Review: Viridian Energy - Marketing
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#2 Aug 28, 2010
I want to hear from an actual Viridian Energy customer who does NOT work for the company or gets some type of bonus for selling their crap. I just need HONEST,UNBIASED ANSWERS NOW!!
#4 Sep 27, 2010
I would also like to find a place to hear from Veridian customers.
#5 Sep 28, 2010
There are more than 8000 Viridian Independent Associates, I being one of them. What is it you'd like to know. On Friday you can attend the 3rd Annual GreenFest w hich is the largest "green" event in the tri state area. Our CEO Michael Fallquist has been asked to speak. If you have some time on Friday, join your neighbors at this fine event: Michael Fallquist, VIRIDIAN ENERGY CEO has been asked to speak about "Saving Green by Going Green". The 3rd Annual GreenFest is a great place to come to learn and meet like-minded people. Come to the breakfast Friday 8am and hear Michael speak. Fee includes breakfast and a free pass for all day Friday.
The New Jersey State Chamber of Commerce and
The Star-Ledger cordially invite you to attend the
Details: Garden State Exhibit Center
8 a.m. to 10 a.m. Come for this great networking opportunity at the 3rd annual Garden State GreenFest, the tri-State's largest green celebration taking place at the Garden State Exhibit Center in Somerset, NJ Registration for breakfast and panel discussion
$25 per person in advance
$35 at the door
Need a Testamonial: Maryland's PBS Station has become a Viridian Fundraising Entity. Visit their website: http://www.mpt.org/
Also, this morning I learned that the Star Ledger Newspaper is now a Viridian Associate. Feel free to call the newspaper.
If you called your local utility, would they disclose their customers? There are privacy laws in place.
That said, I am a neighbor. My website lists my e mail address and my telephone number if you have any questions you like answered. I am not here to sell you anything. I am simply here to keep you up to date about your right to choose who provides your electric service. You do know you have a right to choose, don't you? You can call your utility company and ask them about Viridian Energy. You have a couple of choices. You can choose to Go Green with Viridian and save some money or you can choose another energy supplier wh locks you into contracts but yes, they will give you a gift card for locking into that contract. Or you can continue using your regulated utility company who do not offer you the best rates. I'm so glad I've switched to Viridian as my Supplier of Choice. I get the same billand services from my utility company, nothing changes except the fact that I'm going green, helping the environment AND saving money. Stay up to date by visiting my blog: www.greenthinkinchic.wordpress.com I hope everyone has a happy day!
One last thing, there is a business opportunity with viridian. If you know anyone who's out of work and looking for a business opportunity with a small investment and intensive training, pass them my number. Thanks again!
#6 Sep 28, 2010
I want to hear from an actual Viridian Energy customer who does NOT work for the company. A complete un-biased user review.
#7 Sep 29, 2010
Hello Viridian, could you please explain "FLOATING RATE" as per your quote: Viridian uses a floating rate and you can check that out on the NJ Board of Public Utilities website. I am really not interested in hearing it from the BD of Utilities because I was informed that I have to discuss that with Viridian, so Viridian please explain what Floating rate means and how it affects Viridian customers. Sounds to me like an ARM Mortgage for your electric bill.
#8 Sep 29, 2010
Viridian, I read the entire website no where does it state what the ACTUAL charge per kW Hour is nor does it state what the delivery charge is. Yes JCP&L is infact overcharging its customers and I have reported them to the FTC already twice with no such luck. It seems they need more than just one complaint to file an investigation. As for FLOATING RATE: yes it is an ARM Mortgage for your electric bill, the rate goes up based on what the cost is for renewable energy. You could get a fixed rate but if prices for renewable drop your stuck paying a higher rate. So how does that help us save money. What we need is PSE&G their rates are almost half of JCP&L's rates. I also read that a Viridian rep was with a JCP&L rep discussing Viridian to a town in SUSSEX county, why in the world would JCP&L meet up with a competitior to try to peddle a new energy company to its current customers? Just doesn't sound right.
