Two children stabbed; man arrested in Hidden Valley Lake

There are 22 comments on the Lake County Record-Bee story from Mar 26, 2008, titled Two children stabbed; man arrested in Hidden Valley Lake. In it, Lake County Record-Bee reports that:

At approximately 4:30 p.m. Friday, March 21, sheriff's deputies and rescue personnel from Cal-Fire responded to Firethorn Road in Hidden Valley Lake on a report that a 10-year-old female had been stabbed with a ...

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SME

United States

#1 Mar 27, 2008
i would kill him if i was the girls relatives. retarded or not thats dispicable!murder of a child is mad. i say give the sunofabitch the death penalty!
BEH

United States

#2 Mar 27, 2008
I would give him the death penalty too. just caus hes a mental caus doesn't mean he sould get away with it. He's a murder for goodness sake. and he killed and injured one of my goodfriends little sisters. Why should he be able to get out? He can kill more children. he almost killed two!
Brittney Habshi

United States

#3 Mar 27, 2008
I don't think that the guy should get out just caus he has a mental problem or whatever it is that is wrong with him....He Murdered one of my good friends sisters and almost killed the other one.
If he gets out then he can murder more. this is devastating. PLEASE DON"T LET HIM OUT. GIVE HIM LIFE IN PRISON OF THE DEATH PENALITY!!!!!
Mike

United States

#4 Mar 28, 2008
Alleged perp, James Ronald Pagan, what drugs, if any, were you using at the time this happened? What was your intention, if you were the one who stabbed these girls?

What is this man's criminal history?
TJO

United States

#5 Mar 30, 2008
This is truly sad. In the time of grief for the family, we also remember the soul of Tessa. May her soul and all the souls of the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace. Amen.
jjj

Pleasant Hill, CA

#6 Mar 31, 2008
Wow. People who want to kill the mentally retarded of the world. That is really a fearful thought. You are certainly not Christians. Luckily the US Supreme Court is not as uneducated and cruel as you people are. The man does not get out because he was mentally ill! He is incarcerated at a place that keeps him from hurting any other inmates or guards. Use your brains please and think this over before making wild and unintelligent commentary. Prison vs. High Security Mental Facility. Not really going free, now is it? In prison the mentally ill can hurt others (guards, doctors, teachers, other inmates.) Society has failed this man on some level and there is blame to go around. Where were the mental health services? Where was the prenatal care? Where were the teachers? Where were the parents? He is most certainly at fault, but we should try and focus on prevention of this sort of thing and not punishment by means that costs tons of money and is statistically proven to increase crime (the death penalty, folks - do a search online and read the facts.) Your taxpayer money is not well spent by appeal after appeal after appeal for a death penalty case. Send him to the lock down mental prison and be done with it. Keep others safe from him and keep the tax money free to try and prevent this sort of thing.
Mom of LowerLake Student

San Mateo, CA

#7 Apr 1, 2008
God Bless the family....my daughter came home yesturday and was so shocked...and i was also that something like this could happen. GOD Bless The Walker family
Mom of three

Turlock, CA

#8 Apr 4, 2008
I can't beleive that you are on here telling people that they are uneducated non christians because they feel that a man that brutaly murdered and destroyed another ones life should be put to death. It is people like you that have caused our world to become so violent because you feel for the criminal. I don't beleive that there is one person in prison that is not mental unless it is a father of children like these that went out and took the law into his own hands and in that case he wouldn't be mental but yet very justified. How dare you come on here and start insulting these people that are greaving for these poor children and their family. I have a feeling that you don't have children and if you do then you are probably raising children that are without disipline and sadly one day might find themselves in the system because every time they do something that is wrong mommy sais that there must be a reason for it. We are so quick to diagnose mental illness now a days. There is no such things as a bad person anymore and so everyone has an excuse for there actions. And please do not worrie about the other inmates getting hurt in prison as I think that should be the last of our worries. I think he is the one that will have to worrie as not to many inmates like child killers and as far as the guards or anyone else at the prisons safty well I think they knew the risks before they took the job. I have a family member that is a guard and he is praying that this phyco is in his prison and getts the maximim sentence that he gave this poor faily and that would be "death."
miss her very much

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Apr 14, 2008
This is shocking to us. She used to sing in church for us.... she was a perfect little angel.... very sweet. She's gone to a better place. Jesus has too many trophies for her shelf.

