Atheism Rising

Dec 5, 2012 Full story: Houston Press 770

It's a warm fall morning near the Texas State Capitol's south steps, and there's a fight brewing.

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“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#1 Dec 5, 2012
"Atheists aren't the problem here ... For one thing, we'd never force impressionable minors to recite a daily mantra that there is no God, because we're not the ones imposing our views onto other people's children. It's not the atheists impeding medical research, either. Neither are we the ones who are against free or affordable health care, nor are we the ones trying to minimize or criminalize women's health care." ... "I've been to the European continent, and I've been to the Australian continent and I can tell you from experience that overseas, the academics don't remember the Alamo. They don't talk about NASA. They're laughing at our lamentable politics." ~ Aron Ra

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#2 Dec 5, 2012
Very well said.
Hedonist wrote:
"Atheists aren't the problem here ... For one thing, we'd never force impressionable minors to recite a daily mantra that there is no God, because we're not the ones imposing our views onto other people's children. It's not the atheists impeding medical research, either. Neither are we the ones who are against free or affordable health care, nor are we the ones trying to minimize or criminalize women's health care." ... "I've been to the European continent, and I've been to the Australian continent and I can tell you from experience that overseas, the academics don't remember the Alamo. They don't talk about NASA. They're laughing at our lamentable politics." ~ Aron Ra

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#3 Dec 8, 2012
AronRa quote! You certainly are awesome.

Since: Aug 12

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#4 Dec 12, 2012
Christians could be in a minority in England and Wales by 2018, according to analysis of the latest census results which have revealed a fall of more than 4 million in the number of people who describe themselves as adhering to the faith.

The decline in Christianity came amid a wider fall in the number of people professing belief in any religion, although that trend was partially offset by an increase of 1.6m in the number of Muslims.

Secularists said the trend away from Christianity was a warning to church authorities that their conservative attitudes were not playing well with the public.

The Office of National Statistics revealed the decline at the same time as the Church of England's house of bishops met to discuss the crisis over the synod's decision last month to reject the ordination of female bishops. It also came as the government responded to religious opposition to same-sex marriage by announcing proposed legislation explicitly stating that it will be illegal for the Church of England and the Church in Wales to marry same-sex couples, and that canon law, which bans same-sex weddings, will continue to apply.

Since: Aug 12

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#5 Dec 12, 2012
Atheists are more intelligent than religious people
Writing in the Freethinker (July 2008) Chris Barker argues that there is nothing racist about suggesting that atheists are more intelligent than believers.

IT was bound to happen. When Professor Richard Lynn claimed last month that people with higher IQs were less likely to believe in God many of those outraged by his assertion quickly tried to give his words a racist cast.

Professor Lynn, Emeritus Professor of Psychology at Ulster University, said many more members of the “intellectual elite” considered themselves atheists than the national average. A decline in religious observance over the last century was directly linked to a rise in average intelligence, he claimed.

Professor Lynn, who has provoked controversy in the past with research linking intelligence to race and sex, said university academics were less likely to believe in God than almost anyone else.

A survey of Royal Society fellows found that only 3.3 per cent believed in God – at a time when 68.5 percent of the general UK population described themselves as believers. A separate poll in the 90s found only seven percent of members of the American National Academy of Sciences believed in God.

Professor Lynn said most primary school children believed in God, but as they entered adolescence – and their intelligence increased – many started to have doubts.

He told The Times Higher Education magazine:

Why should fewer academics believe in God than the general population? I believe it is simply a matter of the IQ. Academics have higher IQs than the general population.

Several Gallup poll studies of the general population have shown that those with higher IQs tend not to believe in God.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#6 Dec 12, 2012
christianity could already be below 50%. I think if the religion question on the Census began with, "Do you have a religion yes/no" before asking, "If so, which one?" we'd have seen a larger "no religious affiliation" percentage than 25%.
swerty wrote:
Christians could be in a minority in England and Wales by 2018, according to analysis of the latest census results which have revealed a fall of more than 4 million in the number of people who describe themselves as adhering to the faith.
The decline in Christianity came amid a wider fall in the number of people professing belief in any religion, although that trend was partially offset by an increase of 1.6m in the number of Muslims.
Secularists said the trend away from Christianity was a warning to church authorities that their conservative attitudes were not playing well with the public.
The Office of National Statistics revealed the decline at the same time as the Church of England's house of bishops met to discuss the crisis over the synod's decision last month to reject the ordination of female bishops. It also came as the government responded to religious opposition to same-sex marriage by announcing proposed legislation explicitly stating that it will be illegal for the Church of England and the Church in Wales to marry same-sex couples, and that canon law, which bans same-sex weddings, will continue to apply.
Atheist14

Norman Park, GA

#7 Dec 14, 2012
Hooray for this!:)
Jordan Rivers

Dallas, TX

#8 Dec 14, 2012
Many people are afraid to admit that they question the reality of God because of the possible blacklash so they just keep quiet.
atheist14

