Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#7183 Apr 18, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, you liberal socialist commie, here is a GREAT article for you concerning YOUR HERO. You liberal socialist commies are such SUCKERS. Go ahead. Defend that lying hypocrite. He's laughing at YOU.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/...
What's your beef, that Obama makes use of legal deductions. I seem to recall that this is a praise-worthy attribute when others employ it. Perhaps you are upset that Obama continues to be consistent in his advocacy of increasing the taxes on the wealthy even though he is among those who will be paying more.
domino

Taylors, SC

#7184 Apr 18, 2013
maybe wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, we should stop ALL social security checks today and start paying down the national debt. When its paid of and we have built our army back to the cold war days and if lazy old folks on goverment government sponsored welfare still want a check, maybe!
And as usual, you took that quote and twisted it to make someone believe what you "think." Nice try but didnt work.
domino

Taylors, SC

#7185 Apr 18, 2013
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."***** Thomas Jefferson
ChicknButt

Gadsden, AL

#7186 Apr 18, 2013
domino wrote:
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."***** Thomas Jefferson
Back in Jefferson's time when wars were fought with muskets that was a pretty valid argument. Now not so much.

The first time a redneck with a gun-show prize is faced with an A-10 Warthog, you're going to have a redneck with smelly pants.

Think a bit before you type stupid stuff. 200 years ago a dentist might recommend wooden teeth. That's not good advice now either.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#7187 Apr 18, 2013
domino wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."***** Thomas Jefferson
Did Jefferson really say that? Why bogus quotations matter in gun debate
updated 7:49 PM EST, Fri January 11, 2013
By Nicole Saidi, CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/11/opinion/jeffers...

The Founding Fathers are frequently quoted in the gun control debate, but many of those quotations turn out to be fake.

The most popular comment on a recent story about gun control featured a purported quotation from Thomas Jefferson. More than 2,000 votes pushed it to the top.

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty," reads the quotation. "When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

The same quotation has been posted dozens of times in other readers' posts. Some readers worked to debunk it by mentioning Monticello.org , the Thomas Jefferson Foundation's website, which has a section devoted to "spurious" quotations that have been attributed to the third president of the United States. The website lists several variations of the quotation, featured on two pages, and says staff "have not found any evidence that Thomas Jefferson said or wrote" those words....
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Strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms (Quotation)

http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/stro...
Quotation: "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

Variations: None known.

Sources consulted:

Papers of Thomas Jefferson Digital Edition
Thomas Jefferson: Papers and Thomas Jefferson: Biographies collections in Hathi Trust Digital Library
Thomas Jefferson Retirement Papers
Earliest known appearance in print: 1989[1]

Other attributions: None known.

Status: This quotation has not been found in any of the writings of Thomas Jefferson. It is often seen preceded by the sentence, "No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms," which is from Jefferson's draft of the Virginia Constitution.

domino

Atlanta, GA

#7188 Apr 18, 2013
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." ****Thomas Jefferson