#9 Sep 29, 2010
Okay so after further research here's what I found Viridian Charges 11.5 cents a kwh JCP&L charges 12.5 kwh so Viridian is going to save me a whopping 1 cent per khw that equates to a total of $5.00 to maybe $10.00 off my bill which is still insane. If you told me you price my usuage at 9.7 a kwh like PSE&G does by the way your facts on PSE&G's prices are way off then I would say yes switch me over but we're still paying a higher rate for renewable energy? If anything it should be at half the cost because you don't have the over head that JCP&L has. Unless Viridian in renting the lines from JCP&L and they need to pay their rental rates. This happened about 10 - 15 years years ago, AT&T was my home service provider Verizon promised they could do better in the end I paid more for Verizon home svc than I did with AT&T finally I had no choice because Verizon bought out the land lines from AT&T. Look I have nothing against Viridian what I have something against is a sales picth aimed at taking peoples hard earned money. If you want to save people money and save the environment then do it the right way, save them real money and save the enviroment. Yes your using renewable energy and that's great but your not saving anyone anything and if the rates go up with a "floating rate" then people are paying more and it will cost them more in the end because they will switch back to JCP&L pay installation and new account set up fees. Yes it is a great idea to use renewable energy and we need to but at what price, sounds to me like just another bunch of high level execs want to get rich off the average JOE. I think it would be a great idea for you to go back to your boss tell him to offer JCP&L customers a rate of maybe lets say 8.9 cents kwh and lock them in. If rates go up or down it wouldn't matter because your saving people money and saving the environment at the sametime. In the long run it will be profitable for your boss and your customers, people will be lining up at your door to sign up. I don't know but that is my take.
#10 Sep 29, 2010
Hello Topix Readers....
I am indeed a Viridian Independent Rep. I am not here to defend or challenge anyone. I am here simply to educate users of electricity that they now have the right to choose a third party energy supplier. This has been in effect for the past ten years. It's apparent you do not understand how our utility companies operate and I am no specialist in the field either. What I do know is that Viridian is a licensed and approved 3rd party provider operating in 5 states as of today. In November we will be opoen for business in NY City and in Orange and Rockland Territories.
I have a blog on everything green: www.greenthinkinchic.wordpress.com
Here you will find almost all the anwers to your questions. It will tell you how our utility companies purchase their electricity. Electricity burned with fossil fuels is the largest single cause of air pollution.
I am a viridian independent rep AND a viridian customer because I want to do my part in making this earth cleaner and healthier for my kids, their kids and generations to come. NJ has the highest electricity rates in the nation. This past summer was the highest for utility co rates and hottest on record. Viridian Energy maintained rates that were lower than our utility company rates and let's not forget our most affordably priced 20% renewable energy cost less than pure fossil fuels.
I do hope you visit my blog: www.greenthinkinchic.wordpress.com
Most importantly, I do hope you exercise your right to choose who supplies your electricity and that you do choose Viridian. If you'd like to contact me, all my contact info can be found at www.viridian.com/agreenthinkinchic or on my blog at www.greenthinkinchic.wordpress.com
PS...No one changes their utility company for billing, service and maintenance. Your utility company is responsible for the transmssion and delivery of the electricity source.
Please contact me directly if you have further questions.
Mary Ann Monteaperto
Viridian Independent Associate
#11 Oct 3, 2010
Okay, I validate your point but please explain to us how Viridain is going to save us money with 11.5 a khw when JCP&L charges us 12.5 kwh that doesn't equate to much. Put aside all of the sales pitches and understand that in this economy people want to save real money not cents which yes they do add up. Also floating rates are a risk and anyone would agree to that. Yes we as a whole need to find alternative energy soruces..agreed. As well NJ does have the highest utility charges and at 11.5 cents a kwh Viridian is still high and you can't say that your going to be lower when the risk of a floating rate can go up and the end result would be a higher electric bill than previously. I am just stating my opinion. People work very hard for their money and I am sure you do as well.
