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Economic concerns raised over Valley Oaks subdivision

There are 34 comments on the Lake County Record-Bee story from Jan 2, 2009, titled Economic concerns raised over Valley Oaks subdivision. In it, Lake County Record-Bee reports that:

MIDDLETOWN A 380-lot subdivision that will bring more commercial development to the Hidden Valley Lake area is under public scrutiny as the project's environmental impact report is being reviewed.

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phil murphy

United States

#1 Jan 2, 2009
correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't hardester support Comstock in the last election? Now Jim wants to return the favor by helping put Hardester out of business? Can't they have a business district without a supermarket? Is there a potential client waiting in the wings for that spot? Is the idea to help generate tax revenue for the county or to kill-off the economy of Middletown?
Maybe some of those folks who voted for Comstock are having second thoughts now, guess we'll find out soon enough!
Eric

Lakeport, CA

#2 Jan 2, 2009
Well I'm a commuter that lives in HVL and I will only buy something that I need right away from Hardester's. That place is a rip off. I don't know anyone that does their grocery shopping there. I would love to have an alternative place to shop that maybe didn't charge an arm and a leg and maybe actually had a decent selection. And I love living in HVL but hate the HOA. So if Valley Oaks is a true subdivision that you can actually live in peace and not deal with inept security and ridiculous gates that break every other day then maybe I might consider moving into a house in Valley Oaks.
denny

Grapevine, TX

#3 Jan 2, 2009
Middletown is not a ghost town you idiot. You only think that because you are out of touch. What a lousy thing to say about your new district. That's what the area needs, more bad press.
Deek

Kelseyville, CA

#4 Jan 2, 2009
This is the stuff Friedan was writing about in the early 1960s. The stifling terror and suffocation that women felt in their preconceived roles.
Hardisters Porche

Clearlake, CA

#5 Jan 2, 2009
Guess its payed for, real economic development for the Porch dealer in Lake County. My heart bleads for more high prices.
Hardisters Porsche

Clearlake, CA

#6 Jan 2, 2009
Trying to act so Middletown by spelling the Blue car like a friendly Porch - shame on you this is a capatilist society not food for all at a good price Costcoism, oh I mean Communism.
Victoria Brandon

Lexington, TX

#7 Jan 2, 2009
Questions about Valley Oaks will undoubtedly emerge at the January 22 Planning Commission meeting, and in greater detail when written comments are submitted -- in the meantime impacts of a new commercial center on existing Middletown businesses should certainly be considered. BUT Hardester's reaction about the effects on their MIDDLETOWN store is a little peculiar since they already operate a HIDDEN VALLEY branch outlet. The problems faced by massive new residential construction in this shaky economic climate are very real -- let's hope that the Clearlake City Council takes that aspect into consideration when discussing the proposed Provinsalia project, which is far larger than Valley Oaks, and far FAR more questionable from an environmental and planning perspective.
Louie

Apache Junction, AZ

#8 Jan 2, 2009
denny wrote:
Middletown is not a ghost town you idiot. You only think that because you are out of touch. What a lousy thing to say about your new district. That's what the area needs, more bad press.
IF you come from Santa Rosa or Windsor etc. I'd say Middletown is a ghost town
Louie

Apache Junction, AZ

#9 Jan 2, 2009
Eric wrote:
Well I'm a commuter that lives in HVL and I will only buy something that I need right away from Hardester's. That place is a rip off. I don't know anyone that does their grocery shopping there. I would love to have an alternative place to shop that maybe didn't charge an arm and a leg and maybe actually had a decent selection. And I love living in HVL but hate the HOA. So if Valley Oaks is a true subdivision that you can actually live in peace and not deal with inept security and ridiculous gates that break every other day then maybe I might consider moving into a house in Valley Oaks.
I just don't get it....why in the world would do people move into a HOA and then bit%$ about it.
Louie

Apache Junction, AZ

#11 Jan 2, 2009
Hey Eric? I hate to tell you, but HV is getting more and more people moving in from Lower Lake
Unbelievable