Since: Jul 12

Villa Rica, GA

#7189 Apr 18, 2013
Just something for a thought to dwell upon.
The first thing Communist want to do is disarm the people. Why? Because they fear the people as the people will be repressed, murdered , enslaved, and put in prisons. In the last century over 200 million people were killed by the communist governments in the world. Why would they want you to be able to protect yourselves against them? Maybe you do not want any of the above mentioned bad things to happen to you or your family. Communist always lie, telling the poor, uneducated and ignorant masses what a wonderful life they will have under communism. Just look around the world and see just how prosperous and well off communist countries and the people that live in them are. Only the elite communists have money and good healthcare. Only the elite communists are able to live and enjoy a decent life. Even the elite must watch what they say and do or they will be treated just as badly as the common people. Communism has failed again and again and yet as you can read these post we have people in this country pushing for a communist society. Either they have somehow fallen under the stupid spell, or they are a active communist trying to change this country into a communist state. If communism was what they are saying, why is communism such a dreaded and gigantic failure in the communist countries? Why do the people in communist countries want to run to this country? Why are they terrified of their communist governments? The reason is that communism can only thrive by using brute force and threats to make people do what they want them to do.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#7190 Apr 18, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
Just something for a thought to dwell upon.
The first thing Communist want to do is disarm the people. Why? Because they fear the people as the people will be repressed, murdered , enslaved, and put in prisons. In the last century over 200 million people were killed by the communist governments in the world. Why would they want you to be able to protect yourselves against them? Maybe you do not want any of the above mentioned bad things to happen to you or your family. Communist always lie, telling the poor, uneducated and ignorant masses what a wonderful life they will have under communism. Just look around the world and see just how prosperous and well off communist countries and the people that live in them are. Only the elite communists have money and good healthcare. Only the elite communists are able to live and enjoy a decent life. Even the elite must watch what they say and do or they will be treated just as badly as the common people. Communism has failed again and again and yet as you can read these post we have people in this country pushing for a communist society. Either they have somehow fallen under the stupid spell, or they are a active communist trying to change this country into a communist state. If communism was what they are saying, why is communism such a dreaded and gigantic failure in the communist countries? Why do the people in communist countries want to run to this country? Why are they terrified of their communist governments? The reason is that communism can only thrive by using brute force and threats to make people do what they want them to do.
You do realize that your entire premise falls apart because no one is advocating for communism on these pages. Perhaps you can point to some specific posts that call for the disarming of American Citizens. Or maybe calling people you don't agree with communists sounds more "adult" then calling them poo-poo heads.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#7191 Apr 18, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Too funny, too funny.
Let's review the facts that were presented and see if any of them were refuted in your post...
- in the current fiscal year, the IRS plans to devote 18 percent less effort to auditing companies with more than $10 million in assets than it did just two years ago.
- The agency has seen a $1 billion budget cut in the past year
- this comes before the effect of the sequester, which will slash $600 million from its budget this year.
- The IRS also projects that the amount of time available for specialized agents to conduct these audits will drop 14 percent as well, thanks to staffing cuts.
- the amount of staff time devoted to auditing the average Joe has gone up 62 percent since 2011
- it's fallen nearly 30 percent for corporations
- The IRS's workforce today is 23 percent smaller than it was in 1992
- even though the number of returns filed has gone up 27 percent over the same period
- the agency is down 10,000 employees compared to what it had during the 2010 tax season
No where in your post do I see anything resembling references to refute the facts that were published. Instead I see an attack on the messenger who is simply reporting on material provided by others ( http://trac.syr.edu/aboutTRACgeneral.html ). Naturally, your attack on the publication is entirely misguided, which is becoming par for the course.
You really must try harder.
I DID read your last sentence. I don't even have to try. You prove everything the conservatives say, every day. You are simply brainwashed and being make a fool of. Your secret is safe with us.
You get your "facts" from Motherjones. lol

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#7192 Apr 18, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
What's your beef, that Obama makes use of legal deductions. I seem to recall that this is a praise-worthy attribute when others employ it. Perhaps you are upset that Obama continues to be consistent in his advocacy of increasing the taxes on the wealthy even though he is among those who will be paying more.
TOO funny. He is a PERFECT example of what you libs HATE. I do not have ONE PROBLEM with him taking legal deductions. YOU DO. REMEMBER????? This is the funniest thing ever. He is making complete FOOLS of all of you libs. You all have raised complete H*ll about the top 1% NOT paying THEIR FAIR SHARE and guess who is guilty????? YOUR HERO! The individual you all worship. The individual you have hitched your wagon to in order to SAVE the WORLD. The individual who is ALL FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS. He is the very personification of a hypocrite. The fact that you are excusing HIM for doing what the rest of the top 1% does says a lot about your brainwashed mindset. Pathetic and very sad.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#7193 Apr 18, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
I DID read your last sentence. I don't even have to try. You prove everything the conservatives say, every day. You are simply brainwashed and being make a fool of. Your secret is safe with us.
You get your "facts" from Motherjones. lol
How sad that your reading comprehension continues to slip away, such an embarassment when the orignal post clearly states the source of the data. You can't refute the data so you continue to attack the publication making the report. So predictable.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
"According to a new report by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse,"

http://trac.syr.edu/tracirs/newfindings/curre...

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#7194 Apr 18, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for the opportunity to restate my position, perhaps you missed it the first time around which explains your effort to put words in my mouth...
When it's time to restock my cupboard with peanut butter, I much prefer the free market approach of visiting each vendor's facility and evaluating for myself their processing procedures. Business is too over-regulated, and as a True Freedom Loving American I Thank God I can spend all of my time inspecting the farms, processing plants, transportation and storage facilities that provide the items on my weekly grocery list.
An informed consumer is the real invisible hand driving the market.
Course anyone who has looked at the history of America's long experiment with unregulated free markets will know the end result of that stacked deck.
Where has even ONE conservative stated that we need NO government regulations? Where? The difference with libs and conservatives is that the conservatives don't want the government to make us dependent. We don't NEED the government to keep growing. You libs, on the other hand, don't seem to mind, actually support, the government becoming more and more controlling.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#7195 Apr 18, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
What's your beef, that Obama makes use of legal deductions. I seem to recall that this is a praise-worthy attribute when others employ it. Perhaps you are upset that Obama continues to be consistent in his advocacy of increasing the taxes on the wealthy even though he is among those who will be paying more.
Obama won't pay higher taxes. YOU will. lol Your inability to employ common sense continues to rear its ugly head. Your deductive reasoning could use some work, too. Sometimes you feel like a nut....

