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“JPR”

Since: Nov 09

Oak Forest

#61 Jun 19, 2012
I have submitted my opt-out form.
But most people will realize some considerable savings from this program.
I have been recommending most just go along with it, i.e. do not respond.
I'm pretty disappointed in the propaganda sent to me.
For one, the financial numbers were inaccurate regarding savings.
And although the city paid a premium for green energy,
The FirstEnergy environmental disclosure shows ComEd's sources of energy.
But theirs is from: "Unknown resources purchased from other companies."
Hardly something I'd be willing to pay extra money for!
Then in terms and conditions:
"FES does not offer budget billing."
But in Q&A, "Your budget billing will not be affected by your participation in this program."
Given that the city of Oak Forest signed the letter, I assumed they at least read it?
For those who go along, some may have to get clarification.

Jim Rossi
[email protected]
06/19/12 14:30
Christine K

Hammond, IN

#62 Jun 19, 2012
JimRossi wrote:
I have submitted my opt-out form.
But most people will realize some considerable savings from this program.
I have been recommending most just go along with it, i.e. do not respond.
I'm pretty disappointed in the propaganda sent to me.
For one, the financial numbers were inaccurate regarding savings.
And although the city paid a premium for green energy,
The FirstEnergy environmental disclosure shows ComEd's sources of energy.
But theirs is from: "Unknown resources purchased from other companies."
Hardly something I'd be willing to pay extra money for!
Then in terms and conditions:
"FES does not offer budget billing."
But in Q&A, "Your budget billing will not be affected by your participation in this program."
Given that the city of Oak Forest signed the letter, I assumed they at least read it?
For those who go along, some may have to get clarification.
Jim Rossi
[email protected]
06/19/12 14:30
I have read the letter that came to my parents house and it sure has a great deal of stipulations that do not make this as great a deal as Mr. Islher mentioned. They will only allow Opt Out Opt In, 2 times before they charge to do that. Didn't Mr. Ishler tell us at the council meeting that the folks in Oak Forest could do it as many times as they wanted? If you are OptOut already, that serves you, so why would you tell anyone to do differently, tha confuses me! If it is a good deal for to tell folks to get into, what am I nort understanding about your Opt Out Choice? My parents don't trust our city patrons to do this or anything else well, so I think I am going to tell them to Opt Out!

Unless you can tell me some great benefit to this, I don't read anything telling me to go along with the city on this!!
Electric

Chicago, IL

#63 Jun 19, 2012
Who cares what any of you posters think? Are you all so arrogant that you actually think you are some kind of a leader or are so smart that people will listen to you. Most people don't know you exist, and you will make no difference in other residents lives. I personally think the aggregation is a good thing, I have carefully read the entire thing and can find nothing that I can't trust. I guess I must be smarter than all of you except Rossi. He is capable of reading every thing about aggregation and fully understanding it. Rossi has other reasons for opting out, but not one of you dummies would understand that either.
Really Happy

Hammond, IN

#64 Jun 21, 2012
Are you so worried about what some post say that you have to demean the posters! WOW, you seem to be a very angry little person! If you don't like what people write don't come to the sight! I think if I read this correctly the person is asking for more information from the man they trust with knowledge about this process. If he has personal reasons for the Opt Out, he is strong enough to mention that! You think it is good, great join up then, some people don't see it as that great understand that is their position! You will not change theirs and they will not change your stance! I see that it is listed though about green energy credits and there is nothing in this packet or letter that tells you where FES will be receiving those from - it just states un-named sources! That in itself does not explain much about this system.

So Mr. Rossi is the person that people trust and you will be joining the Aggregation Group, in year come back and tell us all how that worked out for you!
Blast from Oakforest 1

Naperville, IL

#65 Jun 21, 2012
The negotiated rate with FirstEnergy is the rate. It does not matter to the city one bit if you choose the lower rate offered or if you continue with ComEd. It really should not have anything to do with if you trust the city or not. If you want a lower rate than is offered by FirstEnergy as offered by contract with the city, then go shop the other companies. It is a pretty easy process, and there are a lot of companies offering lower rates, but I have called about 10, and none of them can match or beat the contract the city negotiated. Good luck on your decision. Mine is an easy one, and thank you to the city and Mr. Ishler for all of your work on our behalf.
Blast from Oakforest 1

Naperville, IL

#66 Jun 21, 2012
I just got an email from Alderman Toland, and thought I should post it regarding a scam from another electric supplier. Here it is:

Please see email below and try to avoid another scam. If you have been a victim of this or any other scam, please call the police and/or city hall to see if there is anything you can do.

Pass this on to your friends and family.