Springfield, MO

#12 Jan 3, 2009
Eric wrote:
Well I'm a commuter that lives in HVL and I will only buy something that I need right away from Hardester's. That place is a rip off. I don't know anyone that does their grocery shopping there. I would love to have an alternative place to shop that maybe didn't charge an arm and a leg and maybe actually had a decent selection. And I love living in HVL but hate the HOA. So if Valley Oaks is a true subdivision that you can actually live in peace and not deal with inept security and ridiculous gates that break every other day then maybe I might consider moving into a house in Valley Oaks.
Please do--the sooner the better for all of us.
Unbelievable

Springfield, MO

#13 Jan 3, 2009
Eric wrote:
Hey Louie? Where else in Southern Lake County do you propose I live? Lower Lake? Sorry I don't have a mullet and don't have much of a taste for Meth or Budweiser...
Lower Lake sucks, HVL sucks, Cobb sucks, Anderson Springs sucks, etc. etc. etc. Miserable we all must be to breathe the same air.
Eric

Ames, IA

#14 Jan 3, 2009
Hey Louie, I hate to tell you but you are wrong. We aren't within walking distance of Walmart...
Unbelievable

Springfield, MO

#15 Jan 3, 2009
Eric wrote:
Hey Louie? Where else in Southern Lake County do you propose I live? Lower Lake? Sorry I don't have a mullet and don't have much of a taste for Meth or Budweiser...
Eric---why don't you live in Twin Lakes? They got rid of their HOA. I hear it's paradise there now.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#16 Jan 3, 2009
It would have been helpful to have this information prior to January.

We have room in our house for one.

Room in the heart, room in the house.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#17 Jan 3, 2009
Posted to the wrong thread - apologies to all concerned.
Don

Kelseyville, CA

#18 Jan 4, 2009
imho_in my humble opinion wrote:
It would have been helpful to have this information prior to January.
We have room in our house for one.
Room in the heart, room in the house.
Figures your type is a "share renter". What a loser imho is...
Poe Sage

United States

#19 Jan 4, 2009
Observation of the Bee sees this article insulating plagiarism. It is a rip of the Press Democrat article that was Internet posted On December 23rd.(Below)
Authorities seize 70 lap dogs
Lake County animal control officials deal with out-of-control breeding operation Authorities seize 70 lap dogs
By GLENDA ANDERSON
THE PRESS DEMOCRAT
Published: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 at 4:22 a.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 at 1:23 p.m.
Lake County's animal shelter has been inundated with 70 lap dogs seized from an apparent one-time breeding operation.
The confiscated dogs include Japanese Chin, Cavalier King Charles spaniels, dachshunds, Chihuahuas, Jack Russell terriers and a variety of mixed-breed dogs.
I've posted this so maybe the manager of the Bee will get the message. There is a cover up and apparently were not privy or worthy of the whole info. I posted the PD article on the net directly after i read it and help was dispatched to the shelter in the form of blankets and concern. I DON'T WAIT for politicians like Farrington and Brown, they're concerned about Gardening and spending the public's money on purchasing Mt Konocti, Black Forest Gysers Tour etc... while toxic material and chemicals are being placed next to Kelsey creek, a large volume Eco tributary that leads directly to Clearlake. I act and net work and read. Like the (Grapes of Wrath) someone like me is always here...
The Bee couldn't even get the article and comment post in synchronicity. I knew this would happen as to the hasty posting of the Rec Bee New Years eve like the hang over articles that flowed like jetsam and wine.
imho_in my humble opinion wrote:
It would have been helpful to have this information prior to January.
We have room in our house for one.
Room in the heart, room in the house.
Poe Sage

United States

#20 Jan 4, 2009
Pot growth hurting wilderness
Toxic water, mounds of waste foul public lands where cartels run plantations
By GLENDA ANDERSON
THE PRESS DEMOCRAT

Published: Sunday, January 4, 2009 at 4:22 a.m.
Last Modified: Sunday, January 4, 2009 at 4:22 a.m.
Long after illegal marijuana gardens cultivated on public lands have been cleared, the trash, toxic chemicals and other environmental damage remain.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#21 Jan 4, 2009
Don wrote:
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Figures your type is a "share renter". What a loser imho is...
I posted to the article about the dogs, you DOLT!

We own our property, free and clear, and the taxes are paid.

Can you say the same?

We could give a rat's a$$ less if Hardester's goes tits up.

It's a lousy store, and we hear it's run by Mormons.

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