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ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#3397 Feb 15, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Every Republican president since Ronnie Ray-Gun has added trillions to the national debt.
Ask these Right Wingers finally identify a single Republican president - who offered a balanced budget - or who didn't raise the national debt by trillions and trillions.
Then listen to the silence.
Can anyone seriously question that President Cheney - er - Bush - in eight years nearly destroyed not just America but most, if not all the industrialized world.
Thanks Bush/Cheney for the unfounded tax cuts for the rich;
The destruction of the American economy;
3,000 dead Americans under the WTC;
The destruction of the national banking system;
Three wars we never paid for;
The shredding of the Constitution; and
The creation of the largest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the richest people on Earth.
Yep- we can trust Republicans - their record is so spotless.
Don't forget about the great Katrina response!
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#3398 Feb 15, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, I responded anyway.

You will need to do your own research. I've explained it on Topix more than once, I do not feel the need to do it again. Kinda like addressing tax items, not worth the effort and too many people argue the facts.

I do promise, though, that the rationale will make some sense, as it's a "positive influence" by those that reduced it from prior rates...

Consider this idea: if you were picking fruit in someone's orchard and were told you could keep as much fruit as you wanted (the orchard you're in is limitless) except that you had to pay a 15% fee (of what you picked), would you work harder and longer than if that 15% fee was (say) 40%? You probably will do it anyway to keep 60%, but I'm expecting the effort would be greater if you were to keep 85%...Perhaps you'd invest in some machinery to help you, some additional help, etc....
Another Right Wing economic fairy tale - taxes prevent investment.

Taxes never have, and never will, prevent investment.

Let's consider this:

Daddy left you $800 Million when he left this stressful life.

You can invest that $800 Million and receive $50 Million a year after taxes,
or
you can invest that $800 Million and receive $40 Million a year after taxes,
or
You can invest that $800 Million and receive $30 Million a year after taxes,
or
you can put $800 Million in plastic PVC pipe and bury it in the back yard, and receive $0.

Are you gonna say - no thanks - I don't want $50 Million, or $30 Million, or $30 Million this year in income ?

Are you gonna say - No Sir, I'll pass up $30 Million and take $0 instead.

The investor obviously invests regardless of the tax rate he'll pay on the income.

As Warren Buffer said, the tax rate never, ever, prevents any investor from investing because some income is always better than no income.

There are 8 Billion reasons to believe Warren Buffet knows what he's talking about.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#3399 Feb 15, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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At a doc appt. this afternoon, while in the waiting room, I overheard two well dressed ladies (they may have been sales reps) discussing taxes and the $16.5 TRILLION deficit. One of them brought up an interesting point that I have not researched, but it very well may be true:
The federal government took in more revenue last year than any prior year. Yet, the deficit grew.
IF that's true, how can anyone (particularly Pelosi AND the clueless and uneducated) think we DON'T have a spending problem? There's not enough tax revenue to cover what we have, yet people want more...
According to the Brookings Institute estimate for 2012, those women are correct. When dollars have been adjusted to make them comparable, 2012 will set a record of $2.089 trillion brought in, but will have spent $3.212 trillion. Looking at the last ten years, from 2002-2008, the federal govt spent on average $304 billion more than it brought in, averaging a negative 2.47% of GDP. Since Obama has been in office (2009-2012), the govt has spent on average $1,169 billion more than it has brought in, averaging 9.05% of GDP. And Pelosi says we don't have a spending problem? Her idiocy is truly stunning.
uninformed opinion

Sylacauga, AL

#3400 Feb 15, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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Were they able to extract your head from your butt?
rumor is ur wifey gave him a LONG physical. cough, cough.
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#3401 Feb 15, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>According to the Brookings Institute estimate for 2012, those women are correct. When dollars have been adjusted to make them comparable, 2012 will set a record of $2.089 trillion brought in, but will have spent $3.212 trillion. Looking at the last ten years, from 2002-2008, the federal govt spent on average $304 billion more than it brought in, averaging a negative 2.47% of GDP. Since Obama has been in office (2009-2012), the govt has spent on average $1,169 billion more than it has brought in, averaging 9.05% of GDP. And Pelosi says we don't have a spending problem? Her idiocy is truly stunning.
Agreed that we have a spending problem.

