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Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

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The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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Since: Jun 11

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#34338 Jun 29, 2012
Amazed wrote:
" Saluki Rod" I find it Ironic you would point out a statement of " smelling farts" as offensive. Read your first comment, starting off by saying Neo Nazi Christians. You are a typical liberal. I am sure jewish people, chrtistians, conservatives and many more find you offensive. I am sure eventually all men can marry men, women the same, and marrying an animal will be ok also, because a politician will do ANYTHING for a vote. As long as our Socialist king Obama is in anything goes !
Irrational. Animals cannot demonstrate the legal requirement of "informed consent", even if they can meet the age requirement.

Socialist king? oxymoron.
Already Superior

Saint Louis, MO

#34339 Jun 29, 2012
The horse died a long time ago.
Not Yet Equal wrote:
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Irrational. Animals cannot demonstrate the legal requirement of "informed consent", even if they can meet the age requirement.
Socialist king? oxymoron.
Amazed

Marion, IL

#34340 Jun 29, 2012
Read the context,....oxymoron SOOOO What !

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#34341 Jun 29, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
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"Many opposite sex parents do not want and often abuse their biological children."

"You relied on personal insults against me and pejorative terminology to demean and stigmatize same sex parent families."
What do you call the first sentence?

Your "30 years of studies" have been debunked as unscientific. And you know that.

You are a liar and deceiver once again.

Maybe 'Not Yet Truthful' would be a good post handle???

Since: May 12

Singapore

#34342 Jun 29, 2012
How will civilization continue to exist with there becoming more and more gays? Last time I checked, a dude can't get another dude pregnant. Don't gay people, men in particular, have a drastically increased risk of aids? Yes they do. Isn't that expensive to treat? Yes it is. Don't most people with aids not have health care?

http://www.trademichaelkors.com/michael-kors-...

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#34343 Jun 29, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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That is a unproven idea.
It is considered unethical, not the least because it is genetic incest.
Even more un-'wonderful'? A child literally without a father.
well, i've got a grandson who is trying his damnedest to prove that it's more than an 'unproven idea'. what's more, he's got something just as good as a mother and a father... he's got a woman who is his mother and father combined, and also a second mother. not only that, but he's got uncles, aunts, and a whole slew of grandparents who adore him, so piss off.

unethical my bleeding hemorrhoids.

No Mo Homo

Romeoville, IL

#34345 Jun 29, 2012
29,760 illiterate comments don't you homo's have something better to do geeez.
Dick Face Durbin

Romeoville, IL

#34346 Jun 29, 2012
My God man learn some basic grammar before you post again.
Bill Of Rights wrote:
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Oh wow man,I guess you told him now didn't you? LOL,Tell me,are you a member of MENSA by chance? What a rapier wit you have and such a way with words and ideas! LOLOLOL,Imbecile!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#34347 Jun 30, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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well, i've got a grandson who is trying his damnedest to prove that it's more than an 'unproven idea'. what's more, he's got something just as good as a mother and a father... he's got a woman who is his mother and father combined, and also a second mother. not only that, but he's got uncles, aunts, and a whole slew of grandparents who adore him, so piss off.
unethical my bleeding hemorrhoids.
We know now a virgin claiming to be impregnated is possible.

Self impregnation? I think your daughter lied to you...

Unethical behavior can certainly cause bleeding hemorrhoids...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#34348 Jun 30, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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well, i've got a grandson who is trying his damnedest to prove that it's more than an 'unproven idea'. what's more, he's got something just as good as a mother and a father... he's got a woman who is his mother and father combined, and also a second mother. not only that, but he's got uncles, aunts, and a whole slew of grandparents who adore him, so piss off.
unethical my bleeding hemorrhoids.
It will be heartbreaking when he asks, "Whose my daddy"?

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#34349 Jun 30, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you call the first sentence?
Your "30 years of studies" have been debunked as unscientific. And you know that.
You are a liar and deceiver once again.
Maybe 'Not Yet Truthful' would be a good post handle???
Again, you rely on insults rather than facts.

The first sentence is a fact. Having worked with abused children for over 40 years, I know this to be true from first hand experience as well as from training.

And, no, the study you offered is junk science, while 30 years of peer reviewed science has demonstrated it is the relationship between the parents and child that determines success, and children of intact same sex parent families do just as well as those of straight parent families.

