ONLY the DEMOCRATS are AGAINST voter IDs
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#1069 Dec 23, 2013
According to new research by University of Massachusetts Boston sociologist Keith Bentele and political scientist Erin O’Brien, the states that have enacted tougher voter ID laws in the past few years are also the same states where both minority and lower-income voter turnout had increased in recent years.

Focusing further analysis on just 2011, when the vast majority of voter ID regulations were passed, the researchers found that states which passed the legislation were highly likely to have:

- Republicans in control of both houses of the state legislature and the governorship

- Strong probabilities of being swing states in the 2012 elections

- Minority turnout which was higher in the 2008 election and with high proportions of African-American voters

- Larger numbers of allegations of fraud in 2004, though these had a “much smaller substantive impact relative to partisan and racial factors”

The authors note that the study’s results carry ominous implications and demonstrate voter ID laws have “an uncomfortable relationship to the political activism of blacks and the poor.” Their paper further situates voter ID within a realm of policies that “collectively reduce electoral access among the socially marginalized.”

In other words: Their research adds substantial support to the claim popular among the left and even some former Republicans that stricter voter ID requirements has little to do with purported voter fraud and everything to do with preserving GOP majorities in election results against widening opposition. The fact of the matter is that voter ID laws overwhelmingly affect minorities and the poor.

Even a study preferred by the conservative Heritage Foundation’s Hans von Spakovsky found that “registered voters without photo IDs tended to be female, African-American, and Democrat.”

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/21/study_confirm...
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#1071 Dec 26, 2013
Only the Koch brothers don't want anyone to vote but those likely to vote with the Koch brothers.

“Sockpuppets SUCK!”

Since: Oct 08

Where my house is

#1072 Dec 26, 2013
Gorky wrote:
Only the Koch brothers don't want anyone to vote but those likely to vote with the Koch brothers.
More LIES from the typical liberal.
I've already posted actual FACTS from REAL newspapers that show Voter ID actually increased participation in minorities.
Your college professors posting "theories" about situations they have never been in will never get it right.
Where are your FACTS that a few brothers want anyone to vote? Are these just your hate filled rants that have no proof about 2 brothers that are the MEGA-THREAT to everything liberals stand for? I mean, they don't want ANYONE to vote, they are single-handily preventing any MAN MADE Global Warming legislation or education from happening. I can't wait to hear how THEY are responsible for the disaster that is the Healthcare roll-out!
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#1073 Dec 26, 2013
Gorky wrote:
Only the Koch brothers don't want anyone to vote but those likely to vote with the Koch brothers.
http://www.prwatch.org/print/11117

“Sockpuppets SUCK!”

Since: Oct 08

Where my house is

#1074 Dec 27, 2013
Gorky wrote:
Center for media and Democracy is your valid link?
WHy not just chose one directly from George Sorros himself?

“Sockpuppets SUCK!”

Since: Oct 08

Where my house is

#1075 Dec 27, 2013
Top investors are calling for self protection int he predicted fall..

http://washingtonexaminer.com/be-prepared-wal...

I'll be damned if I give up the ONLY protection I have from child molesters and pedophiles like you...

More and more sheriff's across the nation are refusing to enforce unconstitutional gun regulations. The Military will NEVER fight against it's own citizens. Hell, we ARE the citizens! Only sicko's like your group want us to be undefended.. That way, you can come in and enforce your unlawful ideas on the rest of us.
Well, I don't ever want to see a day when your ideas of child abuse and sexual deviancy are considered mainstream!

Sick, all of you

“Sockpuppets SUCK!”

Since: Oct 08

Where my house is

#1076 Dec 27, 2013
Oops, this was posted to the wrong thread. Seems I had too many "tabs" open at one time. TOPIX Moderator, please feel free to delete this post at your discretion!
My apologies for the incorrect forum post.
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#1077 Dec 27, 2013
Miken96 wrote:
<quoted text>Center for media and Democracy is your valid link?
WHy not just chose one directly from George Sorros himself?
When the Center for Media and Democracy is quoting the Koch Brothers as their source of information, yes, the Center for Media and Democracy is a valid source of reference.

