Answers in Genesis, the proprietors behind the Creation Museum, a truly glorious Kentucky-based shrine to, well, all that crap you see up there. Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs, the earth is 6,000 years old, radiocarbon dating is an abomination unto the Lord, etc.—oh, and they're building an ark, too. A Kentucky-based, dinosaur-having ark theme park, and that has the potential to be the most awesome display of technology used to rebut technology that you can possibly imagine, if they don't cheap out on us.
As their actual, let's call it educational efforts, Answers in Genesis provides study guides, videos and other materials teaching and/or explaining how to teach all of the aforementioned silly things—the "Were you there?" rebuttal to all of human history before their personal birth is one of their hallmarks, for example, and can be seen on page two of the quiz. So yes, there's really, truly a certain population of the country that teaches it to their children in lieu of actual science. Then those children grow up and are elected to Congress, so you can't say there's not a career path there.
ChicknButt

Decatur, GA

#10374 May 11, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, and the last two general elections were anything different from the democrats?
Using Benghazi for political purposes is nothing short of distasteful and dishonorable.

That's nothing new:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-...
ChicknButt

Decatur, GA

#10375 May 11, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
There will also be doctors who will either seriously limit their number of Medicare patients or will quit accepting them all together (as has already happened) because Medicare arbitrarily determines what their reimbursements will be, with no consideration of what ACTUAL costs may be incurred by the hospital or the doctor.
Well, you use a lot of loose language there in your post. "arbitrarily" - that's not exactly how it works.-ACTUAL COSTS?! It would be nice if those seeking medical treatment COULD pay actual costs rather than wildly inflated costs that have nothing to do with the actual value of services rendered.

As far as doctors getting out of the business because "they aren't making enough" - if SO many physicians are ONLY in it for the money - doesn't that speak for the NEED for a Patient Protection Act? Don't answer. The answer is "YES".
ChicknButt

Decatur, GA

#10376 May 11, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
And this explains 12 different versions of the talking points, how????????
Remind me again on how many times it's legal to revise an outline you're working on? I also forgot - does that law limiting script revisions apply to everybody, or just Obama?
OMTE

Fitzgerald, GA

#10377 May 11, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
<quoted text>
If that is so, you would know the proper use of the terms "y'all and all y'all". You would also know the meanings of "bless your heart" when it is used.
You must a da*mn Yankee when us southerners are taliking to a couple of folks in a crowd. We don't say all ya'll moron. There is no proper way to even use ya'll it's southern slang. Oh yeah and I've used "bless your heart" many times on this forum. You were only coping me. You blue blood a$$ yank. You don't even know how a southerner spells ya'll.
ChicknButt

Decatur, GA

#10378 May 11, 2013
guest wrote:
Jindal is the one who said-"We have to stop being the party of stupid".
Really?
"FRI MAY 10, 2013 AT 07:30 PM PDT
Louisiana expands vouchers to schools teaching creationism
byLaura Clawson
59 Comments / 59 New
Reposted from Daily Kos Labor by Laura Clawson
attribution: Gage Skidmore
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal
The legality of Louisiana's school privatization-via-vouchers program is still up in the air, but Gov. Bobby Jindal is going right ahead expanding it anyway, with money going to a host of creationist Christian schools. In March, the state Supreme Court heard an appeal to a district court judge's ruling that it's unconstitutional to take money from the public schools to fund private schools; that appeal hasn't yet been decided. Apparently Jindal is taking that uncertainty in the manner of drivers who accelerate when a traffic light turns yellow. In northeastern Lousiana, for instance:
All nine schools participating in northeastern Louisiana were awarded additional seats. New Living Word in Ruston received the most, with an additional 117 scholarships for a total of 214 awarded for the 2013-14 school year.[...]
Family Christian Academy will increase from 43 to 104 while Claiborne Christian Academy will increase from 23 to 32. Northeast Louisiana Baptist School will increase from 19 to 20, Old Bethel Christian Academy from 20 to 25, Our Lady of Fatima from 40 to 59, Prevailing Faith Christian Academy from fewer than 10 to 17, Quest School from fewer than 10 to 12 and St. Frederick High School from 11 to 14.
Let's take a look at a few of those schools, shall we? In a Claiborne Christian Academy newsletter:
[T]he principal promotes young-earth creationist talking points from Answers in Genesis, saying,“Our position at CCS on the age of the Earth and other issues is that any theory that goes against God’s Word is in error.” She also claims that scientists are “sinful men” trying to explain the world “without God” so they don’t have to be “morally accountable to Him.”
New Living Word, meanwhile, "has a top-ranked basketball team but no library. Students spend most of the day watching TVs in bare-bones classrooms. Each lesson consists of an instructional DVD that intersperses Biblical verses with subjects such chemistry or composition." New Living Word is not alone in being a "school" at which instruction comes mainly through DVDs or workbooks rather than from trained teachers.
This is what state education money is going to in Louisiana. Jindal and other proponents of privatization say it's done in the name of choice, but the war on public education—on education itself—is barely disguised if you look beyond the press releases.
(Via Diane Ravitch)
Tue May 07, 2013 at 3:59 PM PT: The Louisiana Supreme Court has ruled six to one that the voucher funding mechanism violates the state constitution. Jindal is saying, though, that he'll fund the vouchers some other way, so public funding for creationist teaching is still happening in Louisiana."
It's a statistical reality: The less educates somebody is the more likely they are to vote Republican.

If there's nothing else we've learned: Republicans hate science and education the way Ronnie James Dio hates dragons.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#10379 May 11, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>Using Benghazi for political purposes is nothing short of distasteful and dishonorable.

That's nothing new:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-...
Yep, those Right Wing Wackos are outraged !

outraged I say !

whenever embassies and consulates abroad are attacked.

Yep - We all remember how outraged "Bored" and the RWW Gang were when the following occurred , ams how they demanded Bush be impeached:

- January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

- June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

- October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

- February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

- May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

- July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

- December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

- March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers.(I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

- September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

- January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

- March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

- July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

- September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

Clear and indisputable proof of Bush and the RWW'a incompetence - no wonder "Bored" and the RWW Gang made such a big deal of demanding his impeachment.

Wait ....

Never mind .....

I expected rational thought from RWWs - my bad.

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