Stumbo's bill would target smokers in cars with children

Jan 12, 2011 Full story: Lexington Herald-Leader 189

Smoking in a vehicle where a child under 17 is present would be illegal under a bill filed by House Speaker Greg Stumbo.

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UP IN SMOKE

Winnipeg, Canada

#184 Feb 22, 2013
roffle wrote:
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Oh lookie thar... Winnipeg's not missing it's idiot!
Is that a cigarette in your mouth or your man-wife's peder? I don't see any smoke in his crotch area.
Jerry

Westlake, OH

#185 Feb 24, 2013
Freedom wrote:
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First off, it has never been proven that SHS has killed anyone. To prove me wrong all you have to do is name a few names. That should be easy if it supposedly kills thousands every year... eh?
All your side has are manipulated statistics that completely ignore HUGE counfounders. You are the victim of exaggerated propaganda, just as the global warming fanatics have convinced so many of the gullible. See how that so called "settled science" is working out for those fools these days? Those fanatics have egg all over their faces, and the tobacco cult is really no different.
Did you know the that the vast majority of the so called "studies" that supposedly prove the terrible dangers of SHS never included confounders that are well known today? Tell us, what use are studies that leave out HUGE counfounders that are common to the vast majority of the population? I'll tell you how useful they are...they are nothing but worthless scrap that should be relegated to the dustbin of bad science history.
Am I saying that it is impossible for SHS to kill? No, just that it is highly unlikely and the so called dangers are completely overblown by ridiculous proportions.
Let us see how consistent you are, or if you are selective in your approach to this issue... like most on your side are.
Those who you side with make the preposterous claim that there is "no safe level" of tobacco smoke which flys in the face of known science such as the first rule of toxicology for goodness sake.
This standard is not based on science at all, but is instead the product of a religious ferver that needs to sensationalize to fool the masses. Basically what you have are a bunch of religious nuts who claim science is on their side, when they abuse even the most basics of science itself.
Allow me to easily demonstrate this...
Just what other forms of smoke qualify for the "magical" standard of "no safe level"? Can you name even one? How about the top ten? Can't find any? How on earth is that possible when some forms of smoke can kill in minutes?
Google to your hearts content and all you will find is tobacco smoke listed as such. Weird eh? Not really if you understand where this ridiculous standard came from. It is the statement of fanatics who treat science like a religion.
Now tell us...would you be willing to apply your sides ridiculous standard of "no safe level" to all forms of smoke that contain known carcinogens, or only to those you do not like or find useful?
There really is nothing more annoying than a self righteous moral busybody who abuses science to push an agenda...all while applying a HUGE set of double standards...eh?
This idiot is from Meet Chicken. Home of the dumbest, ugliest, smelliest, most inbred people in the world. Any questions?
Freedom

Evanston, IL

#186 Feb 26, 2013
Jerry wrote:
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This idiot is from Meet Chicken. Home of the dumbest, ugliest, smelliest, most inbred people in the world. Any questions?
I see you completely dodged the point once again, but what else can a fanatic like you do when common sense is not on your side?

Care to try again?

Just what other forms of smoke qualify for the "magical" standard of "no safe level"? Can you name even one? How about the top ten? Can't find any? How on earth is that possible when some forms of smoke can kill in minutes?
TruthBeTold

Farmington, MI

#188 Feb 27, 2013
Freedom wrote:
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I see you completely dodged the point once again, but what else can a fanatic like you do when common sense is not on your side?
Care to try again?
Just what other forms of smoke qualify for the "magical" standard of "no safe level"? Can you name even one? How about the top ten? Can't find any? How on earth is that possible when some forms of smoke can kill in minutes?
Hmmmm its funny you think smoking bans and higher taxes have anything to do with morality or the speed at which it hurts people! Its quite laughable that you are either so simple, or how you simplify the real issue.

Smoking in and around the public and/or children has nothing to do with "morality" or whether someone immediately shows signs of illness...it has a lot to do with common sense and civility, as well as decency and common courtesy, and in the long haul health.

In your mind, you think "if it feels good do it", which in and of itself is not an issue, but your premise is to be able to indulge in activities any time any place, without regard for anyone but yourself.
The problem with this thinking is, when performing an activity that not only affects the user, then considerations for those others must exist. Its called being a civilized society...we no longer live in the days of the prairie or a time where we selfishly can just do whatever we want, whenever we want.