It's called:

- the War Department,
- Iraq,
- Pakistan,
- Afghanistan,
- Corporate welfare, and
- Farm subsidies.

Thanks Goodness the left and the middle and the right can agree on something.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#3402 Feb 15, 2013
In 2002 the US population was 287,000,000. In 2012 it was 313,000,000. A difference of 9.059%. When you add per-capita influences into the equation the argument doesn't flow in the direction you want it to anymore.

Your idiocy is truly stunning. You'll fall for any bit of propaganda floating around. Use your brains people. Don't believe everything you hear.
uninformed opinion

Sylacauga, AL

#3403 Feb 15, 2013
uninformed opinion wrote:
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rumor is ur wifey gave him a LONG physical. cough, cough.
a detailed oral exam 2.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#3404 Feb 15, 2013
uninformed opinion wrote:
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a detailed oral exam 2.
Really? You're quoting yourself so you can double-down on a juvenile barely coherent and completely unfunny and unimaginative insult that only an inbred redneck from Moody Alabama would come up with?

By the way, did you hear about the Alabama Governors mansion burning down?

It almost took out the whole trailer park.
jeb stuart

Savannah, GA

#3405 Feb 15, 2013
it is my very humble opinion that wifes,girlrfiends,and family members should be left out of these discussions.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#3406 Feb 15, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Another Right Wing economic fairy tale - taxes prevent investment.
Taxes never have, and never will, prevent investment.
Let's consider this:
Daddy left you $800 Million when he left this stressful life.
You can invest that $800 Million and receive $50 Million a year after taxes,
or
you can invest that $800 Million and receive $40 Million a year after taxes,
or
You can invest that $800 Million and receive $30 Million a year after taxes,
or
you can put $800 Million in plastic PVC pipe and bury it in the back yard, and receive $0.
Are you gonna say - no thanks - I don't want $50 Million, or $30 Million, or $30 Million this year in income ?
Are you gonna say - No Sir, I'll pass up $30 Million and take $0 instead.
The investor obviously invests regardless of the tax rate he'll pay on the income.
As Warren Buffer said, the tax rate never, ever, prevents any investor from investing because some income is always better than no income.
There are 8 Billion reasons to believe Warren Buffet knows what he's talking about.
Besides your ridiculous example involving more money than your average investor will ever see, what you are completely ignoring is that with "investment" comes "risk". With your average investment - be it in the stock market or lending money to an entrepreneur to start a business or lending money to a friend there is no GUARANTEE that you will get ANY of your money back, much less make a profit. That is one of the main reasons that the capital gains rate is lower than the tax rate on income, it is an acknowledgement of and incentive to engage in the RISK.
uninformed opinion

Sylacauga, AL

#3407 Feb 15, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? You're quoting yourself so you can double-down on a juvenile barely coherent and completely unfunny and unimaginative insult that only an inbred redneck from Moody Alabama would come up with?
By the way, did you hear about the Alabama Governors mansion burning down?
It almost took out the whole trailer park.
where is Moody Alabama?

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#3408 Feb 15, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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Besides your ridiculous example involving more money than your average investor will ever see, what you are completely ignoring is that with "investment" comes "risk". With your average investment - be it in the stock market or lending money to an entrepreneur to start a business or lending money to a friend there is no GUARANTEE that you will get ANY of your money back, much less make a profit. That is one of the main reasons that the capital gains rate is lower than the tax rate on income, it is an acknowledgement of and incentive to engage in the RISK.
+1 well stated

Some people just don't have the experience or knowledge about something, so they use ridiculous examples to try and make a point...

