Deportation of illegal immigrants wit...

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There are 32 comments on the The Jersey Journal story from Sep 6, 2010, titled Deportation of illegal immigrants without criminal records more lik.... In it, The Jersey Journal reports that:

In 1991, Faustino Escamilla snuck across the border from his native Mexico into Brownsville, Texas, eventually making his way to Norristown, Pa.

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Really

United States

#1 Sep 6, 2010
Seems to me all states should ship its' illegals to N. J.
jinksy

Summerville, SC

#3 Sep 6, 2010
They came here illegally. That makes them a criminal.
border guy

Obregon, Mexico

#4 Sep 6, 2010
English and/or fly the flag of Latin American nations), and they do not have "identity papers" (i.e. we deny them a driver's license). Being Hispanic has become the new "Star of David", a mark of being an outsider.

Is it really the "illegal immigrants" that are ruining this country? No. Those responsible for the corruption, debt, outflow of jobs, squandering of economic resources, etc. are those who have always had power in this country - the politicians, the lobbyists, the rich, the corporate oligarchy. But those in power will do everything to stay in power, even if it means blaming those who cannot have been responsible for the destruction of our country.

This includes outright campaigns of disinformation: All of our problems will simply go away if we build a "border fence" and "deport illegals". We should focus all of our resources on this national nightmare. After all, our unemployment is caused by illegals taking our jobs. Crime is caused by illegals (and their gangs) going out of control. Illegals refuse to "play by the rules" and therefore refuse to get a driver's license, car insurance, and constantly drink and drive, slaughtering millions of innocent Americans on the roadways yearly. Our childrens' safety depends on effective deportation of the undesirables!

"Illegal immigrant" is another label we apply in order for those with power to divide us. We love to classify those who, at one point in the past, have had a lapse in judgment, and in trying to make a better life for themselves, have to the best of their ability tried to correct that mistake, through hard work, and usually no inherent fault of their own.

In church, we pride ourselves on redemption and forgiveness, but that is just religious hypocrisy: It does not apply in "real life". We have a country that espouses the equality of all men, though some men were created more equal than others, due to birthright, inherently have the ability to qualify for drivers' licenses, car insurance, bank accounts, mortgages, etc.(privileges in society which have nothing to do with citizenship) but we use them as discriminatory "tools" to separate the outsiders from the true American patriots that "belong" here.
New Mexican

Grand Junction, CO

#5 Sep 6, 2010
Legal immigrants pass background checks, health checks, have sponsors so as not to be a taxpayer burden. We don't even know if illegals are guilty of crimes in their countries or are bringing in disease.

Formerly from NJ now in NM I now have a clue as to the impact of illegals. They are too great a burden to bear. Our schools and jails are overcrowded, underfunded. Our roads filled with drivers with no insurance who can't read road signs.

Our government issues 200,000 visas PER MONTH to legals who do not bring any skills, isn't that enough?
AmberDru

Columbus, OH

#6 Sep 6, 2010
If they are here illegally that's enough.

They should be deported the first time they are discovered.

I wish Columbus had this. Our mayor Michael where's my manhood Coleman is trying his best to coddle illegal aliens.

They don't even deport know illegals suspected of MURDER!

Jaime C. Gallegos, 20, of Stelzer Road, was released from the Franklin County jail Monday night after charges of aggravated murder and tampering with evidence were dropped.
Tatoo R Them

United States

#7 Sep 6, 2010
The Feds would like us all to believe the illegal alien felons come across the border with a tatoo on their foreheads. I've had enough of the B.S. in D.C.!
Ming the merciless

Waterloo, Canada

#8 Sep 6, 2010
jinksy wrote:
They came here illegally. That makes them a criminal.
. Not really, to cross the borders illegally is not a criminal offense, it is really an administrative offense.
Down and Out

Columbus, OH

#9 Sep 7, 2010
Ming - That administrative offense soon enough turns criminal when they jump on the entitlement train and collect untold benefits illegally. Add fraud to the list also.
It becomes criminal when that first dollar is offered and taken.
Ming the merciless

Waterloo, Canada

#10 Sep 7, 2010
Down and Out wrote:
Ming - That administrative offense soon enough turns criminal when they jump on the entitlement train and collect untold benefits illegally. Add fraud to the list also.
It becomes criminal when that first dollar is offered and taken.
. You are just assuming that every illegal immigrants commit fraud automatically, but that is not always the case. Then you can't hold the term criminals to them.
Remember The Alamo

Milwaukee, WI

#11 Sep 7, 2010
Border Guy, You are a HYPOCRITE !