Chuck



Dear Mr. Toland,

I want to alert you and the members of our community about the scamming that a certain electrical company did. North American Power called me today saying I would have lower electricity rates and asking me for my account number and address, etc. I was thinking this was about the new agreement Oak Forest had developed and gave them too much information. I got suspicous and said that I wanted to call my city hall before I verified any more information that they were requesting. They kept pressuring me but I hung up. I did go to city hall --to the mayor's office and told them my story. They verified that indeed I had been scammed. Mr. Ishler was good enough to call the North American Power Company. After talking briefly with the representative, I was taken off their list.

I am writing you to help prevent anyone else from having this experience. I found out at city hall that at least 2 other people had had been tricked by calls from North American.

“ain't she sweet?”

Since: Nov 10

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#67 Jun 22, 2012
JimRossi wrote:
I have submitted my opt-out form.
But most people will realize some considerable savings from this program.
I have been recommending most just go along with it, i.e. do not respond.
I'm pretty disappointed in the propaganda sent to me.
For one, the financial numbers were inaccurate regarding savings.
And although the city paid a premium for green energy,
The FirstEnergy environmental disclosure shows ComEd's sources of energy.
But theirs is from: "Unknown resources purchased from other companies."
Hardly something I'd be willing to pay extra money for!
Then in terms and conditions:
"FES does not offer budget billing."
But in Q&A, "Your budget billing will not be affected by your participation in this program."
Given that the city of Oak Forest signed the letter, I assumed they at least read it?
For those who go along, some may have to get clarification.

Jim Rossi
[email protected]
06/19/12 14:30
Not much time to "mail by June 29" either. We received it yesterday. Told my husband just to sign it so I could get it out -- would have taken too long that he actually wanted to read the blasted thing first.

“ain't she sweet?”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#68 Jun 22, 2012
Christine K wrote:
<quoted text>I have read the letter that came to my parents house and it sure has a great deal of stipulations that do not make this as great a deal as Mr. Islher mentioned. They will only allow Opt Out Opt In, 2 times before they charge to do that. Didn't Mr. Ishler tell us at the council meeting that the folks in Oak Forest could do it as many times as they wanted? If you are OptOut already, that serves you, so why would you tell anyone to do differently, tha confuses me! If it is a good deal for to tell folks to get into, what am I nort understanding about your Opt Out Choice? My parents don't trust our city patrons to do this or anything else well, so I think I am going to tell them to Opt Out!

Unless you can tell me some great benefit to this, I don't read anything telling me to go along with the city on this!!
That was my beef too based on info from our alderman. Wait too long and you're stuck with it.
Wally

Chicago, IL

#69 Jun 22, 2012
Blast from Oakforest 1 wrote:
The negotiated rate with FirstEnergy is the rate. It does not matter to the city one bit if you choose the lower rate offered or if you continue with ComEd. It really should not have anything to do with if you trust the city or not. If you want a lower rate than is offered by FirstEnergy as offered by contract with the city, then go shop the other companies. It is a pretty easy process, and there are a lot of companies offering lower rates, but I have called about 10, and none of them can match or beat the contract the city negotiated. Good luck on your decision. Mine is an easy one, and thank you to the city and Mr. Ishler for all of your work on our behalf.
I also have read the materials from this Aggregation company and there are conflicting bits of information on their materials, and as I read these posts it seems other folks feel the same way about this! Mr. Isler's statements are not clearing up these conflicts at all, so everyone will make their own decision that is the only truth to this - I for one don't like what I see so I will make my decision based on that!

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#70 Jun 23, 2012
Wally wrote:
<quoted text>
I also have read the materials from this aggregation company and there are conflicting bits of information on their materials, and as I read these posts it seems other folks feel the same way about this! Mr. Isler's statements are not clearing up these conflicts at all, so everyone will make their own decision that is the only truth to this - I for one don't like what I see so I will make my decision based on that!
Agreed, there are way to many inconsistencies from what was told to us by our elected/appointed officials and whats in the letter from FirstEnergy. Im not going to go point for point, but in addition to what people have pointed out here, Ald Toland stated on the Patch that if ComEd lowers their rates FE will match it. IN the mailing from FE, it says that "In this program, the discount you will receive is fixed, so your price will not change throughout the term of the agreement."

Will the inconsistencies trouble me, my curiosity at the claim saving 40% on my electric bill will keep me in the program for now. I know people in other towns who have aggregated and they say at best you will save 15~20%. So, we'll see if the 40% materializes.

What I would like to know is what did the city receive from FE to sign with them? Other towns have received cash and other have received new city vehicles for signing with companies.

I know I could ask, but im sure I would get the typical response of "Squirrel!" and then they run away.

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