#14 Oct 3, 2010
Viridian's October rate for our 20% renewable energy is .1129, same for PSE&G Customers. You can check the rates for the rest of the states on my website: www.viridian.com/agreenthinkinchic
I don't know about you but I'm grateful I can save even a dollar on my electric bill because I'm also saving the environment. There is absolutely no risk involved either. There are no sign up fees, no contracts, no cancellation fees, no credit checks. The only thing you need to qualify is to be current on your electric bill. You get one bill from your utility company and the same service and maintenance. You save on the Electric Supply Portion of your bill (kWh's) of usage.
We all know we can't fight the large utility companies. They request a rate increase, state their reasons and they get it. Viridian is a way out. At least you can save some cash. It boils down to the equivalent of getting a months electric for free over a year. We've been active in Connecticut for a year and over the past year, Customers in CT of CPL and UI actually saved 18% last year. Of course a floating rate goes up and down. There may be a month where you will pay a few cents more but over the year, you will realize a good savings.
Here's what's on the NJ Board of Utilities Website:
"3.What questions should I ask the suppliers?
One of the first things to ask about is the pricing options the supplier offers. Generally, these options fall into three categories: Fixed, floating and hybrid.
Fixed: Under this option, a customer pays a set, agreed-upon price for energy supplies throughout the term of the contract. Fixed price contracts can help customers save money if energy costs rise in the future. Conversely, customers may end up paying more under a fixed price option if energy costs decline.
Floating: Also known as variable pricing, this option allows the customers price to rise or fall on a monthly basis as it tracks the wholesale cost of electricity or natural gas. Generally, the customers price is a percentage of the wholesale cost, so there is a guaranteed saving built in regardless of the direction in which the wholesale price moves.
Hybrid: This option is a combination of the fixed and floating options. In some cases, the customer pays a fixed price for part of the contract period, and a floating price for the remainder of the time. In other cases, a fixed price will apply to some percentage of the customers supplies and a floating price will apply to the rest...."
The large utility rates are fixed once a year. They offer a summer rate and a winter rate. Period. Here's what the NJ Board of public utilities says about shopping for 3rd party providers.
So what's your excuse now. Get your electric bill and empower your right to choose. Talking and complaining doesn't do anything. Actions do. So save some money and feel good that you're doing something for the environment. Got your bill: go here now! I know you'll feel good that you did! https://www.viridian.com/agreenthinkinchic/Cu...
Have a good night!
#15 Oct 4, 2010
Just go to this website sound like Multi-Level-Marketing to me:
Viridian Energy is not a Scam, they are a energy company that sells green electricity in the mlm model to clients in PPL, some in NJ. Most People in New Jersey have a hard time believing that you can save money on your electric bill at no cost. they all ask what is the catch
Without Proper training you will run into this all day long .imagine people running to you with electric bills in hand eager to sign up with you. I train people at my company that is not Viridian how to do this ..179 to sign up . Lets get started today making you money in the energy business Enter your information on the right hand side
Well there a lot of companies out there that misslead clients and tell them they will save 20% to 30% off of their electric bill. When the client gets the bill they see no savings at all or the savings is around 5% once all SUT tax is included into the electric price.
What if you could sell all day without ever having to convince a client they will save 20% or more and when they get their bill they freak out on you or put a strain on your friendship with them? Would you like to learn how to get 25 clients a week with an hour of work a day?
So lets think about it again since I got off topic a little here. Is Viridian Energy A Scam? Still think its a scam? I have heard this time and time again. When I tell people whom I know that they can save money simply by going to a website and all they need is their electrical bill they think that Im the one being scammed! Well, this is how easy it is to learn the truth get a copy of your electrical bill, call your local utility using the number printed on the bill (so you know it is their real number), and ask them about energy deregulation and about switching suppliers. Be sure to verify that they want you to switch. Ask them confirm it.
Without Proper training you will run into this all day long .imagine people running to you with electric bills in hand eager to sign up with you. Lets get started today making you money in the energy business Enter your information on the right hand side
You make a commission off people's electric bill a month I'm sorry but that's not right what your doing.