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#3409 Feb 15, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Every Republican president since Ronnie Ray-Gun has added trillions to the national debt.
Ask these Right Wingers finally identify a single Republican president - who offered a balanced budget - or who didn't raise the national debt by trillions and trillions.
Then listen to the silence.
Can anyone seriously question that President Cheney - er - Bush - in eight years nearly destroyed not just America but most, if not all the industrialized world.
Thanks Bush/Cheney for the unfounded tax cuts for the rich;
The destruction of the American economy;
3,000 dead Americans under the WTC;
The destruction of the national banking system;
Three wars we never paid for;
The shredding of the Constitution; and
The creation of the largest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the richest people on Earth.
Yep- we can trust Republicans - their record is so spotless.
Did Bush PROMISE to cut the debt in half? Nope! Did Obama? Yep!(And by the end of his first term.) So.....yer! We can trust Democrats.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#3410 Feb 15, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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Don't forget about the great Katrina response!
Hey! Remember THIS?????

ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#3411 Feb 15, 2013
uninformed opinion wrote:
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where is Moody Alabama?
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/ny2ks/...

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#3412 Feb 15, 2013
uninformed opinion wrote:
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where is Moody Alabama?
If we were playing Jeopardy, the correct "answer" would be:

The location of your ISP (apparently).
jeb stuart

Savannah, GA

#3413 Feb 15, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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Still can't respond to this post, huh? Beginning to think you're resembling the "Other Bill", he/she could only spout off BS and be clueless, too...
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"The last time we had a Republican President he absolutely and utterly destroyed the economy of the United States of America.
Wall Street fell apart, millions and millions of Americans were unemployed and homeless"
So Barney Frank, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, etc. get a free pass? Typical uneducated comment. You know enough to be dangerous.
"Then the Republican Party, right after destroying the country, insulted Americans by putting up the most ridiculous and laughable candidates this country has ever seen. Then they did it again the next election."
+1 Fair points. But, IF you TRULY believe running someone that had no previous experience running anything was a better choice, you're in for quite a debate. BTW, how did that work out for ya?
BTW, McCain was not a good choice, but I don't recall anyone else that would have been acceptable. Romney was not my first choice, nor my second.
"And you REALLY want to complain about the guy who's done a great job getting us back on track?"
LMAO big time. A "great job"? Seriously? Are you paying attention to what's been going on, or are you so anti-Republican that you're missing things (too many to list)? What EXACTLY has he done? Do you know the last time we had a budget? Do you know what the country's debt is and how long it will take to pay down or get to a reasonable level?
"In fact, such a great job that America chose to re-elect him again?"
The takers now outnumber the makers. Santa Claus has shown up early. The clueless outnumber those that understand what's happening. People want to be a socialist country. Around half the country doesn't pay federal income tax. The liberal goal appears to be to have 50.1% of those eligible to vote on welfare.
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You would be fun to watch in court:
Lawyer: Mr. Chickenburger: What time is it?
Chickenburger: Thursday!
Lawyer: No, what time is it?
Chickenburger: Tomatoes!
Makes about as much sense...
they are clueless,again.right on time,bill!
conservative

Jefferson, GA

#3414 Feb 15, 2013
Those of you on here having an intelligent discussion, please continue. All of you arguing about stupid stuff like children, PLEASE, SHUT THE HELL UP!
jeb stuart

Savannah, GA

#3415 Feb 15, 2013
HELP ME OUT,BABY!y,know it is past my bedtime.
jeb stuart

Savannah, GA

#3416 Feb 15, 2013
conservative wrote:
Those of you on here having an intelligent discussion, please continue. All of you arguing about stupid stuff like children, PLEASE, SHUT THE HELL UP!
i assume that you are one of the ones having the intelligent discusssion,so by all means,please carry on as the adult among us.now,where were you?

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