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Maplewood bar first in Twin Cities to host smoking 'play'

There are 185 comments on the story from Feb 19, 2008, titled Maplewood bar first in Twin Cities to host smoking 'play'. In it, reports that:

The "Tobacco Troupe," after some rave reviews from small-town bar owners, has decided it's ready for the big time.

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Non-Smoker Pro-Thinker

Saint Paul, MN

#198 Mar 12, 2008
Milton wrote:
I dislike the smoking ban because it smacks of governmental tyranny, but I love it because I can go out not not smell like crap when I come home.
So here's a novel idea, if your a smoker have some common courtesy and go outside and do it where it won't bother anyone.
Hi, I also have a novel idea. If it's soooo important, then non-smokers should open their own bars and restaurants, instead of telling private business owners what people can do in their own buildings. Then the government won't use this as a springboard for alcohol, religion and so forth, and people will have someplace to go whether they smoke or not.
Non-Smoker Pro-Thinker

Saint Paul, MN

#199 Mar 12, 2008
Tony wrote:
I wonder if the legislator that included this ridiculous loophole in the bill is going to step forward? I think we all know the answer...
I, for one, hope they do step forward. A hero deserves to be known!!
Non-Smoker Pro-Thinker

Saint Paul, MN

#200 Mar 12, 2008
johns6797 wrote:
If smokers are such loyal bar customers how and why are all of these bars supposedly hurting for business post-ban? From the tone of most of the posts I have read slamming the smoking ban, logic would tell us that even though they had to step outside to light up, smokers would still patronize their favorite watering hole.
Could it be that smokers are more loyal to their addiction than to their favorite local tavern and the owner of said tavern?
And let's take a moment to look at that local tavern owner. Is not their bar a business? And is it not the responsibility of a business owner, be they a neighborhood entreprenuer or a board of directors, to market said business when the business climate changes or when the clientele is dwindling?
Why don't all of you pro-business, freedom-fighters ever talk about the responsibility of the owners of these businesses to do more than unlock the front door at noon, hang up the 'OPEN' sign, flip it over and lock the door up again at 2:30 by actually trying to market to a new and more numerous clientele? And where is the discussion about the smokers all jumping off the boat at the first sign of trouble? Loyal smoking customers?? I don't think so!
I'm not a big fan of telling people how to run their businesses but I also cannot tell you how much nicer it is to go out to watch a game, have a few drinks and a bite to eat and not feel that feeling down in the lungs and smell that smell in your clothes, on your bedsheets the following morning, etc. Besides that cigarette smoke is a public health hazzard, period.
I'll take my hat off to the folks who pulled this loophole open. That said, all you folks who think this is the end of it had better not break your arms patting yourselves on the back just yet. When the health insurance lobby gets their legs under them and decides that it is time to close this loophole, it will get closed and smoking in public will be more restricted than it was before.
Life is all about choosing your battles carefully. And this is a fight you cannot win ban opponents.
"have a few drinks" Wow. Then hop behind the wheel, eh? Yeah, that's much nicer.
Non-Smoker Pro-Thinker

Saint Paul, MN

#201 Mar 12, 2008
an ex-smoker wrote:
smokers are selfish. they don't care who they kill with their poison. their selfishness is also shown by the fact that they throw their butts on the ground. they pollute without a care in the world, and don't even put out their cigarettes before throwing them out their car windows, willing to start any number of fires for their own selfish laziness. So why expect any better behavior from the in bars?
Heh. That's funny. Just because you were a rude, selfish smoker doesn't mean we all were. I'm an ex-smoker and I didn't do those things. In all fairness, you sound rude anyway, smoker or not.
Non-Smoker Pro-Thinker

Saint Paul, MN

#202 Mar 12, 2008
sorry wrote:
Ten years ago, I might have stood on the other side of this debate, but since I quit smoking, I'm extra sensitive to smell, smoke in my eyes, etc. I can't believe I used to cause that kind of irritation to others. I'm sorry!
You should be sorry. You're apologizing to people who think they're better than you. And a tip: Stop walking through smoke if it irritates you so much.

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