May the Lord be with your family, Dr. Walker, we'll always remember your work, here, at MV, though, we are far away.
May God Bless and keep your family
ckarmatose

United States

#11 Apr 14, 2008
the man has recently plead not guilty, this is truely a disgrace. I feel the criminal justice system is going to throw the book at him, and the coward has no chance of getting away with his plea of not guilty. I have no sympathy for a sorry sac of human excrement that would thoughtlessly murder a baby and then try to murder her mentally disabled sister because of a total lack whatever.... I wish they could just take the bastard out back of the courthouse and shoot him right between the eyes, like he deserves.
ckarmatose

United States

#12 Apr 14, 2008
jjj wrote:
Wow. People who want to kill the mentally retarded of the world. That is really a fearful thought. You are certainly not Christians. Luckily the US Supreme Court is not as uneducated and cruel as you people are. The man does not get out because he was mentally ill! He is incarcerated at a place that keeps him from hurting any other inmates or guards. Use your brains please and think this over before making wild and unintelligent commentary. Prison vs. High Security Mental Facility. Not really going free, now is it? In prison the mentally ill can hurt others (guards, doctors, teachers, other inmates.) Society has failed this man on some level and there is blame to go around. Where were the mental health services? Where was the prenatal care? Where were the teachers? Where were the parents? He is most certainly at fault, but we should try and focus on prevention of this sort of thing and not punishment by means that costs tons of money and is statistically proven to increase crime (the death penalty, folks - do a search online and read the facts.) Your taxpayer money is not well spent by appeal after appeal after appeal for a death penalty case. Send him to the lock down mental prison and be done with it. Keep others safe from him and keep the tax money free to try and prevent this sort of thing.
How dare you!! You may be entitled to your opinion, but you can't tell someone they are not a Christian because the man who murdered a baby deserves to rot in the most unpleasant place available to man. HE KILLED A F**KING BABY PLAYING ACROSS THE STREET FROM HER OWN HOUSE... A mental institution is a day care in comparison to federal penatanturies. He does not get an excuse. society failed him.... shut the fuck up!! go fuck yourself!!! If that wasn't bad enough the father doesn't want harm to come to the man and has forgiven him. There's Your f**king Christian!! Eat a D**k.
Friendly Neighbor

Chicago, IL

#13 Apr 14, 2008
They are far better Christians than any of us. Yes, God once said an eye for an eye, but Jesus came and said he was the new law. If you are a Christian, a follower of Christ, then by definition, you forgive.

Hate the sin, love the sinner.

Pray for the families.

And please stop dropping F-bombs on comment boards that children are reading.
RIPShortCake

United States

#14 Apr 14, 2008
So, before the "madness" continues, I would like to ask you a question myself. What do we consider mental illness now? What is the price? A child's life? Your own life? What if it had been your daughter? Your sister? Your friend?
What does one have to do to deserve the death penalty today? If one were to attack a government official or murder a member of our government that you so highly revere. They would instantly receive life in prison or the death penalty. But when a child, who could very well have been one of those few people who change the world and make it a better place for YOU to live in, it doesn't matter, and let's just sympathize with her murderer? I don't think so.
Follow my logic for a moment if you will.
Does a mentally ill person who has committed a vicious crime leave the murder weapon at the scene? Do they run home, take a shower, and change their clothes to get rid of the evidence? When apprehended and identified by an eye witness and only survivor of the attack then taken into custody are their first words to ask for a lawyer? Of course not.
A mentally ill person who would deserve to be put in a facility for the safety of themselves and others would not have the presence of mind to do any of these things because they would not understand that they have done anything wrong. Am I correct? Simply by following the logic of course.
Pardon my assumption if I say that you are in fact a law abiding citizen of this country that you hold in such high regard, I would hate to make such a false assumption and have you feel as to be put out.
But if a rapist was to commit a crime that left his/her victim dead would they not deserve the maximum sentence for their crime? Do you believe that anyone is above the law which our government has set for us to keep us and ours safe? Do you believe that a murderer should be allowed to walk among us just because they have claimed to mental illness?
I don't mean to discredit the words that have been written here by those who wish to express themselves and the words that have been released to those that wish to keep us all informed, but do you, or I, or any of us here really know the extent of this man's alleged illness?
We who are so quick to judge and turn the other cheek to the wrongs of this world.
How can you belittle the efforts that this family has put forth? They've struggled so much to cope with such a tragedy and here you discredit everything they've done. Who are you to point out true believers and the hypocrites? Never mistake yourself for perfect if you believe that throwing these words around will change what has happened. But do not dare to say a word against this family when they have tried so hard to help people when obviously it has done nothing to help themselves in return. These are good people who don't deserve your unjust assumptions that merely because that some of us want justice means that these people do not truly forgive the man who tore their souls to the very core but this hateful act of violence.
When you have a daughter, a sister, a friend who is a vital part of your existence please do let the rest of us know so that we can send this "innocent martyr" to your doorstep so that he can be "misunderstood" when he takes someone precious from you. Then we'll see how you feel about the situation. Shall we?