Speaking of yesteryear...in the old days, people were respectful of each other, if someone did something that others did not like, fellow citizens could casually express their issue with it, and the offending party would gladly and apologetically stop...now, if the average person says something to an offender they risk the offender throwing a temper tantrum, acting a fool, or worse getting into a physical confrontation...this is why the laws have been so rapidly changed.

Smokers have hurt themselves in their cause to keep smoking around, by acting so defiant, so confrontational, and so uncivil.
The more unstable the old school hard-core smokers become, the less support they get, the greater the restrictions will be, including higher taxes.

Basically put...smokers advocates like freedumb have screwed over smokers. When people like this loudly and rudely vocalize in favor of smoking while offending non-smokers, it does nothing but hurt their own argument.

Bottom line...the more freedumb talks, the worse smokers will be for it!
TruthBeTold

Farmington, MI

#192 Feb 27, 2013
abc wrote:
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I won't blow smoke in your face if u won't spill your drink on me.or run over my kids while driving drunk.
It seems you focus a good deal on drinking and drugs...your life and upbringing does not reflect that of everyone.

In answer to the drinking around kids comment...drinking and driving, and being a drunk parent are two things that are illegal. Doing drugs is illegal as well...so I am not really sure what it is you are reaching (or grasping) at?

This topic, which you seem to struggle in understanding, is about smoking with kids in the car, if you are drinking with kids in the car or doing illicit drugs...well guess what, that's effed up too!

Bottom line is its your habit, keep it to yourself where it affects no one! Just because you can create a child, does not mean you own them, no matter how assbackwards your upbringing may have been!

This really isn't rocket science...yet so many struggle with it!

Since: Nov 12

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#193 Feb 27, 2013
Smoking should be banned altogether.

J
TruthBeTold

Farmington, MI

#194 Feb 27, 2013
Kymountaingirl1 wrote:
Smoking should be banned altogether.
J
It has in the majority of the states, and let me tell you...its so nice!

Smokers need to go and be outside outside where something like that belongs!

The bans are a huge win all over the country and anywhere they are implemented, the ole smokeys have difficult time accepting this!
They are often referred to as "addicts in denial"!

TbT
sandra wilson ward

Owensboro, KY

#197 Feb 28, 2013
fck all yall non smokers.yall haters need to be shot asap.
TruthBeTold

Farmington, MI

#199 Feb 28, 2013
abc wrote:
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Thank you very much.The damn non smokers should go outside we got just as much rights as they do.And besides we are paying high dollar taxes just to smoke take that away and they will tax something else.
You don't quite understand this do you?

ITS YOUR HABIT...KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!

Again, this is not rocket science!

There is research that shows smokers typically have lower IQ's but come on already!

You have no constitutional "right" to smoke, and the tax you pay is a nuisance tax that smokers must pay because, well they are a nuisance!

Save the whole "the sky is falling" routine, smoking is banned in the majority of the states, and guess what....no crazy out of control mystery taxes have been implemented. Imagine that!

Your habit, keep it to yourself!
TruthBeTold

Farmington, MI

#200 Feb 28, 2013
abc wrote:
<quoted text>Well your big mouth should be banned everywhere.
Oh so you are against freedom of speech but you believe that your smoking is ok?

Interesting!

lmao
TruthBeTold

Farmington, MI

#201 Feb 28, 2013
abc wrote:
<quoted text>Stuck a nerve did I.Well Mister know it all I don't drink and I don't use drugs. So your a closet drunk.I'll blow my smoke and fart on you if I want.
Nearly all degenerates, uneducated, low-life, criminal, drug addict, alcoholic, and scum of society are smokers, so I don't doubt you one bit in your words about you wanting to "fart" on people!

Smoking is a gateway to to drugs and alcohol, so you saying you do neither is not common, rather, its called an anomaly!

Lastly, if you did blow smoke at me or attempt to fart on me, I would take that as a personal attack and defend myself accordingly!
TruthBeTold

Farmington, MI

#202 Feb 28, 2013
sandra wilson ward wrote:
fck all yall non smokers.yall haters need to be shot asap.
This persons post is proof of everything I said above!

Funny how that works out!

Again...Nearly all uneducated, lowlife, scummy, drug addict, alcoholic, waste on society, are smokers!
TruthBeTold

Farmington, MI

#204 Feb 28, 2013
abc wrote:
<quoted text>You wouldn't do nothing punk.All you do is run your big mouth.
And what gives you the right to say just because someone smokes that they do drugs. Are you educated in being an expert on doing drugs.No your an educated smart ass.punks like u are a dime a dozen. So go to bed Sonny before you embarrass yourself.
You really want to go down this road there pappy?

