Minnesota bars beat smoking ban

Minnesota bars beat smoking ban

There are 13 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Mar 6, 2008, titled Minnesota bars beat smoking ban. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The curtained entry to The Rock Nightclub in Maplewood, Minn. is identified as a "stage entrance" on Wed, March 5, 2008.

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Archie Anderson

AOL

#1 Mar 6, 2008
The freedom to Act Act:

This makes a person feel a little more like an equal citizen, Even the majority of non smokers that ARE NOT ANTI SMOKERS are enjoyingthe association with their friends again.
The Commissar of public health and the public funded non profit brown shirt anti smokers need to get another billion of public money from the legislature, regroup, pay the lobbying toll then come to the conclusion, that citizens don't like you much.
Fascist DFLers

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Mar 6, 2008
"Proving anew there's no business like show business, Anderson said her theater-night receipts have averaged $2,000—up from $500 right after the ban kicked in. Similarly, Bauman said revenue at The Rock dropped off 30 percent after the ban took effect, then shot back up to normal once the bar began allowing smoking again.

He and other bar owners said they plan to continue putting on theater nights.

"There's no question we were struggling," he said. "And we are extremely nervous that this is going to go away, and we will be back to the way it was."

They don't care about the bar owners or the employee's who also took a 75% cut in pay. The article also points out they don't care about the law either. They are going to fine them $10,000.00 despite the loophole because DFL'ers are Fascists. So much for the little guy.
Dog

Circle Pines, MN

#3 Mar 6, 2008
The smoking ban is stupid. Let the people decide. I need a cigarette...

Arf arf
Red Ryder

Monroe, LA

#4 Mar 6, 2008
Archie Anderson wrote:
The Commissar of public health and the public funded non profit brown shirt anti smokers need to get another billion of public money from the legislature, regroup, pay the lobbying toll then come to the conclusion, that citizens don't like you much.
The health commissars apparently think they are the judicial branch as well.
22785ABC

Porter, TX

#5 Mar 6, 2008
Any bar that tries to pull that stunt should lose their license AND be fined.
Any dive that goes out of business because of a simple smoking ban wasn't a good establishment anyway.
Bemidji Mike

United States

#6 Mar 6, 2008
It won't be long and the censors will remove the article and comments because it shows that the ban has had a deleterious effect on private businesses. Maybe the bar owners should apply for some of the "Arts" funding that the legislature likes to hand out. Wouldn't that be a hoot if they got it??
Joe Blow

Burnsville, MN

#7 Mar 6, 2008
22785ABC wrote:
Any bar that tries to pull that stunt should lose their license AND be fined.
Any dive that goes out of business because of a simple smoking ban wasn't a good establishment anyway.
It didn't take long for the trolls (or would that be troll) to find this story.
Diane 1

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Mar 6, 2008
Joe Blow wrote:
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It didn't take long for the trolls (or would that be troll) to find this story.
I know! The anti-smoking ban trolls were on it within about a minute, as always. They must have some sort of bell on their computer that rings whenever there's an article that mentions smoking, so they can trot out the same tired victim-mentality posts again.
DryCow

Shelton, CT

#10 Mar 6, 2008
"All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression."
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences of attending to too much liberty than the inconveniences of attending to too small a degree of it."
–Thomas Jefferson
Diane 1

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Mar 6, 2008
Bemidji Mike wrote:
It won't be long and the censors will remove the article and comments because it shows that the ban has had a deleterious effect on private businesses. Maybe the bar owners should apply for some of the "Arts" funding that the legislature likes to hand out. Wouldn't that be a hoot if they got it??
Your paranoia is showing again. There have been multiple articles in recent weeks about the ban, and the comments stay up for days. I guess you'd approve of "arts" funding if it went to bars instead of to theaters, huh? Suddenly that would be worthwhile spending.
Joe Blow

Burnsville, MN

#12 Mar 6, 2008
Diane 1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I know! The anti-smoking ban trolls were on it within about a minute, as always. They must have some sort of bell on their computer that rings whenever there's an article that mentions smoking, so they can trot out the same tired victim-mentality posts again.
And the biggest troll of them all shows up to turn the topic to ****.
Bemidji Mike

United States

#14 Mar 6, 2008
Diane 1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Your paranoia is showing again. There have been multiple articles in recent weeks about the ban, and the comments stay up for days. I guess you'd approve of "arts" funding if it went to bars instead of to theaters, huh? Suddenly that would be worthwhile spending.
I thought I injected a bit of humor there, don't you? You seem rather uptight today. I just proposed that as an idea to make up for lost revenues caused by the Pro-Ban people not doing their part in supporting local establishments. I think it would be funny as hell if they did. Knowing how government works, or doesn't, a well written application just might get approved. That would be absolutely hilarious!!
Archie Anderson

AOL

#15 Mar 6, 2008
Red Ryder:
Exactly...... The $10.000.00 felony was legislated between an administrative law judge and the commissar, It was not a statute passed by elected officials, Circumventing our representative law process has been a way of life for the commissar and her brown shirts since 1996 when administrative law rule change oversight was eliminated by the commissras party in the legislature, Mark Benjamin is right, report them to the state bar association for practicing law without a license, Mankato Mike says he is going to enforce the defacto law with force, Like they say, "be sure and bring a lunch" and a clean change of clothes.

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