Kenton County Jailer-Cop wannabees?

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Observer

Radcliff, KY

#1 Jun 23, 2010
Wow. I saw one of these Guards at the hospital "Guarding" an Inmate. Dude had his sleeves rolled up so all his patch said was "Kenton County" and you didn't see the "Jail" or whatever that patch says. He was telling the inmate that he can get free food for doing this cause people think he is a Cop. LMAO! How much of a loser do you have to be to be a wannabee cop and roll your sleeves up? I did a ride along with my neighbor cause I was curious @ what kinda crap he deals with, we got to the Jail and all these wannabees were asking when they are hiring and shit and how they can't seem to make it, all the badge bunnies were talking to him too, guess thats a good advantage of being a cop. When we left, he said all the "guards" always come out to talk to the real POLICE and when we turned onto the street he even said to watch all the Guards who were outside smoking come running up to his police car like he is a fucking rock star and sure enough they did! I couldnt believe it! He said its normal and they will never get hired cause they are guards and they jail is a joke and full of nothing but cop wannabees and they have already fucked themselves by working at the Jail because no chief wants the rejects. I didnt believe it until I saw the Guard at the Hospital say that and act all cool, he even had his hand on his gun the whole time he was talking to someone, come on man seriously. I think its funny as hell now, so next time you see one of the guards, smile and have a good laugh cause they cant do shit to you or even arrest you unless u are on jail property.
neegor

Cincinnati, OH

#2 Jun 29, 2010
you are absolutely true they cannot do anything unless on jail property. i did 2 years in kenton county jail a while back and knew all of the guards that worked there at that time. yeah there was a couple of them that thought they were all powerful as if they were on the swat team or special forces. but for the most part actually most of them were down to earth as normal people in normal jobs. the jailer deputy pretty much work at the jail until they put enough time and dues in till they can go into the police academy. i always got a kick when the overly confident and proud jailers would come in cell with chest put out walking with head up like they are invincible lol just remind them that they are a jailer haha
observer

Radcliff, KY

#3 Jun 29, 2010
Only prob is though, only a very few EVER get onto a PD, they all think its their "foot in the door" but not even close cause all the cops know they r jokes.
bob

Covington, KY

#4 Jul 1, 2010
You guys must not know how to read. Try going to kentoncounty.org and reading. The Jailers keep the murders out of your neighborhood and your family safe every night. They are also sworn in as Kentucky State Peace Officers and have full arrest authority. Get your facts straight people because you are the one who sounds stupid. Instead of a ride along why dont you come in on a Saterday night and fill one of there shoes??
ex-osu emp

Oklahoma City, OK

#5 Jul 1, 2010
So I'm all booked up on Saterday nite at the jack shack with some big ol' tittay
observer

Radcliff, KY

#6 Jul 1, 2010
lol, yeah they have arrest powers but ONLY ON DETENTION CENTER PROPERTY. And the COPS do the work not the WANNABEES.
KentonCOP

Cincinnati, OH

#7 Jul 9, 2010
as a police officer in kenton county I could not agree more with the original poster of this subject. I laugh every time I leave the jail, exactly what he said WANNABEES. And a couple badge bunnies who work there.
KentonCOP

Cincinnati, OH

#8 Jul 9, 2010
also true, they can only arrest on the jail property. Also, they can not carry firearms off duty due to the fact that one of them got stupid on night and shot a stop sign drunk. Only the Jailer is considered a Peace Officer which is stupid anyway cause he did not complete the DOCJT training. Also, it is true that they never get hired due to their occupation and backgrounds, dont get me wrong quite a few would be great cops but due to the past no chief wants to hire anyone from the jail due to the ignorant ones that screwed it up. I know of only a few who went on to be cops and they are great but this is DEF not a "foot in the door".
Jail

United States

#9 Jul 22, 2010
As a former Jailer in Kentucky, All Jailers are sworn in as they were a cop. They do have arrest rights on and off jail grounds. Being sworn in as a peace officer their also supposed to intervene when they see a crime taking place.
Also, 90% of the cops I know once worked as a Jailer so it is a good start. I know 12 cops of the top of my head and 10 of them worked in a jail before.
Look up facts before you speak!
KentonCOP