Miken, it is good that you are critical, but when you start basing your critique on the political party label you dislike and not on the issue's and their merit, you are not using facts. George Sorros has been a prominent international supporter of democratic ideals and causes for more than 30 years. His philanthropic organization, the Open Society Foundations, supports democracy and human rights in over 70 countries. Notice the small "d".
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#1078 Dec 27, 2013
Since you mentioned Democrats, I thought I would entertain you with some more tidbits, enjoy!

1. A Socialist wrote the Pledge of Allegiance.
2. Jesus healed the sick and helped the poor, for free.
3. Joseph McCarthy was an un-American, witch hunting sissy.
4. Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee were traitors.
5. The South lost the Civil War, get over it.
6. The Founding Fathers were liberals.
7. Fascism is a right-wing trait.
8. Sarah Palin is an idiot.
9. The Earth is round.
10. Reagan raised taxes eleven times as President.
11. Reagan legalized abortion as Governor of California.
12. Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency.
13. Ronald Reagan supported gun control.
14. Global warming is real.
15. Republicans hate illegal immigrants, unless they need their lawns mowed or their houses cleaned.
16. The military is a government-run institution, so why do Republicans approve the defense budget?

“Sockpuppets SUCK!”

Since: Oct 08

Where my house is

#1079 Dec 27, 2013
Gorky wrote:
<quoted text>
When the Center for Media and Democracy is quoting the Koch Brothers as their source of information, yes, the Center for Media and Democracy is a valid source of reference.
Miken, it is good that you are critical, but when you start basing your critique on the political party label you dislike and not on the issue's and their merit, you are not using facts. George Sorros has been a prominent international supporter of democratic ideals and causes for more than 30 years. His philanthropic organization, the Open Society Foundations, supports democracy and human rights in over 70 countries. Notice the small "d".
This from the man who posted a claim of a 4-7 degree GLOBAL rise in temps, and then we find out YOU changed the words of the article to meet YOUR expectations.
You have STILL not owned up to THAT lie, so why should I believe this one?
See what happens to credibility when you LIE.
At least when I make a mistake, I IMMEDIATELY account for it...
And Soros is as much of a corporate hore (spelled wrong on purpose) as either of the Koch brothers, The Clintons, The Gores, The Heinz's, the Rockefeller 's, or any other wealthy mogul.. You insistence to defend that stooge ( your word BTW) and chastize others who do the same is a clear display of your hypocrisy...
They are ALL media hores with an agenda to push.

“Sockpuppets SUCK!”

Since: Oct 08

Where my house is

#1080 Dec 27, 2013
Gorky wrote:
Since you mentioned Democrats, I thought I would entertain you with some more tidbits, enjoy!
1. A Socialist wrote the Pledge of Allegiance.
2. Jesus healed the sick and helped the poor, for free.
3. Joseph McCarthy was an un-American, witch hunting sissy.
4. Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee were traitors.
5. The South lost the Civil War, get over it.
6. The Founding Fathers were liberals.
7. Fascism is a right-wing trait.
8. Sarah Palin is an idiot.
9. The Earth is round.
10. Reagan raised taxes eleven times as President.
11. Reagan legalized abortion as Governor of California.
12. Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency.
13. Ronald Reagan supported gun control.
14. Global warming is real.
15. Republicans hate illegal immigrants, unless they need their lawns mowed or their houses cleaned.
16. The military is a government-run institution, so why do Republicans approve the defense budget?
Most of this is a cut and paste spin factory.
#2 is correct as written
Can't say I agree with #4
I could care less about #5. It happened a long time ago and did not personally effect me
#6 is crap. You cannot place modern political terms on historic figures like that. it's as stupid as arguing the political slant of Jesus Christ.
#7 is bukllshlt
#8 is a personal opinion. I could care less what she says, and never did. She was easy on the eyes and McCain needed a "prop" at the time. She is Leaps and Bounds above Kerry or Biden though and they ain't as easy on the eyes
#9 is correct...
#10 is incorrect. The President cannot raise ONE tax. Only congress can do that, and that was a (D) controlled congress.
#11 is irrevelent. I am not against abortion as a general rule. I am against the procedure when used as a form of birthcontrol or when the public is forced to pay for it.
14 is unverified crap
15 is spin. Most republicans I know are against ALL forms of illegal immigration, and make no exceptions. Only Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein seem to believe otherwise.
#16. I know you HATE the military, but the men and women serving their country deserve better than your hate for their sacrifices. I'll bet you agree with the west baptist folks congratulating the fallen soldiers as having got what they deserved!
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#1081 Dec 27, 2013
All of it is cut and paste and it is indeed unverified crap with little or no meaning other than to experience what it is like to have no regard for what is.

