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“I don't exist:youve gone crazy”

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#70
Oct 12, 2008
 
Damn it, i think that nature's too busy having a laugh to get rid of them. And anyway, in our society, there's basically no risk of becoming extinct.

“Religion = Superstition”

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#71
Oct 12, 2008
 
Sakib wrote:
Damn it, i think that nature's too busy having a laugh to get rid of them. And anyway, in our society, there's basically no risk of becoming extinct.
You're right, their too busy becoming irrelevant to become extinct.

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#72
Oct 12, 2008
 
Their irrelevance is what'll kill thwm of, in my opinion. Never underestimate the power of ignorance.

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#73
Oct 12, 2008
 
Also do not underestimate the power that a herd of ignorants can bring to bear, especially if the more clever ones know what torches are.

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#74
Oct 12, 2008
 
Uh-oh, we're in trouble. But then again, how many smart ones are there?

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Oct 12, 2008
 
It's the smart ones that are driving the herd before them. Maybe they think that if there's enough bodies at the bottom of the cliff, that when they land, they'll bounce.

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#76
Oct 13, 2008
 
Ah, Is ee. I still won't call them smart, compared to non-creationists.

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#77
Oct 13, 2008
 
Neither would I, I was comparing them strictly against the rank and file examples of their own (subspecies? degenerate mutation?) kind.
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Oct 13, 2008
 
seeker wrote:
Parroting my teacher, am I? Louisville Slugger, I have tried my utmost to be considerate and nonjudgemental, but it is entirely clear from your last few posts that you possess no genuine scientific education whatsoever.
I would like you to provide with one source -- a book, article, paper, electronic journal, ANYTHING -- in which the fossil record is purported to contradict evolutionary processes (and no, a pseudo-scientific book by a close-minded creationist does not count). Fossil evidence is ubiquitous. Not only does uranium-isotope dating conclusively affirm the Earth's age at 4.5-4.6 billion years, but, as previously stated many transitional forms have been discovered linking classes, orders, and species. For example, regarding whale evolution, the general accumulation of modern "cetacean features" can be traced in such forms as Pakicetus, Ambulocetus, and Rhodocetus. In addition, China's Yixian formation has yielded an abundance of feathered theropods which, along with Archeaoptyrex, further strengthen the link between dinosaurs and members of Class Aves. These are not examples of linear trends, of course, and perhaps that is why you are so obstinately confused. Evolution is not a "straight-line" pattern, with one form directly evolving into the next. Rather, it involves myriad branches and divergences, with evolutionary reversals, independent homoplasy, and entire families fading into extinction. If you don't believe me, explore the genealogy that led to contemporary horses, and you will see my point quite clearly.
There are further errors in your other points, but I will return to them later. For now, dispense with any illusory conceptions of evolution you may possess. Until you can provide GENUINE scientific evidence to refute evolution, do not attempt to criticize one of the most well-backed bastions of biology, an exhaustively-researched theory (again, in the scientific sense) observed and bolstered by some of the greatest minds of all time.
What a clown! In opther words you are saying prove me wrong but only allow my sources! What a socialist! Any opinion (and that is all you have voiced so far---not one shred of evidence!) other than your own is not allowed. Have you ever even hear of the tool known as the scientific method of enquirey?

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Oct 13, 2008
 
"Fossil evidence is ubiquitous. Not only does uranium-isotope dating conclusively affirm the Earth's age at 4.5-4.6 billion years, but, as previously stated many transitional forms have been discovered linking classes, orders, and species. For example, regarding whale evolution, the general accumulation of modern "cetacean features" can be traced in such forms as Pakicetus, Ambulocetus, and Rhodocetus. In addition, China's Yixian formation has yielded an abundance of feathered theropods which, along with Archeaoptyrex, further strengthen the link between dinosaurs and members of Class Aves. These are not examples of linear trends, of course, and perhaps that is why you are so obstinately confused. Evolution is not a "straight-line" pattern, with one form directly evolving into the next. Rather, it involves myriad branches and divergences, with evolutionary reversals, independent homoplasy, and entire families fading into extinction. If you don't believe me, explore the genealogy that led to contemporary horses, and you will see my point quite clearly.
There are further errors in your other points, but I will return to them later. For now, dispense with any illusory conceptions of evolution you may possess. Until you can provide GENUINE scientific evidence to refute evolution, do not attempt to criticize one of the most well-backed bastions of biology, an exhaustively-researched theory (again, in the scientific sense) observed and bolstered by some of the greatest minds of all time."

