Since: Nov 11

Toronto, Canada

#856 Jan 24, 2013
Blue Location wrote:
I believe they found that text that he sent her about that underage girl he was bangin.
Didn't it go something like .....if you tell mom about that girl you will get what is coming to you. Then the reply text said something like.... you make me sick you can go to jail for that.
But who would know that except the perp and why would they call LE to tell them where to find it unless it was to point a finger at Clint and divert the investigation which leads me to conclude that Clint is innocent which I've basically thought all along.

Since: Jul 08

Lexington, Va.

#857 Jan 24, 2013
nothing new wrote:
<quoted text>I think the answer to your questions could possibly be related to what was found on the phone. After all, the phone was retrieved after a tip came in from Jackson, according to Sheriff Roy, right? Searches stopped after finding the phone. Your questions are valid, perhaps the answer could be they hoped that Holly would be kept alive rather than killed, and maybe her phone gave them an indication of something.

I know I've been told where it last pinged and where it was tracked to before the SIM was removed, and it certainly wasn't where it was located.

Maybe they are hoping and praying to retrieve her alive, and maybe they don't need the perp knowing they are on to him/her/them.

There's a whole hell of a lot of info that I've heard locally that has never made it to topix. I have a question about the phone call made to sheriff's dept. If it came from a burner phone, they still have to be activated, and the number assigned to the user. I've bought them myself when I worked in different cities. I normally have to call and get it activated with a credit card, or you can buy minutes in the store. Either way, it seems there would be a way to track down the store the phone was purchased in, and possibly view surveillance videos. I don't know, it just seems unlikely that the burner phone can't be tracked down somehow with today's technology. Whoever made that phone call was involved in the abduction.
Also, they wanted LE to find the phone.

Why would they not just throw it in the river or something?

They put it where it could be found, and then called and told them where to look for it.
Why?
Something important was found on that phone, IMO, and not once have I heard anyone indicate what it was.

If I could ask one question and have it answered by LE, it would be about this info (pics, video, message?) that was retrieved from the phone.
"nothing new", Good post, keep thinking!
nothing new

Jackson, TN

#858 Jan 24, 2013
mytakeonit ontario wrote:
<quoted text>
But who would know that except the perp and why would they call LE to tell them where to find it unless it was to point a finger at Clint and divert the investigation which leads me to conclude that Clint is innocent which I've basically thought all along.
Something was told to me about the texts between Holly & Clint, and I am not certain that I have this correct, but if I remember right, the info regarding the texts between H & C came from Drew. If I am right, he was with H when she received the text. This info is not the info that I was referring to that could be on Holly's phone. She had a smart phone, and videos or pics could have been taken after she was abducted. Or, perhaps a message was sent to LE or family via the phone from the abductor(s). I don't think that the situation with C and the underage girl has any bearing on the case. I could be wrong, but I really don't think so.
nothing new

Jackson, TN

#859 Jan 24, 2013
Blue Location wrote:
I believe they found that text that he sent her about that underage girl he was bangin.
Didn't it go something like .....if you tell mom about that girl you will get what is coming to you. Then the reply text said something like.... you make me sick you can go to jail for that.
The story i heard didn't contain a threat, and I also was told mom already knew, so Holly didn't have to snitch him out.

Since: Nov 12

Huron, OH

#860 Jan 25, 2013
Is it possible Holly had two phones...??
As many conflicting stories of where her phone was found... maybe she had two....??
Maybe someone else had two phones too.. and neglected to tell the LE about it... Until they found Hollys burner (disposable) phone on Easter..!! It seemed to make everyones day...:)
nothing new