FYI, I do not hate the military and I do hate, without remorse, most of what Congress and the President, past and present, have done with the military and for the enrichment of corporations.

George Soros, to the best of my knowledge, has little to do with corporations. He did have connections with a Wall Street brokerage fund at one time and he does donate heavily to charities. I like him because of his charity and his support for ending the failed war on drugs. Beyond that, no one is perfect.

“Sockpuppets SUCK!”

Since: Oct 08

Where my house is

#1082 Dec 27, 2013
Gorky wrote:
All of it is cut and paste and it is indeed unverified crap with little or no meaning other than to experience what it is like to have no regard for what is.
FYI, I do not hate the military and I do hate, without remorse, most of what Congress and the President, past and present, have done with the military and for the enrichment of corporations.
George Soros, to the best of my knowledge, has little to do with corporations. He did have connections with a Wall Street brokerage fund at one time and he does donate heavily to charities. I like him because of his charity and his support for ending the failed war on drugs. Beyond that, no one is perfect.
The Koch brothers and other non-democrats also donate heavily to charities. Beyond their charity donations (to escape paying more in taxes BTW) they are all in it for themselves. Soros is no better or worse than your hated Koch brothers. Your comments about past and present Presidents and Congress sounds great written here, but your attacks on the military in the past say something different. The men and Women that CHOSE to serve their country do so not for corporate pleasure or gain. The MASSIVE MAJORITY serve because they feel an obligation to give back to a country that has given them so much to begin with. Our men and women serve for a greater purpose. Well, MOST do.. Some serve because they want to "take' the system. They rarely last more than 3-5 years, and then get out and claim some debilitating injury (Physical or Mental) to get VA benefits the rest of their lives. the point being, that the military is more than just some dim-witted tool of the executive and legislative branches of this country moving to enrich some corporation or entity. it is filled with honorable and valiant young men and women TRYING to make a difference for the rest of us. It matters not if we appreciate the sacrifice or not.
What congress and the President just did (via the new budget) is deplorable. You do NOT break promises like that. I got tired of having McCain's secretary hang up on me when I called to voice my displeasure. I was told that I am not a AZ voter, and he therefore doesn't care what I think! Imagine that......!

“Sockpuppets SUCK!”

Since: Oct 08

Where my house is

#1083 Dec 27, 2013
FWI:
Since 2003, billionaire George Soros has spent more than $52 million funding media properties, and he has direct ties to more than 30 news outlets—including The New York Times, The Washington Post, the Associated Press, CNN, and ABC.

In keeping with his hard-left socialist vision for America, Soros goes after this the best way he knows how—through accessing and controlling the "news" media.

And if that weren't enough, George Soros has now accepted a position on the National Finance Council of the Ready for Hillary Super PAC, a group paving the way for a 2016 presidential run for the former first lady.

Seems to be on par with my earlier opinion!?!?!

they are ALL in it for themselves. You don't spend 52MILLION just for kicks. You spend it to get MORE power and money
James Madison

Carrizozo, NM

#1084 Dec 27, 2013
Gorky wrote:
All of it is cut and paste and it is indeed unverified crap with little or no meaning other than to experience what it is like to have no regard for what is.
FYI, I do not hate the military and I do hate, without remorse, most of what Congress and the President, past and present, have done with the military and for the enrichment of corporations.
George Soros, to the best of my knowledge, has little to do with corporations. He did have connections with a Wall Street brokerage fund at one time and he does donate heavily to charities. I like him because of his charity and his support for ending the failed war on drugs. Beyond that, no one is perfect.
In time of actual war, great discretionary powers are constantly given to the Executive Magistrate. Constant apprehension of War, has the same tendency to render the head too large for the body. A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.– Speech, Constitutional Convention (1787-06-29)
James Madison

Carrizozo, NM

#1085 Dec 27, 2013
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – Political Observations” (1795-04-20)
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#1086 Dec 28, 2013
Thanks for the observations, James.