You serve the prince of this world, and have adopted the thesis of Adolf Hitler.

So take your perversion of the Holy Scriptures and GO TO HELL.
Remember The Alamo

Milwaukee, WI

#12 Sep 7, 2010
Ming, An illegal alien has committed a crime the moment they cross the border.

That makes them a CRIMINAL.

That makes you a moron...
Telmark

Chico, CA

#13 Sep 7, 2010
8 U.S.C.§ 1325 : US Code - Section 1325: Improper entry by alien

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection;
misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States
at any time or place other than as designated by immigration
officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration
officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United
States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the
willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first
commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or
imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent
commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or
imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to
enter) the United States at a time or place other than as
designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil
penalty of -
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or
attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of
an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under
this subsection.
Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not
in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be
imposed.
(c) Marriage fraud
Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the
purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be
imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than
$250,000, or both.
(d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise
for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws
shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance
with title 18, or both.
Free is free

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Sep 7, 2010
It only becomes a point of discussion when Dems start thinking about a voting base or Reps start thinking about profit. It's an illegal activity that all but a select few want to see continue. That alone should be enough to call a halt to it.
evil monkey

United States

#15 Sep 7, 2010
Hey Border Vato, the Star of David? Really? That's your analogy? Seriously? That is such a weak argument and it's not even the same.

First of all, dim-wit. The Jews were residents of Germany when the SHTF. They lived there the whole time. It's not like they decided run, jump and swim into Germany and then the Furor said "wait" lets brand all those illegal alien Jews with this Star of David! And that's how the Jews got the Star of David insignia. Is that your story?

No, my Border Vato, that's not it at all. The Illegal Aliens are being Targeted because they Should NOT Be Here AT ALL. PERIOD!!!! END OF STORY!!!!

What makes you idiots think you have some RIGHT to be here in the first place? What the hell? Seriously? I'm tired of all these ILLEGAL ALIENS and their sympathizers thnking they have some RIGHT to be here. No, Illegal Aliens are the Target for the same reason I get speeding tickets. I get speeding tickets because "I" was speeding. I got a ticket because "I" did not follow the law. I was the target for police because "I" broke the law. I know I broke the law and I don't blame others for my infraction. I knew I was speeding. I know the rules. That's a chance I took.

These ILLEGAL ALIENS know they are not welcome here. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY SNEAK IN?????? DUHHH, Because they know its wrong and illegal. Jeez, some of you people are SOOOOOOOOOO frikking stupid it's not even funny.

Well, the gig is up. It's over. The American public has stood up and spoken on the issue. It's all but over for the Illegals and it's it's run it's course. It's time for Mexicans to go back to Mexico. Protest there, Cry out for Mexican rights IN Mexico, not here. We don't want Mexico here.

And it didn't take a smear campaign from Republicans to make the public loathe Illegal Immigrants, they do it to themselves. If your Mexican, you won't see it. But the rest of America does see it. If you are Mexican or from Mexico, you are probably used to the sub-par standard of living common to Mexico and Mexican comunnities. America freaks out when they turn our neighborhoods into yet another run-down, crime and gang infested barrio neighborhood.