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#7196 Apr 18, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Did Jefferson really say that? Why bogus quotations matter in gun debate
updated 7:49 PM EST, Fri January 11, 2013
By Nicole Saidi, CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/11/opinion/jeffers...
The Founding Fathers are frequently quoted in the gun control debate, but many of those quotations turn out to be fake.
The most popular comment on a recent story about gun control featured a purported quotation from Thomas Jefferson. More than 2,000 votes pushed it to the top.
"When governments fear the people, there is liberty," reads the quotation. "When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
The same quotation has been posted dozens of times in other readers' posts. Some readers worked to debunk it by mentioning Monticello.org , the Thomas Jefferson Foundation's website, which has a section devoted to "spurious" quotations that have been attributed to the third president of the United States. The website lists several variations of the quotation, featured on two pages, and says staff "have not found any evidence that Thomas Jefferson said or wrote" those words....
==========
Strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms (Quotation)
http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/stro...
Quotation: "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Variations: None known.
Sources consulted:
Papers of Thomas Jefferson Digital Edition
Thomas Jefferson: Papers and Thomas Jefferson: Biographies collections in Hathi Trust Digital Library
Thomas Jefferson Retirement Papers
Earliest known appearance in print: 1989[1]
Other attributions: None known.
Status: This quotation has not been found in any of the writings of Thomas Jefferson. It is often seen preceded by the sentence, "No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms," which is from Jefferson's draft of the Virginia Constitution.
The most important thing is that Obama got his a$$ handed to him yesterday in regard to gun control. He trotted out those grieving parents(politicized them) and STILL lost. He is really MAD. His narcissistic personality took a beating. ALL he cares about is being worshipped. You libs are too gullible to realize it. He was mad about being told NO. Did he fly the parents of those lost in Benghazi on Air Force One, trot them before the cameras and show compassion? NO! Why? Because HE screwed up and he wanted it brushed under the rug. He is pure EVIL.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#7197 Apr 18, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
How sad that your reading comprehension continues to slip away, such an embarassment when the orignal post clearly states the source of the data. You can't refute the data so you continue to attack the publication making the report. So predictable.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
"According to a new report by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse,"
http://trac.syr.edu/tracirs/newfindings/curre...
How sad that you embarrass yourself. When you defended Obama's tax percentage, you blew any cred you MIGHT have had.

Keep on wasting your time. It's amusing.
domino

Ellenwood, GA

#7198 Apr 18, 2013
My Thomas Jefferson quotes are coming directly out of a book 100% approved by the Jefferson Foundarion.

Since: Jul 12

Villa Rica, GA

#7199 Apr 18, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
You do realize that your entire premise falls apart because no one is advocating for communism on these pages. Perhaps you can point to some specific posts that call for the disarming of American Citizens. Or maybe calling people you don't agree with communists sounds more "adult" then calling them poo-poo heads.
Just what planet do you live on? Just because you deny the facts, stick your head in the sand, or are just too stupid to understand what all these people have been posting shows me that you are one or all of the above. Can't you understand what you read or hear? Maybe you can't, but I can. It is a pretty clear case of either you support the communist cause and its ideas or you don't. If you don't know what you are reading, then go to the U.S. Communist Party web site, and you will read all the same trash and some of it is word for word that is being written on this forum.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#7200 Apr 18, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
How sad that your reading comprehension continues to slip away, such an embarassment when the orignal post clearly states the source of the data. You can't refute the data so you continue to attack the publication making the report. So predictable.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
"According to a new report by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse,"
http://trac.syr.edu/tracirs/newfindings/curre...
BTW, it seems you haven't been keeping up with the changes Obamacare is going to enforce. Check back with the IRS in 2014. YOU'LL be REALLY impressed.

Since: Jul 12

Villa Rica, GA

#7201 Apr 18, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
What's your beef, that Obama makes use of legal deductions. I seem to recall that this is a praise-worthy attribute when others employ it. Perhaps you are upset that Obama continues to be consistent in his advocacy of increasing the taxes on the wealthy even though he is among those who will be paying more.
Funny thing is when a Republican, a conservative, or a member of the Tea Party uses legal deductions he is being stingy, greedy, and uncaring and should give a much larger sum of his or her money to the government for wealth redistribution. Obama uses tax deductions and it is the Godly thing to do. I see nothing wrong with anyone taking the legal deductions that they can legally use. You praise Obama for doing it. Yet when it was Romney, it was the wrong unethical thing to do. Any other wealthy person is taken to task for having money and using legal deductions but not Obama.
Take your blinders off!

Since: Jul 12

Villa Rica, GA

#7202 Apr 18, 2013
Since some people might think I am making up things here is a web site for the Communist Party. Read all the B.S. propaganda.
http://www.cpusa.org/faq/

Check this site out if you can stomach it.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/communist-party-us...

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