Again, Miken, my past comments on the military were limited to the application of military solutions having more to do with political misuse of the military than the military itself. That said, you don't get to criticize my relationship with the military, or my military.service.

Kochs have given "more than a hundred million dollars to right wing causes". In the last decade, the Kochs have given more than $600 million in pledged or donated money to arts, education, and medical research and that does not compel me to like them as human beings.

“Sockpuppets SUCK!”

Since: Oct 08

Where my house is

#1087 Dec 28, 2013
Gorky wrote:
Thanks for the observations, James.
Again, Miken, my past comments on the military were limited to the application of military solutions having more to do with political misuse of the military than the military itself. That said, you don't get to criticize my relationship with the military, or my military.service.
Kochs have given "more than a hundred million dollars to right wing causes". In the last decade, the Kochs have given more than $600 million in pledged or donated money to arts, education, and medical research and that does not compel me to like them as human beings.
Sorry Kennie, but I DO get to criticize. It's called a PUBLIC forum, and your comments past and present leave me, PEROSNALLY, with the impression that you have a negative impression of the military as a whole. That whole includes the honorable men and women who are volunteering to serve a greater good because you refuse to differentiate between the two. You save that for when someone says something about it so you have a "crutch" to fall back on. Part of that "Never say something they can pin you down on" mantra you libs live by.
And the 600Million is how much more that you have given to Arts, education and medical research in yhour lifetime?????
That's what I thought!
You only care when it is a Liberal Socialist donating a small portion of his/her vast wealth base to a cause, and the cause BETTER be a left wing one, or it doesn't count.
I personally don't give a rats behind who gave what. That they gave is what counts. I gave $1200.00 to Kitty City in 2013, but I am still a "Stooge" to you, so I guess I have proven my point. I chose that entity after I rescued a cat a few years back from there and decided a "no-kill" shelter was worthy of my support. I don't even claim it on taxes. it's a gift!
You claim there is no left wing bias, but a CONSENSUS of the media and the general population says otherwise. Now why is a consensus NOT valid here but is the foundation of your claims in other threads? Are you THAT much of a hypocrite?

According to a Pew study, 82 percent of Americans agree that there is at least some bias in news coverage—and they agree it is more of a liberal bias than conservative.
Now if that ain't a CONSENSUS, what is?

op journalists from The New York Times, NBC News and CNN acknowledged Wednesday that, generally speaking, the national media have a liberal bias.

On a Playbook Breakfast panel, the Times' Peter Baker and Mark Leibovich, NBC's Kelly O'Donnell and CNN's Jake Tapper all said "yes" when asked if the news media lean left — though all agreed it was a nuanced issue having more to do with journalists' life experiences than with any particular agenda.

"Most of my colleagues, I have no idea what their politics are.... But think about it: I live in northwest Washington, none of my neighbors are evangelical Christians, I don't know a lot of people in my kid's preschool who are pro-life," Leibovich said. "When you have conversations, at all the newspapers I've worked at, about politics — it doesn't happen often — but you see clues that there is absolutely a left-wing bias."

But go ahead and deny it..Just like you deny you LIED about a temp rise across the globe in another thread.
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#1089 Dec 29, 2013
You can criticize me all you want. However you can't honestly critique my military experience unless you knew what my military experience was. It is obvious that you don't. You are exercising your prejudices, as is your right. In essence, you are lying about me, which according to your "standards", makes you a liar.
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#1090 Dec 29, 2013
In reply to the title of this thread, only Republican extremists and fascists are for suppressing the vote.

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