"Unfortunately, many people are not aware of the three decades of research showing that children of gay or lesbian parents are just as mentally healthy as children with heterosexual parents, notes Cerbone.

Children of gay and lesbian parents reported closer ties with their schools and classmates.

Patterson's and others' findings that good parenting, not a parent's sexual orientation, leads to mentally healthy children may not surprise many psychologists. What may be more surprising is the finding that children of same-sex couples seem to be thriving, though they live in a world that is often unaccepting of their parents."

http://www.apa.org/monitor/dec05/kids.aspx

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#34350 Jun 30, 2012
BennieSemmes wrote:
How will civilization continue to exist with there becoming more and more gays? Last time I checked, a dude can't get another dude pregnant. Don't gay people, men in particular, have a drastically increased risk of aids? Yes they do. Isn't that expensive to treat? Yes it is. Don't most people with aids not have health care?
http://www.trademichaelkors.com/michael-kors-...
Most people with aids are heterosexual. What causes HIV transmission is unprotected sex or sharing needles with an infected partner. Anyone can get it. Gay women have the lowest rates of infection of any group.

Many people are starving to death as a result of overpopulation. Your fear is irrational for this as well as other reasons. Straight people will not become gay. What you are seeing is more people being open and honest about their sexual orientation.

You also seem to have missed the fact that many gay people do in fact have children through the wide variety of methods employed by straight people who need or desire assistance.

"The Turkey Baster Method is the most common way of artificial insemination to get pregnant and have an artificial insemination at home.
The advantage to this method is that you don't need any fitted equipment!
The success rate is the same as with intercourse, perhaps a bit less because there are usually fewer opportunities for insemination and timing may not cover the bases as well." http://www.babymed.com/home-artificial-insemi...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#34352 Jun 30, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
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Again, you rely on insults rather than facts.
The opening paragraphs give the history of parenting views. I would suggest you go to the article and start there.

Sampling concerns in previous surveys

Concern has arisen, however, about the methodological quality of many studies focusing on same-sex parents. In particular, most are based on non-random, non-representative data often employing small samples that do not allow for generalization to the larger population of gay and lesbian families ([Nock, 2001],[Perrin and Committee on Psychosocial Aspects of Child and Family Health, 2002] and [Redding, 2008]). For instance, many published studies on the children of same-sex parents collect data from “snowball” or convenience samples (e.g.,[Bos et al., 2007],[Brewaeys et al., 1997],[Fulcher et al., 2008],[Sirota, 2009] and [Vanfraussen et al., 2003]). One notable example of this is the National Longitudinal Lesbian Family Study, analyses of which were prominently featured in the media in 2011 (e.g., Huffington Post, 2011). The NLLFS employs a convenience sample, recruited entirely by self-selection from announcements posted “at lesbian events, in women’s bookstores, and in lesbian newspapers” in Boston, Washington, and San Francisco. While I do not wish to downplay the significance of such a longitudinal study—it is itself quite a feat—this sampling approach is a problem when the goal (or in this case, the practical result and conventional use of its findings) is to generalize to a population. All such samples are biased, often in unknown ways. As a formal sampling method,“snowball sampling is known to have some serious problems,” one expert asserts (Snijders, 1992, p. 59). Indeed, such samples are likely biased toward “inclusion of those who have many interrelationships with, or are coupled to, a large number of other individuals”(Berg, 1988, p. 531). But apart from the knowledge of individuals’ inclusion probability, unbiased estimation is not possible.

Further, as Nock (2001) entreated, consider the convenience sample recruited from within organizations devoted to seeking rights for gays and lesbians, like the NLLFS sampling strategy. Suppose, for example, that the respondents have higher levels of education than comparable lesbians who do not frequent such events or bookstores, or who live elsewhere. If such a sample is used for research purposes, then anything that is correlated with educational attainment—like better health, more deliberative parenting, and greater access to social capital and educational opportunities for children—will be biased. Any claims about a population based on a group that does not represent it will be distorted, since its sample of lesbian parents is less diverse (given what is known about it) than a representative sample would reveal (Baumle et al., 2009).