And they wonder why we don't want them here....go figure....(jeez)
Down and Out

Columbus, OH

#16 Sep 7, 2010
Ming - OK, I'll go halfway, their may well be a few who are not on the entitlement train and if they are not on that train that is to their credit.
I still must ask this - If they are not on the entitlement train why not come into this nation in a legal and proper manner? I feel it it is not an assumption to say if they arrive on our soil in an illegal manner they only contrive to jump on the entitlement train for whatever benefits they can negotiate.
The word criminal has a dictionary defintion - felonious, illegal, unlawful, actions that are contrary to law. Any offense against public law. Per Funk & Wagnalls
I'll give you 2% of the illegals crossing the border as falling into the catgory of not applying for government funds, I'll take 98% as recipients of the hard earned labor and taxes from law abiding citizens.
I LOVE IKE
#17 Sep 7, 2010
Can the Mexican Government which overtly and covertly supports the violation of the territorial integrity of the United States, justify its actions on the ground that it seeks only to implement the principle of self-determination for all or a portion of the people of Mexico?
We think not.
To contend contrariwise is to adopt the thesis of Adolf Hitler, who contended, in support of the action of the Third Reich in incorporating Austria into Germany, that "It is obvious that an idea embracing the entire German people and arising from its depths cannot be stopped at the frontiers of a country."
I LOVE IKE
#18 Sep 7, 2010
It is only natural for man to strive for a better life, to wish to educate his children while he himself was uneducated, to desire to shelter and clothe them while he himself was naked and scourged by the elements, to strive to spare them from the cruel diseases by which he himself was ravaged. BUT WHEN THESE ENDS ARE REALIZED AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS,AT THE COST OF THEIR DEGRADATION AND POVERTY,THESE DESIRES, which are not intrinsically immoral or pernicious in themselves, MUST BE FRUSTRATED, AND THE MEANS BY WHICH THESE otherwise legitimate ENDS ARE SOUGHT TO BE ATTAINED MUST BE SCORNED AND SHUNNED.
Ming the merciless

Waterloo, Canada

#19 Sep 7, 2010
Down and Out wrote:
Ming - OK, I'll go halfway, their may well be a few who are not on the entitlement train and if they are not on that train that is to their credit.
I still must ask this - If they are not on the entitlement train why not come into this nation in a legal and proper manner? I feel it it is not an assumption to say if they arrive on our soil in an illegal manner they only contrive to jump on the entitlement train for whatever benefits they can negotiate.
The word criminal has a dictionary defintion - felonious, illegal, unlawful, actions that are contrary to law. Any offense against public law. Per Funk & Wagnalls
I'll give you 2% of the illegals crossing the border as falling into the catgory of not applying for government funds, I'll take 98% as recipients of the hard earned labor and taxes from law abiding citizens.
. Again you are just assuming. If you check the California budget
report from 2008 you will see that only 11% of the state welfare recipients (not by them but by their american citizen children) are undocumented. And the state have a whole program dedicated to promote in the hispanic media the funds that are there but the illegals don't use because they fear to get in touch with government officials. Besides I guess you never got a traffic ticket, otherwise using your interpretation you are by not doubt a criminal.
Dee Dee Dee

Lake Hiawatha, NJ

#20 Sep 7, 2010
Ming the merciless wrote:
<quoted text>. Again you are just assuming. If you check the California budget
report from 2008 you will see that only 11% of the state welfare recipients (not by them but by their american citizen children) are undocumented. And the state have a whole program dedicated to promote in the hispanic media the funds that are there but the illegals don't use because they fear to get in touch with government officials. Besides I guess you never got a traffic ticket, otherwise using your interpretation you are by not doubt a criminal.
ONLY 11% of the California’s welfare or about 1 billion, give or take a few hundred million is spend on the children of illegal aliens illegal aliens.
Of course in order for the parents who are illegal aliens to collect this money for their anchor babies they either
A. Do not work.
B. Work under the table and claim they do not work.
C. Work using a stolen I.D. and claim they do not work.
D. Work using false I.D. and claim they do not work.

B, C, and D are all illegal and involve multiple felonies and A quite possibly is illegal since this means the parents are using welfare money intended to be used only for the children to also support themselves. If it is not illegal it certainly is immoral.
As for the comment about a speeding ticket making you as much of a criminal as somebody who sneaks into the country illegally in order to steal and commit multiple frauds it is like comparing apples to tractor trailer trucks.
Glory

Moreno Valley, CA

#21 Sep 7, 2010
If an American commits "just a misdemeaner" they are considered a "criminal" by our court system, but yet an illegal alien can rack up all kinds of "misdemeaners" and not be prosecuted. Enough is enough with this double standard crap. Things are getting real heated in Southern Cal, don't believe everything you read in the media or told by the illegal lovers. The time for an all out war is coming quick so be ready.

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