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Maplewood bar first in Twin Cities to host smoking 'play'

There are 185 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Feb 19, 2008, titled Maplewood bar first in Twin Cities to host smoking 'play'. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The "Tobacco Troupe," after some rave reviews from small-town bar owners, has decided it's ready for the big time.

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Shakespeare Was Right

Atlantic Beach, FL

#1 Feb 20, 2008
A power hungry, soulless lawyer manipulating the law for his own celebrity and a bunch of lemming fools who (in spite of all the cancer-causing evidence) are proud of their inhaled ignorance.

This will be short lived.

Over the smoke I smell a special session being called.
Talkette

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Feb 20, 2008
Talk about ignorance....
Why would a special session be called when the legislature is already in session?

I'm not a smoker, but I work in a bar. Waitstaff all over this state are suffering in loss of wages and tips because the Minnesota Legislature and Governor were too chicken to stand up for what they thought was right. If tobacco products are so unhealthy, why didn't they just ban it and make it illegal. Why? Because the state government makes too much money taxing tobacco.

Chickens! I say "Ban the ban!" Bring smoking back to bars and restaurants! If I don't like the smoke, I can find another job. If patrons don't like the smoke, there are no-smoking restaurants.
Joe Blow

Burnsville, MN

#3 Feb 20, 2008
Congratulations to The Rock on a successful performance!

The crack in the "Freedom To Breath Act" is quickly becoming a gaping hole. The people are speaking.

It's time to put this law out to pasture and return to business owners the rights which were taken away and return personal responsibility to their patrons for their own actions.

The MN Clean Air Act of 1975 worked just fine for 32 years. It's time to return to that law which was, for the most part, fair to all.

Until the next time, see you at the theater!!
Milton

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Feb 20, 2008
I dislike the smoking ban because it smacks of governmental tyranny, but I love it because I can go out not not smell like crap when I come home.

So here's a novel idea, if your a smoker have some common courtesy and go outside and do it where it won't bother anyone.
Homer J

Wautoma, WI

#5 Feb 20, 2008
Doh! I am glad someone found a way around the ban. I don't smoke but if people want to smoke let them. When I went to a bar I knew what I was getting into. If you want to make your bar non-smoking go ahead. But don't tell me what I can and cannot do as an adult.
Pete S

Plymouth, MN

#6 Feb 20, 2008
You just have to love American ingenuity.
The Gestapo members who passed this ludicrous legislation claim that tobacco is "bad." If that be the case, then ban it!!!
Mr T

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Feb 20, 2008
it should be up to the business whether or not to allow smokers. SMOKING ISNT ILLEGAL PEOPLE.

People dont need to patronize a smoking restaurant if they dont want to. It's called the freedom to choose.
Dragon Smoking

New York, NY

#8 Feb 20, 2008
Or better yet, you go outside and we will come and get you when we're done smoking! You could read a novel while you wait!
Milton wrote:
I dislike the smoking ban because it smacks of governmental tyranny, but I love it because I can go out not not smell like crap when I come home.
So here's a novel idea, if your a smoker have some common courtesy and go outside and do it where it won't bother anyone.
just me

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Feb 20, 2008
for those of you who are so against smoking in bars, why dont you go to the next smoking production at one of these bars and stand outside in the 10- fresh smoke free air and protest?
stupid fad

Natick, MA

#10 Feb 20, 2008
Its not about taking your right away to smoke...if you want to somke feel free. Just do not smoke in front of me
Light up

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Feb 20, 2008
For all of the non-smokers, and I'll bet you are not in the bar business, why don't you lobby a bill to raise taxes on everything in Minnesota and out law tobacco in this state. When an accross the board tax on all clothing and food effect you how loud will you yell that it's not fair. Try to run a business when someone else is telling you what you can and can't do in your own place.
patrick henry

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Feb 20, 2008
i'm all in favor of it. smoking bans are ant-liberty. i am pro liberty.
Matt

United States

#13 Feb 20, 2008
RESIST!
Tony

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Feb 20, 2008
I wonder if the legislator that included this ridiculous loophole in the bill is going to step forward? I think we all know the answer...
Smoking Bud

Minneapolis, MN

#15 Feb 20, 2008
Let’s put on a play in the capital rotunda!
johns6797

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Feb 20, 2008
If smokers are such loyal bar customers how and why are all of these bars supposedly hurting for business post-ban? From the tone of most of the posts I have read slamming the smoking ban, logic would tell us that even though they had to step outside to light up, smokers would still patronize their favorite watering hole.

Could it be that smokers are more loyal to their addiction than to their favorite local tavern and the owner of said tavern?

And let's take a moment to look at that local tavern owner. Is not their bar a business? And is it not the responsibility of a business owner, be they a neighborhood entreprenuer or a board of directors, to market said business when the business climate changes or when the clientele is dwindling?

Why don't all of you pro-business, freedom-fighters ever talk about the responsibility of the owners of these businesses to do more than unlock the front door at noon, hang up the 'OPEN' sign, flip it over and lock the door up again at 2:30 by actually trying to market to a new and more numerous clientele? And where is the discussion about the smokers all jumping off the boat at the first sign of trouble? Loyal smoking customers?? I don't think so!

I'm not a big fan of telling people how to run their businesses but I also cannot tell you how much nicer it is to go out to watch a game, have a few drinks and a bite to eat and not feel that feeling down in the lungs and smell that smell in your clothes, on your bedsheets the following morning, etc. Besides that cigarette smoke is a public health hazzard, period.

I'll take my hat off to the folks who pulled this loophole open. That said, all you folks who think this is the end of it had better not break your arms patting yourselves on the back just yet. When the health insurance lobby gets their legs under them and decides that it is time to close this loophole, it will get closed and smoking in public will be more restricted than it was before.

Life is all about choosing your battles carefully. And this is a fight you cannot win ban opponents.
an ex-smoker

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Feb 20, 2008
smokers are selfish. they don't care who they kill with their poison. their selfishness is also shown by the fact that they throw their butts on the ground. they pollute without a care in the world, and don't even put out their cigarettes before throwing them out their car windows, willing to start any number of fires for their own selfish laziness. So why expect any better behavior from the in bars?
MMP

Plymouth, MN

#18 Feb 20, 2008
Shakespeare Was Right wrote:
A power hungry, soulless lawyer manipulating the law for his own celebrity and a bunch of lemming fools who (in spite of all the cancer-causing evidence) are proud of their inhaled ignorance.
This will be short lived.
Over the smoke I smell a special session being called.
Just for the record. There is absolutely NO medical evidence that second hand smoke has caused any deaths (not one death certificate indicating second hand smoke contributed to a death)which was the basis for this bogus law / invasion of personal property rights - health risk......
you stink

United States

#19 Feb 20, 2008
Keep your icky bars to yourselves. I'll continue to spend my dollars at establishments that appeal to all of my senses (not just my nose).
sorry

United States

#20 Feb 20, 2008
Ten years ago, I might have stood on the other side of this debate, but since I quit smoking, I'm extra sensitive to smell, smoke in my eyes, etc. I can't believe I used to cause that kind of irritation to others. I'm sorry!

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