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#15 Apr 17, 2008
Once again can we say God Bless This Family? and do away with the S.O.B, let his fellow convicts do what ever they please with him for what he has done....ALO what was the motive?? I never got that in any article...someone send me a link.

Since: Apr 08

Whole BAY AREA 415, 510, 707

#17 Apr 17, 2008
diduKnow wrote:
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can say plese send me a link. Thought not due to you don't give f@*/1 bla bla .
look up the archives
and to the family I pray with you and i feel at a lost for words. may your daughter rest in peace with the creator.
o no dont look and judge me by my account headline...i give a F%$k about tha Kids "Own LOves The Kids" dont get it twisted and I got the link ha ha!!!....and as i was saying God Bless the family!

Since: Apr 08

Whole BAY AREA 415, 510, 707

#19 Apr 18, 2008
diduKnow wrote:
Well goodmorning to you. far as your link blah blah blah.
get out you glasses and read the find print Under you T.E.O. it reads "I really don't give a F$%k!!!"
LAST WORD; that comment shows how much you care period. no one has to judge you, you made your point to thee coummunity your true feelings on how you feel about apparently everything or life in general!.
extra: Remove the solgan IT'S NEGATIVE!!!!!!!!
OH and don't hate, smile.
Truly its none of your BIDNESS what my slogan says...what i put is mine (bidness)...Get a Life and stay outta mine....there are so many other topics that will absorb this slogan....just so happen this horrible crime took place right here and the victims are a school mate along with my kids...so SDFU u D$%K rider!!! no need to reply u was outta line! ha ha ha

Since: Apr 08

Whole BAY AREA 415, 510, 707

#20 Apr 18, 2008
DIDUKNOW-extra: Remove the solgan IT'S NEGATIVE!!!!!!!!..NEVER ha ha ha take a good look at it thas my last message to u today...I DONT GIVE A F$%K!!!! lmaoooooooooooo C-ya...muahhh!!

Since: Apr 08

Whole BAY AREA 415, 510, 707

#21 Apr 18, 2008
And to everyone else on this post I am so sorry for the rival some jerk just had to open there mouth and "make a statement" this is obviously not the place for that nor the time....My heart still goes out to the Walker Family...God Bless.

Since: Apr 08

Whole BAY AREA 415, 510, 707

#22 Apr 18, 2008
And to everyone else on this post I am so sorry for the rival some jerk just had to open there mouth and "make a statement" this is obviously not the place for that nor the time....My heart still goes out to the Walker Family...God Bless.

*Their* or shal i say HIS/HER? correction

Since: Apr 08

Whole BAY AREA 415, 510, 707

#24 Apr 18, 2008
diduKnow wrote:
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This country was founded on ignorances and guess what? You will make a fine politcian!
Thats all this country needs is another piece of crap on the pay roll!
Last Word; Your solgan don't effect me but if your so proud of your slogan, put your real true name out there for the whole world to see and i just bet you don't have the interity to do so! It is so easy to hide behind your screen type your proud words loud. Because you sound like most cowards, SO I'm waiting to c just how bad you are.
you made me do it....and so with that..why are u so interested in getting to know me...and thas ezactly what u r doing...my topix headline will remain the same smart a$$...lets take this off this thread....this is not the place nor time for u to continue to badger me...so were u wanna go with it??? SDFU talkin to me PLease TY cant u see ppl are mourning a lost here? JERK! get a life..........Sorry Walker family for this interuption from DIDUKNOW....u may have to excuse him...I dont think its all there....GOD Bless you all.

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