Jackson, TN

#861 Jan 25, 2013
Erika-- wrote:
Is it possible Holly had two phones...??
As many conflicting stories of where her phone was found... maybe she had two....??
Maybe someone else had two phones too.. and neglected to tell the LE about it... Until they found Hollys burner (disposable) phone on Easter..!! It seemed to make everyones day...:)
I've only heard one story of where the phone was found, and I've never heard anything about a second phone. What were the conflicting stories? It seems every time some truth is told, there is another fabricated story to counteract it. It's all part of the diversion tactics, IMO. The phone was found in front of Tri City Concrete, and its location was called into the sheriff's dept via a burner phone with a jackson number. The SIM was found in a housing project by a girl. The phone of holly's was described early on, and it was a smart phone, not a burner phone. I forget the exact type of phone it was. From what I have been told, the phone stopped pinging near one of the 3 A's trailer, which is along the way towards the airport. Also, the area where the phone was located (due to the tip) had already been searched. I can't swear that all of this info above is absolutely accurate, but I can swear that the info came to me from sources that know what they are talking about. I don't feel they would have reason to lie about any of it.

Since: Nov 11

Toronto, Canada

#862 Jan 25, 2013
Ok thanks NN - that is very interesting for sure. Have you heard anything about new info coming out?
nothing new

Jackson, TN

#863 Jan 25, 2013
mytakeonit ontario wrote:
Ok thanks NN - that is very interesting for sure. Have you heard anything about new info coming out?
I've known some things for quite some time that haven't come out, and I won't be the one leaking them. Some time back I had the opportunity to speak with 3 or 4 different people that actually know things and to tell you the truth, most of the stuff that has circulated out on topix is false or unrelated. The real stuff has been kept quiet because of all the craziness surrounding Holly's case. If you notice, every single time the real stuff comes out, the crazy trolls begin their diversion tactics. Also, if you think about it, it really isn't smart to let them know how much truth is really known. There's a reason for the diversions, IMO. So, to answer your question, there's nothing new that I can share. I can say that all of the info that I have collected has been passed along to the right places. I won't be breaking the trust of the very few people that are in this thing for the right reasons by leaking the things they share with me. For the record, they are as stumped as the rest of us, but the theory regarding NB, FL, the airport and the strip club has been and is being looked into. After seeing the things that I found myself, I don't envy the job of LE. This could end up being a very tangled web of deception, lies, and evil in the flesh. If the perp/perp(s) are online (and I think they are and have been since the beginning) then they certainly don't need to be fed info about the case. I know this post might make some wanna bitch slap me, because its the whole I know stuff I can't talk about routine, but I don't want to be the one that tips off someone in any fashion.

Since: Nov 11

Toronto, Canada

#864 Jan 28, 2013
Good thinking - interesting though. Stay the course my dear and stay safe.

Since: Nov 12

Huron, OH

#865 Jan 29, 2013
So her Sim card was found in a housing project...??
Was it found in Jackson..?? and thats why they called it a tip from Jackson... Maybe LE plugged it in an it gave a GPS of Eaton...??
I remember a poster saying that they literally stumbled upon it... I always thought it was found near the school...!!
nothing new

Versailles, IN

#866 Jan 31, 2013
Erika-- wrote:
So her Sim card was found in a housing project...??
Was it found in Jackson..?? and thats why they called it a tip from Jackson... Maybe LE plugged it in an it gave a GPS of Eaton...??
I remember a poster saying that they literally stumbled upon it... I always thought it was found near the school...!!
Housing project was in Parsons.

Since: Jul 08

Lexington, Va.

#867 Feb 1, 2013
[QUOTE who="nothing new",
I've known some things for quite some time that haven't come out, and I won't be the one leaking them.

Some time back I had the opportunity to speak with 3 or 4 different people that actually know things and to tell you the truth, most of the stuff that has circulated out on topix is false or unrelated.

The real stuff has been kept quiet because of all the craziness surrounding Holly's case.

If you notice, every single time the real stuff comes out, the crazy trolls begin their diversion tactics.

Also, if you think about it, it really isn't smart to let them know how much truth is really known.

There's a reason for the diversions, IMO.

So, to answer your question, there's nothing new that I can share.
I can say that all of the info that I have collected has been passed along to the right places.

I won't be breaking the trust of the very few people that are in this thing for the right reasons by leaking the things they share with me.
For the record, they are as stumped as the rest of us, but the theory regarding NB, FL, the airport and the strip club has been and is being looked into.