#16 Oct 4, 2010
" I agree with ALMOST JOINED VIRIDIAN BUT...". The company founder also has friends/relationship ties to Green-E (a so-called independent energy association) as well as ConEdison. Seems to me he helped set up the "indepented agency" to give him a stamp of approval. The fact is: no one has independently verified that this company is really sourcing green energy. They, like most, are using energy credits.(Look at their first company Viridian Power & Energy in Northern Ireland...it clearly was an energy company that sourced energy rather than produce any itself...but it did it the way many "deregulators jump-ins" do...by using credits. The Energy Credits system is a way for companies that have horrible green track records...to pay other green companies money for their green products...only they are not required to actually USE the products themselves in their own grid, they can roll them over to someone else, or a sub-sub subsiderary they have created,(think of it as a kind of fine), so they can then say they are compliant. Meanwhiel they still make all their millions destroying the earth as usual. In reality, the credit system does not make them produce one red cent less in highly damaging energy production. Which means if you deal with a company that buys or sources credits, you are contributing to the exact problem you are trying to eradicate. DO YOUR HOMEWORK. ASK VIRIDIAN IF THEY USE, BUT OR SOURCE ENERGY CREDITS! They are all smoke and mirrors when it comes to that answer...and they are sucking in so many people who really want to help the green cause. Viridian ( Viridian.com )is in reality a great scam and a damn shame. "
#17 Oct 4, 2010
Here's the last post this is my excuse
Almost joined Viridian but ... wrote on Jul 22, 2010 2:08 AM:
" I'm a NJ resident and I've read all the messages in this thread. A friend introduced me to Viridian and I was interested. I kinda figured it was MLM, but was not worried about that aspect. I was told that you can receive 2 cents/Kwh commission on electric usage and that the energy cost is 15%-17% less than PSE&G (a North Jersey Utility Service).
Viridian website advertises a rate of $0.105 per Kwh in Northern NJ ... However, I checked my last few utility bills and I am being charged $0.11 per Kwh. I'm not a math whiz, but thats not 17% less ... its 1/2 of a penny ... my last bill would have been $6.855 less (which is still a savings) Even if the price were the same, there would be benefit in using a source that was "more environmentally friendly", but I can't find any information to verify that fact.
Anyway, the MLM income plan was as wacky as any others I've seen. I didnt see any info on regarding the flat commission of 2 cents per Kwh. There was just a long list of the usual MLM tier structuring. There was a $399 Associate charge,$19.99mo website Charge & a $59 annual fee.
Don't get me wrong, I've been in sales a long time and I know that if I follow the "talking points" and just get people excited about potential savings & going green I could get people to convert to Viridian with no problem...probably make a few bucks too But in the end, I dont like the fact that I have to get others to "Sell" the product to make my commission. I'm also certain that this product is going to be sold on to consumers based on the "Talking Points" & "Hype" rather than the acutal facts in hopes that homeowners will not research their rates and compare.
In the end ... this was not for me! "
#18 Oct 4, 2010
Viridian, So please tell us DO YOU SOURCE ENERGY CREDITS??
#19 Oct 9, 2010
Just as a fyi, direct marketing has been around for many, many years. If you look at corporate structure, who's on top? Who makes the most money? Direct marketing saves companies in advertising and marketing expenses affording the company to offer savings to it's customers. Take a look at Ambit Energy..fastest growing company in 2009 and their products is brown energy, at a discount. We are all so used to waking up, getting dressed, shoving some breakfast down then off to corporate america where we make a living. We pay our bills. We work like hell and after 30 or so years, we get a watch, a pension and that's it. Direct Marketing, or Network Marketing as a business is not for everyone but if anyone has any drive for success, will work hard for a few years, the rewards are phenomenal. There are no ceilings. It's your business. You make your own hours and your total business investment is just a couple of hundred dollars. You have no accounting, no payroll, no nothing, just time to share information about the product you are marketing.