Radcliff, KY

#10 Jul 22, 2010
Um.....Yeah, let them intervene in something and not know how to handle it. No DOCJT training, no training as a police officer. 90% of these wannabees will NEVER make it, espicialy in Kenton County. Look at the retards that work there, look at the retards that run that shithole. You have an alcoholic "colonel" that thinks he is the shit cause he is a former marine. He is a JOKE. The laughing stock of Kenton County public safety.
Awesome

Radcliff, KY

#11 Jul 27, 2010
I saw them smoking outside and talkin to the COPS while I was on break from the IRS. So flippin true.
Door Kicker

Florence, KY

#12 Jul 29, 2010
All I can say, is work in a jail!! Sure there is a few dumbasses that works in the jail. But they are also dumbasses that work in every police Dept. I worked there for a few years. I loved it. I was one of the ones that made it to other types of law enforcement. But I gave law enforcement up. Im sick of the egos that go with the job. Most of the cops were kids that where picked on in high school.
Really

Radcliff, KY

#13 Jul 29, 2010
"But I gave up law enforcement"? But you work at a jail now? WOW, Im thinking you did something to not be a cop anymore and the jail is only place where u can still act like a cop. Also, you are blasting cops saying "most were kids that got picked in in high school" but yet YOU claim you were a cop and
you also say "I loved it" and you left and "sick of the egos" but yet you claim to have done it for a few yrs. Im calling BULL SHIT on this post.
Door Kicker

Florence, KY

#14 Jul 31, 2010
Really wrote:
"But I gave up law enforcement"? But you work at a jail now? WOW, Im thinking you did something to not be a cop anymore and the jail is only place where u can still act like a cop. Also, you are blasting cops saying "most were kids that got picked in in high school" but yet YOU claim you were a cop and
you also say "I loved it" and you left and "sick of the egos" but yet you claim to have done it for a few yrs. Im calling BULL SHIT on this post.
Im saying you are a retard. Read and understand what I said. I worked there, meaning I no longer work there. Im not in any form or fashion in law enforcement.
Chief Anthony Rouse

West Chester, OH

#15 Aug 1, 2010
I started my career in corrections at the Hamilton County Workhouse in 1984. It was some of the best experience I got in all my training; which includes two state police academies, a corrections academy, and two formal college degrees. I mention my experience to establish that I have seen much in my twenty-six years on the job and have some experience with these issues youíre discussing. First, there are no barrels without bad apples. They exist in most if not all agencies to some degree or another. Solely blaming Kenton County Jail is useless, for itís no different than the rest and I am sure they know who their apples are anyway. As for an officer wanting to better themselves, who doesnít? The jail is a great place to start a career in law enforcement and much can be learned about dealing with people under the stress of incarceration. When you work the street, you have the option of arrest, but in the jail, your options are to deal with the individual directly and seek a solution to whatever problem is at hand. I have found that the best police officers have a background in corrections. Any officer who uses his uniform to gain a free meal is causing undo reproach on the entire profession and should be dealt with immediately. My officers are told up front, if a gratuity is given, it is ok to accept it. However, they are never to ask for it or assume it will be given. Most eateries have been giving officers breaks on meals for many years and it is commonly accepted as being ok. But again, no officer should request it; for it makes them and the rest of us look bad. I have been in Kentonís Jail many times and have noticed a marked improvement under the leadership of former state trooper Rodney Ballard. The jailers look and act way more professional and now have greater standards when being considered for employment. The equation of ego is hard to address as some are affected by it more than others. Usually, itís a new officer thing and wears off after a short time. Itís also hard to distinguish between pride and ego. Officers who exhibit pride often are mistaken as being egotistical. When you say wannabe, it sounds negative. If you say ambitious, it sounds positive. Both are essentially the same thing only differing by a personís perspective towards it. The bottom line is that corrections officers have one of the most dangerous jobs in law enforcement, and statistics show this time and time again. Correctional Officerís injuries are almost twice that of any other branch of law enforcement. Rather than condemn these officers and Kenton County Jail, all in the same breath, we should support them and if necessary, bring to the attention of their leadership what needs to be changed. Great leadership is always receptive to suggestions and feedback, no matter where it comes from. So, do what you think should be done and report it. No good or change will come from just keeping your comments confined to topix.com . So make your voice and suggestions heard where they can hopefully do some good.
pointman34