After seeing the things that I found myself, I don't envy the job of LE.
This could end up being a very tangled web of deception, lies, and evil in the flesh.

If the perp/perp(s) are online (and I think they are and have been since the beginning) then they certainly don't need to be fed info about the case.

I know this post might make some wanna bitch slap me, because its the whole I know stuff I can't talk about routine,

but I don't want to be the one that tips off someone in any fashion....[/QUOTE]

Nothing New, I suspect we won't be too surprised if it turns out to be a tangled web of deception, and lies, as you say.

Can you say Yes or No to H. being alive?

After 2 yrs. how many investigators are on this case?

You say 'THEY' are stumped, who is 'they'? LE ? explain?
nothing new

Jackson, TN

#868 Feb 1, 2013
I can not say yes or no to Holly being alive. I have my own opinion, but I don't think that anyone besides the perp(s) would know the answer to that question. I believe the only hope of her being alive is if she is being held in sex slavery. I don't know how many investigators are working the case, I've never asked. When I say "they" I am speaking of the people I have spoken to as a whole. I will put it to you like this. I am local, I know people, I've talked to many people about this case, some close to the family, some are family, some close to LE, some are LE. From what I have been told, collectively from many sources, THEY are stumped. They family has never stopped searching, never stopped trying to find answers, and I don't believe they ever will stop. To me, it is obvious that they are doing everything they can to find their daughter/sister. The family doesn't know what happened to their daughter, IMO, and LE doesn't know either, IMO. Even if they have a suspect in mind, without finding Holly, there is little hope of an arrest. Even in much less complex cases as this, it isn't what you know, but what you can prove. Without recovering Holly, there is very little that can be proven, IMO, unless the perp(s) slip up somehow. I've been told from several different sources that there is no way she is in witness protection or whatever. I've also been told that there has been a ton of money spent on the investigation that would not have been spent if they knew she was alive and well. IMO, that theory doesn't hold water. From what I hear, the costs have exceeded 6 digits now. I can't confirm that, but that is what I have been told.

Since: Jul 11

Mauldin, SC

#869 Feb 1, 2013
nothing new wrote:
<quoted text>I've known some things for quite some time that haven't come out, and I won't be the one leaking them. Some time back I had the opportunity to speak with 3 or 4 different people that actually know things and to tell you the truth, most of the stuff that has circulated out on topix is false or unrelated. The real stuff has been kept quiet because of all the craziness surrounding Holly's case. If you notice, every single time the real stuff comes out, the crazy trolls begin their diversion tactics. Also, if you think about it, it really isn't smart to let them know how much truth is really known. There's a reason for the diversions, IMO. So, to answer your question, there's nothing new that I can share. I can say that all of the info that I have collected has been passed along to the right places. I won't be breaking the trust of the very few people that are in this thing for the right reasons by leaking the things they share with me. For the record, they are as stumped as the rest of us, but the theory regarding NB, FL, the airport and the strip club has been and is being looked into. After seeing the things that I found myself, I don't envy the job of LE. This could end up being a very tangled web of deception, lies, and evil in the flesh. If the perp/perp(s) are online (and I think they are and have been since the beginning) then they certainly don't need to be fed info about the case. I know this post might make some wanna bitch slap me, because its the whole I know stuff I can't talk about routine, but I don't want to be the one that tips off someone in any fashion.
Some of what you have said could explain Meher saying her name, rather than Holly's on the 14th.
Lies Within

United States

#870 Feb 1, 2013
Abort Abort Abort

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#871 Feb 1, 2013
We apparently have a troll using my moniker on this thread!

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#872 Feb 1, 2013
yeah and i think i know who it is.

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#873 Feb 1, 2013
they are using your moniker on the other thread too

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#874 Feb 2, 2013
Lies Within wrote:
Abort Abort Abort
Lies Within
United States
unregistered

why the games, troll?

Since: May 11

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#875 Feb 2, 2013
kiab wrote:
they are using your moniker on the other thread too
kiab, what town forum?

just started reading topix again after a long absence, and i see its over run with "fungi".

hang in there, LW. Xxo

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