Viridian Energy is about relationship building. We are one of the first companies in the northeast to offer Green Renewable Energy Products to customers like you and me and small businesses. It's a no brainer when you know all the facts and the bottom line is that you are helping people to save money on their electricity supply, you are helping the environment by supporting global sustainability by getting Green Energy Through the Grid. You asked about RECS.. take a look at the following links. Then gather all your facts before you throw Viridian out the window. I am very proud when I talk about Viridian Energy. We now have more than 500 non profit organizations who have partnered with Viridian Energy to raise funds for their organizations. We are very proud of these numbers. We now have over 80,000 customers and over 7,000 independent Viridian Reps getting the word out there and it's working. We don't waste paper or money on advetising because paper creates pollution..it begins with our trees.
Here's the linkks.. http://www.viridian.com/agreenthinkinchic/Cus...
What's most important is you do have the right to choose who supplies your electricity. I sincerely hope you choose Viridian Energy because Viridian Energy cares about our planet and we don't just talk about it. We are doing something about it. http://www.viridian.com/agreenthinkinchic/Cus...
My contact information is on my website. The current Viridian Rate for 20% Green Renewable energy is .1129 - Get your bill and compare it to the BGS Portion on your utility bill. No you won't save millions but you will realize annualized savings. Connecticut customers saved 18% last year. Not a bad piece of change for helping our environment too. Take a look here.. http://www.viridian.com/assets/marketing/Viri... Here's Viridian's rates thus far for JCP&L Customers: http://www.viridian.com/assets/marketing/Viri... - and PSE&G - http://www.viridian.com/assets/marketing/Viri...
Questions, comments..contact me. Info is on my website. I've found complaining does not make for change. Action does. By going green with Viridian we are exercising our right to choose who provides our electricity. I love having the Power to do that? Don't you?
Enough said. Have a wonderful day!
#20 Oct 9, 2010
Little known fact when people go shopping to a store say walmart they are looking for something. When someone comes to you trying to sell you an item it is sales, amway, door to door whatever you may call it. You have 80,000 customer kudos for you there are over 1,000,000 in Northern New Jersey alone. When you hit 1,000,000 then as a whole company you have something to say. Also renewable energy, your company is buying energy from other companies it is not renewed your not doing anything for the enviroment if anything your adding to the problem we are trying to reduce.
All this is like the $40.00 Dollara toaster the door to door sales rep is trying to sell. It is shinny, it is new, it makes toast. It is still a toaster a commodity. If you were producing energy from a wind farm or from the methane gas from the ocean then now you have a hybrid toaster and that is different but your just selling an average run of the mill toaster thant I can get at walmart for half the price. Good luck sales is hard especially when your trying to sell something that really is what it is.
I give you credit for making an effort especially in this economy. Good Luck but keep in mind be 1000% honest with your customers because if you choose to leave one thing out you will have angry customers, lawsuits and most importantly the worst a bad reputation.
People working for PSE&G, JCP&L wait years and take classes along with credit hours to become "energy consultants" you paid a fee to become one. Well be sure you know your product and how it is going to benefit. You talk all you want about Connecticut, Viridian and so on bottom line know your roll and what your providing. The last this you want to be caught on the carpet and you have nothing to justify yourself with. Be cautious with these marketing sceams they only benefit the top and not you.
Good Luck and I hope that you do well.
#21 Oct 15, 2010
I used to work with two guys near the top of the viridian company...I won't mention names but we'll just call them Frank and Joe.
This is fast money for the guys at the top, trust me, I know these people, where they come from and what their about.
All of these poor people heading down to Atlantic city this weekend for the 1st annual pow-wow are going to be so excited by Sunday morning, their going to fork over the $399.
We all know what this is...and I say if the people are dumb enough to fall for it then let them get burned by the fine print.
Frank and joe are speaking Sunday around 2pm btw
#22 Oct 15, 2010
If it is not too much trouble what does the fine print refer to.
#24 Oct 21, 2010
I second the request that you elaborate upon the "fine print" reference. Even if not specifically, please do so generally. If your objective is to help people not get "burned", some facts would be useful.
#25 Oct 21, 2010
I also ask that you please elaborate upon your reference to the "fine print." When did you join and what was your experience? If you do not want to speak specifically, then please do so generally. Without some facts, your comments are not enlightening or helpful. I and others would appreciate your experiences. There are many criticisms of Viridian, but so far, none seem to withstand scrutiny.
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