You internet tough guys are all the same...you stand tall behind the keyboard, but take away your anonymity and your cane, and your nothing but a feeble, irrelevant, old fool who thinks you still live in the 50's/60's.

Times have changed pappy, no one cares what you think you are entitled to...smoking is a vile disgusting habit that should not be performed in and around the public OR children!

If you can't understand that, then you are as low rent low IQ as I suspected.

And I can tell you this...you trying to flatulate or blow your vile smoke on someone can be considered an act of aggression, and can legally be met with appropriate action. I would certainly take it how it was meant and deal with it appropriately, you wouldn't be happy! lmao

Last point...you have clearly made a fool of yourself, and you have been schooled by someone likely one third your age...so maybe it is YOU who should go to bed, OR go watch reruns of Matlock or The Golden Girls... because YOU HAVE embarrassed yourself here today.

Next!
UP IN SMOKE

Winnipeg, Canada

#206 Feb 28, 2013
TruthBeTold wrote:
<quoted text>You really want to go down this road there pappy?
You internet tough guys are all the same...you stand tall behind the keyboard, but take away your anonymity and your cane, and your nothing but a feeble, irrelevant, old fool who thinks you still live in the 50's/60's.
Times have changed pappy, no one cares what you think you are entitled to...smoking is a vile disgusting habit that should not be performed in and around the public OR children!
If you can't understand that, then you are as low rent low IQ as I suspected.
And I can tell you this...you trying to flatulate or blow your vile smoke on someone can be considered an act of aggression, and can legally be met with appropriate action. I would certainly take it how it was meant and deal with it appropriately, you wouldn't be happy! lmao
Last point...you have clearly made a fool of yourself, and you have been schooled by someone likely one third your age...so maybe it is YOU who should go to bed, OR go watch reruns of Matlock or The Golden Girls... because YOU HAVE embarrassed yourself here today.
Next!
Careful he may be a wannabe MMA fighter. Goes by the name big bad stinkola.
TruthBeTold

Farmington, MI

#207 Feb 28, 2013
UP IN SMOKE wrote:
<quoted text> Careful he may be a wannabe MMA fighter. Goes by the name big bad stinkola.
lol

Likely feather weight or possibly diaper weight! haha
RegardingYourSpe wage

Mount Airy, MD

#208 Feb 28, 2013
TruthBeTold wrote:
<quoted text>You don't quite understand this do you?
ITS YOUR HABIT...KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!
Again, this is not rocket science!
There is research that shows smokers typically have lower IQ's but come on already!
You have no constitutional "right" to smoke, and the tax you pay is a nuisance tax that smokers must pay because, well they are a nuisance!
Save the whole "the sky is falling" routine, smoking is banned in the majority of the states, and guess what....no crazy out of control mystery taxes have been implemented. Imagine that!
Your habit, keep it to yourself!
ITS YOUR HABIT...KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!
TruthBeTold

Farmington, MI

#221 Mar 2, 2013
abc wrote:
<quoted text>Truth be told your chicken shit.I smoke cigarettes you smoke dicks.fag punk sissy boy.
Well, thanks for proving my point about smokers!

What this post of yours tells me is that, your 6th grade education really limits your ability to communicate, comprehend and articulate.
I am quite sure this reflects and reaches throughout your entire life and world.

You also represent the stereotypical angry, low rent, in your face, rude, lude, bigoted, racist bobo's people snicker at as they see your kind huddling outside in the elements to get their puff puff on! lol

You kill your sides ability to move forward, and people like you make the bans easy to implement and take hold!

For that, I thank you.

NEXT!
TruthBeTold

Farmington, MI

#222 Mar 2, 2013
abc wrote:
<quoted text>I bet her vagina looks like the opening in mamouth cave. Moo moo
You really are a low class inbred, aren't you?
By the way...that's a rhetorical question.
oldman75

Huntingtown, MD

#224 Mar 2, 2013
Are smokers in the car with children the same as lucy in the sky with diamonds ? sounds lke it .
TruthBeTold

Farmington, MI

#225 Mar 3, 2013
abc wrote:
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Truth be told your a wimp.And your not even smart enough to be bred. Move along punk boy.
You little dumb fart.
Good comeback ole smoky (cough, cough, coughcough, yack) lmao

You keep proving my point about you never quite making past the 6th grade!

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