This is all evidence. You might want to actually read it before you refute it.

Also, it's the scientific method of inquiry, not enquirey.
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Oct 13, 2008
 
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Sorry all, but I am entirely fed up with all you absolutists. There is no reasonable reason why Evolution couldn't have been created by God. For you evolutionists, I respect the fact that you try employ logic in your reasoning.
Fundamentalists, you might want to read the New Testament. There's a guy you might have heard of, Jesus, I think it was, whose primary focus was to fight hypocrisy. Reflect on that for a minute...or 60.
I think, and you all can call me crazy, but both evolution and creationism go hand in hand. If you really stop and think about it. It has always been my theory that "how do we know how long God's seven days were?" His one day could have been 50 million...and there is no way to refute the evidence that there was life here millions of years ago. There is a compromise, why can't everyone agree to disagree instead of flinging insults at each other?
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#81
Oct 13, 2008
 
Oops - meant 50 million years.
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#82
Oct 13, 2008
 
Ok Mental Midgets,

I'll type slow so you will have a better chance of understanding....
First of all, probably because you do not understand, What is a fossil made of?(Please consider this open book; and, you may discuss the question among yourselves in case there are any words in it which you do not understand!)
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Oct 13, 2008
 
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No, they are one of the few organisms on Earth which can't evolve to survive, even in this non-violent world of ours. Their brains can't grow, in ID/creationist language.
Boy I've seen morons but they had brain damage excuses! Even then they know this is not a non-violent world. Sakib where is there anyplace in this world that is non-violent? What stupidity!

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Oct 13, 2008
 
Louisville Slugger wrote:
Ok Mental Midgets,
I'll type slow so you will have a better chance of understanding....
First of all, probably because you do not understand, What is a fossil made of?(Please consider this open book; and, you may discuss the question among yourselves in case there are any words in it which you do not understand!)
Who are you to condescend and patronize a group of people, many of which are dinosaur and paleontological enthusiasts?

Fossils are vestiges of living organisms, both direct and indirect. Most authorities view fossils as being something from pre-Holocene time. Fossils are typically found in sedimentary rock, primarily shale, limestone, and sandstone. Fossils can be found in metamorphic rock, though this is rare.

I could probably write a novel on the subject (I mean that literally), but I realize that you are a busy person, and finding the word "rock" in the dictionary will probably take you several hours, so I summarized it.

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Oct 13, 2008
 
DHM wrote:
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I think, and you all can call me crazy, but both evolution and creationism go hand in hand. If you really stop and think about it. It has always been my theory that "how do we know how long God's seven days were?" His one day could have been 50 million...and there is no way to refute the evidence that there was life here millions of years ago. There is a compromise, why can't everyone agree to disagree instead of flinging insults at each other?
I agree entirely with what you just said. I try not to throw around insults, so I am sorry if it appeared that I was.
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Oct 13, 2008
 
And of course, your summary is wrong proving you are a fraud. Fossils are formed of various hardened silica solutions which displaced their biological forms thus ret5aining the pattern of the original form...I'm sorry let me explain it so you might understand...out in front of your housie there are things people walk on...they are called sidewalks and they are made of...guess! guess! I know you can do it..That's right CONCRETE!
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#87
Oct 13, 2008
 
Not riding one - shooting one from a helicopter and turing it into Brontosaurus steak!
"I hear next month they're opening up a new exhibit showing Palin riding a Brontosaurus."
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Oct 13, 2008
 
Louisville Slugger wrote:
You wouldn't understand. People who only repeat popular secular phases without thinking though them would overdose on even the smallest sip of the waters of life.
I love this response. They don't know what they're
missing and that all they have to do is A.S.K.(ask, seek,
knock, Matthew 7:7). If even one person prays, what
does that mean, he or she is in for a true treat...
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Oct 13, 2008
 
Louisville Slugger wrote:
And of course, your summary is wrong proving you are a fraud. Fossils are formed of various hardened silica solutions which displaced their biological forms thus ret5aining the pattern of the original form...I'm sorry let me explain it so you might understand...out in front of your housie there are things people walk on...they are called sidewalks and they are made of...guess! guess! I know you can do it..That's right CONCRETE!
You speak often of evidence and proof. So please.....Provide your evidence for creationism, or for that matter, that there is a god at all.
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