Norman Park, GA

#9 Dec 15, 2012
Jordan Rivers wrote:
Many people are afraid to admit that they question the reality of God because of the possible blacklash so they just keep quiet.
I agree completely. I know I keep quiet in certain situations and keep my atheism to myself.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#10 Dec 15, 2012
swerty wrote:
Atheists are more intelligent than religious people
Writing in the Freethinker (July 2008) Chris Barker argues that there is nothing racist about suggesting that atheists are more intelligent than believers.
IT was bound to happen. When Professor Richard Lynn claimed last month that people with higher IQs were less likely to believe in God many of those outraged by his assertion quickly tried to give his words a racist cast.
Professor Lynn, Emeritus Professor of Psychology at Ulster University, said many more members of the “intellectual elite” considered themselves atheists than the national average. A decline in religious observance over the last century was directly linked to a rise in average intelligence, he claimed.
Professor Lynn, who has provoked controversy in the past with research linking intelligence to race and sex, said university academics were less likely to believe in God than almost anyone else.
A survey of Royal Society fellows found that only 3.3 per cent believed in God – at a time when 68.5 percent of the general UK population described themselves as believers. A separate poll in the 90s found only seven percent of members of the American National Academy of Sciences believed in God.
Professor Lynn said most primary school children believed in God, but as they entered adolescence – and their intelligence increased – many started to have doubts.
He told The Times Higher Education magazine:
Why should fewer academics believe in God than the general population? I believe it is simply a matter of the IQ. Academics have higher IQs than the general population.
Several Gallup poll studies of the general population have shown that those with higher IQs tend not to believe in God.
it's totally accurate. If you're an idiot you deny fossils and never test your own assumptions. That's how you get humans to believe that water can turn into wine.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#11 Dec 15, 2012
and if you believe that, you'll believe anything.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#12 Dec 15, 2012
I had to give evidence against the IRS in the San Francisco tax court a few years ago. I don't believe in god but I swore on the bible so that people would take my testimony seriously.
atheist14 wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree completely. I know I keep quiet in certain situations and keep my atheism to myself.
anon

Norman Park, GA

#13 Dec 15, 2012
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>I had to give evidence against the IRS in the San Francisco tax court a few years ago. I don't believe in god but I swore on the bible so that people would take my testimony seriously.
I think there is an option to affirm as opposed to swear on a bible. What difference does it make really? None other than appeasing the desires of small minds.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#14 Dec 16, 2012
The Bible is not the "word of God," but stolen from pagan sources. Its Eden, Adam and Eve were taken from the Babylonian accounts; its Flood and Deluge is but an epitome of some four hundred flood accounts; its Ark and Ararat have their equivalents in a score of Deluge myths; even the names of Noah's sons are copies, so also Isaac's sacrifice, Solomon's judgment, and Samson's pillar acts; its Moses is fashioned after the Syrian Mises; its laws after Hammurabi's code. Its Messiah is derived from the Egyptian Mahdi, Savior, certain verses are verbatim copies of Egyptian scriptures. Between Jesus and the Egyptian Horus, Gerald Massy found 137 similarities, and those between Christ and Krishna run into the hundreds. How then can the Bible be a revelation to the Jews?"

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#15 Dec 16, 2012
Yes indeed which is why thou shalt not commit plagiarism, isn't a hell worthy sin.

:)
swerty wrote:
The Bible is not the "word of God," but stolen from pagan sources. Its Eden, Adam and Eve were taken from the Babylonian accounts; its Flood and Deluge is but an epitome of some four hundred flood accounts; its Ark and Ararat have their equivalents in a score of Deluge myths; even the names of Noah's sons are copies, so also Isaac's sacrifice, Solomon's judgment, and Samson's pillar acts; its Moses is fashioned after the Syrian Mises; its laws after Hammurabi's code. Its Messiah is derived from the Egyptian Mahdi, Savior, certain verses are verbatim copies of Egyptian scriptures. Between Jesus and the Egyptian Horus, Gerald Massy found 137 similarities, and those between Christ and Krishna run into the hundreds. How then can the Bible be a revelation to the Jews?"
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#16 Dec 16, 2012
As I said, I swore on a bible I don't believe in because I'd flown 120 degrees West for a reason.

I was not actively offered any option so I didn't take it.
anon wrote:
<quoted text>
I think there is an option to affirm as opposed to swear on a bible. What difference does it make really? None other than appeasing the desires of small minds.
Neuro Revolution

Ashburn, VA

#17 Jan 14, 2013
As science and technology surge onwards, religion gets left behind. Good riddance. Religious belief and ignorance go hand in hand. Science cures such ignorance and propels us forward into a world of enlightenment...
anon

Sugar Land, TX

#18 Jan 18, 2013
Neuro Revolution wrote:
As science and technology surge onwards, religion gets left behind. Good riddance. Religious belief and ignorance go hand in hand. Science cures such ignorance and propels us forward into a world of enlightenment...
Agreed.

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#19 Jan 21, 2013
Fools will be fools.

Psalm 14:1

www.roysecitycoc.org

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#20 Jan 21, 2013
Yes and believing in a god that is demonstrated to merely be a figment of the imagination is being a fool.
HEATH - 72 wrote:
Fools will be fools.
Psalm 14:1
www.roysecitycoc.org

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