Covington, KY

#16 Aug 4, 2010
KentonCOP wrote:
Um.....Yeah, let them intervene in something and not know how to handle it. No DOCJT training, no training as a police officer. 90% of these wannabees will NEVER make it, espicialy in Kenton County. Look at the retards that work there, look at the retards that run that shithole. You have an alcoholic "colonel" that thinks he is the shit cause he is a former marine. He is a JOKE. The laughing stock of Kenton County public safety.
Ok, first item for discussion, get your facts straight. Before you start "attempting" to quote KRS, you might want to brush up on your literature first. KRS 466.010, look it up. All jailers are State Peace officers with full arrest powers, not just the elected jailer and certainly not just on jail property. You, as a so called Kenton cop, are doing a great job at representing your profession and department by informing everyone that your are a cop first thing in your response and then slamming another agency in an online forum; douchebag. I wonder; do feel the need to inform everyone that you are a cop bacause you fear that no one will pay attention to you unless you are in a position of authority? I must have missed that part of "officer comportmant and ethics class". I bet you flash your badge on a regular basis for discounts too. Do us all a favor and try not to glorify your position so much as to think that every jailer comes into the corrections profession with dreams of becoming a cop. Some people are proud of what they do for a living. You of all people, COP, should know that the publics perception of what a law enforcement officer does is likely to be misrepresented. Also, you laugh everytime you leave the Jail huh? Why is that? Is it because you think that everyone else in uniform wants to be you? Do you feel that correction officers strive everyday to be like you? Just think about what you are going to say before you say it next time COP, think about who's going to help your disuptive inmates when you come to the jail? You'll need some help if all that you are doing is laughing at the Jail officers and not concentrating on the job at hand. I'll conclude with this comment kentoncop... next time you visit the kenton county jail, ask the intake officer if you can speak with pointman34. This way maybe we can keep this out of the online forum and possibly gets some facts straight. Maybe then will we see who is untrained. pussy.
Jason G Grigsby

Erlanger, KY

#17 Aug 4, 2010
@ Observer and KentonCOP as a police officer in Kenton County, I want to say your comments have humiliated and shamed the police "profession". Do us all a favor and shut your mouths before you do any more damage with your unwarranted egotistical and hypocritical rantings and ravings. It's an embarrassment. If you have some problems with jail staff address it with the jail. That's common sense 095.
I DONT GET IT

Radcliff, KY

#18 Aug 14, 2010
I APPLIED AT THE JAIL IN COVINGTON LAST WEEK AND I ALSO WENT TO THE JAIL IN NEWPORT FOR AN INTERVIEW THIS PAST WEEK. I ASKED THE JAILER ABOUT THEIR POWERS OF ARREST AND HE TOLD ME ONLY ON THE PROPERTY. I LOOKED ON THE WEBISTE AND THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS...."This is a skilled position in a Detention Center. It is a sworn, law enforcement position with arrest powers. However, the power of arrest is to be used only on Detention Center property. An employee in this position is responsible for the supervision of inmates. The Deputy Jailer will perform all tasks in a professional manner. Work is performed under general to close supervision".
SO, HOW CAN THE CAMPBELL JAILERS ONLY ALLOWED ON JAIL PROPERTY BUT IF I READ THIS RIGHT THEN THE KENTON JAILERS HAVE FULL STATE?
Former Jailer

Erlanger, KY

#19 Aug 15, 2010
The County Jails only want you to use that power on their property but if need be, legally you can arrest someone anywhere within the State of KY. Every Police Officer has a jurisdication but can use there powers anywhere within KY if need be.
WOW

Cincinnati, OH

#20 Aug 16, 2010
Hey "KentonCOP". I used to work as a Deputy Jailer so I know what it is like to work behind the walls and also I knew one day I would be on the streets. NOT everyone who works at the Jail wants to be a Police Officer, in fact some enjoy just being a CO and getting the benefits from being a County Employee. Sure, I remember some who I thought should in no well in hell ever have as you say a "real police" badge but guess what? They QUIT or were passed on because the PD saw this or they eventually just left and decided it wasn't for them. For YOU as a Police Officer in the County I also work in is an embarassment to yourself as well as I to work in my county. Maybe you should look back and your comments and be thankful that YOU made it. Also, if you were out and the fecal matter hit the wind circulator and you had either a CIVILIAN or a as you say "wanabe" then I would rather have the "wanabe" who at least has been trained in tactics and PPCT.

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