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#34353 Jun 30, 2012
"To compound the problem, results from nonprobability samples—from which meaningful statistics cannot be generated—are regularly compared with population-level samples of heterosexual parents, which no doubt are comprised of a blend of higher and lower quality parents. For example,[Gartrell et al., 2011a] and [Gartrell et al., 2011b] inquired about the sexual orientation and behavior of adolescents by comparing data from the National Survey of Family Growth (NSFG) with those in the snowball sample of youth in the NLLFS. Comparing a population-based sample (the NSFG) to a select sample of youth from same-sex parents does not provide the statistical confidence demanded of good social science. Until now, this has been a primary way in which scholars have collected and evaluated data on same-sex parents. This is not to suggest that snowball samples are inherently problematic as data-collection techniques, only that they are not adequate for making useful comparisons with samples that are entirely different with regard to selection characteristics. Snowball and various other types of convenience sampling are simply not widely generalizable or comparable to the population of interest as a whole. While researchers themselves commonly note this important limitation, it is often entirely lost in the translation and transmission of findings by the media to the public."

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#34354 Jun 30, 2012
Not The Same wrote:
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Again, you rely on insults rather than facts.
To compound the problem, results from nonprobability samples—from which meaningful statistics cannot be generated—are regularly compared with population-level samples of heterosexual parents, which no doubt are comprised of a blend of higher and lower quality parents. For example,[Gartrell et al., 2011a] and [Gartrell et al., 2011b] inquired about the sexual orientation and behavior of adolescents by comparing data from the National Survey of Family Growth (NSFG) with those in the snowball sample of youth in the NLLFS. Comparing a population-based sample (the NSFG) to a select sample of youth from same-sex parents does not provide the statistical confidence demanded of good social science. Until now, this has been a primary way in which scholars have collected and evaluated data on same-sex parents. This is not to suggest that snowball samples are inherently problematic as data-collection techniques, only that they are not adequate for making useful comparisons with samples that are entirely different with regard to selection characteristics. Snowball and various other types of convenience sampling are simply not widely generalizable or comparable to the population of interest as a whole. While researchers themselves commonly note this important limitation, it is often entirely lost in the translation and transmission of findings by the media to the public.

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#34356 Jun 30, 2012
No Mo Homo wrote:
29,760 illiterate comments don't you homo's have something better to do geeez.
well, you're here... i guess that makes you a 'homo'
DObama

Romeoville, IL

#34357 Jun 30, 2012
Excuse me not only you cannot construct a cogent thought you are full of it. There is not a child in the world that wants parents of the same sex .
Not Yet Equal wrote:
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Again, you rely on insults rather than facts.
The first sentence is a fact. Having worked with abused children for over 40 years, I know this to be true from first hand experience as well as from training.
And, no, the study you offered is junk science, while 30 years of peer reviewed science has demonstrated it is the relationship between the parents and child that determines success, and children of intact same sex parent families do just as well as those of straight parent families.
"Unfortunately, many people are not aware of the three decades of research showing that children of gay or lesbian parents are just as mentally healthy as children with heterosexual parents, notes Cerbone.
Children of gay and lesbian parents reported closer ties with their schools and classmates.
Patterson's and others' findings that good parenting, not a parent's sexual orientation, leads to mentally healthy children may not surprise many psychologists. What may be more surprising is the finding that children of same-sex couples seem to be thriving, though they live in a world that is often unaccepting of their parents."
http://www.apa.org/monitor/dec05/kids.aspx
LuLu

Romeoville, IL

#34358 Jun 30, 2012
Expected response from an ignorant piece of trash.If you are going to use a quote at least learn to capitalize.
dances with weebles wrote:
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well, you're here... i guess that makes you a 'homo'

“laugh until your belly hurts”

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#34359 Jun 30, 2012
LuLu wrote:
Expected response from an ignorant piece of trash.If you are going to use a quote at least learn to capitalize.<quoted text>
call me old fashioned, but i began using the internet when it was still based on irc and mirc. capitalisation was considered, not only unnecessary, but poor manners... and it screws up the html codes of pages.

so piss off.
LuLu

Romeoville, IL

#34360 Jun 30, 2012
Yes you are old everything today today is java script not Cplus go back to the 80's.
dances with weebles wrote:
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call me old fashioned, but i began using the internet when it was still based on irc and mirc. capitalisation was considered, not only unnecessary, but poor manners... and it screws up the html codes of pages.
so piss off.

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