Foreclosed kennel owner gets more time

Foreclosed kennel owner gets more time

There are 26 comments on the WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan story from Nov 19, 2008, titled Foreclosed kennel owner gets more time. In it, WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan reports that:

John Jones made one last, desperate plea to a Barry County District Court judge deciding if he should be kicked off his foreclosed property.

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ima parent

United States

#1 Nov 19, 2008
Sounds like this idiot is running a "Jonesville" for dogs. There is something seriously wrong with this loser! Are they sure his name isn't Jim?
adopter

Wayland, MI

#2 Nov 19, 2008
Having recently adopting one of his pups I think it is a very unfortunate situation, The dogs did seem to be in good condition and the areas were clean. The little girl we took is a real sweetie but a little shy and still adjusting to the noises & people being in a home instead of a kennel. Hard for some to believe but he did seem attached to his pups as tho they were his kids. Not only is he losing his home but also his family & his livelyhood. I would agree he had too many but I do feel for him, he seemed to be a very nice man and I would like for him to know one of his pups is very happy, slightly spoiled and in a loving home.:)
dog lover

United States

#3 Nov 19, 2008
My family has all purchased dogs from him and have been very very happy with the results. everyone that critisms him and his kennel don't know it all. Yeah he might have at one time had to many dogs, but all of those dogs were well taken care and were loved dearly. we were never disgusted by his kennel and it was always well cleaned!
ima parent

United States

#4 Nov 19, 2008
adopter wrote:
Having recently adopting one of his pups I think it is a very unfortunate situation, The dogs did seem to be in good condition and the areas were clean. The little girl we took is a real sweetie but a little shy and still adjusting to the noises & people being in a home instead of a kennel. Hard for some to believe but he did seem attached to his pups as tho they were his kids. Not only is he losing his home but also his family & his livelyhood. I would agree he had too many but I do feel for him, he seemed to be a very nice man and I would like for him to know one of his pups is very happy, slightly spoiled and in a loving home.:)
It's great that you adopted one of the dogs. Sounds like she has a good home. I don't like to hear about a person losing their home,but I guess that's what happens to someone trying to make a buck at the expense of innocent animals.What goes around comes around. He kept breeding these dogs to pay his bills. Now the dogs are having to pay with their lives.
Jo-d

Grand Rapids, MI

#5 Nov 20, 2008
ima parent wrote:
<quoted text>It's great that you adopted one of the dogs. Sounds like she has a good home. I don't like to hear about a person losing their home,but I guess that's what happens to someone trying to make a buck at the expense of innocent animals.What goes around comes around. He kept breeding these dogs to pay his bills. Now the dogs are having to pay with their lives.
I agree with you "ima parent". I think it is in a way some type of animal abuse to keep breeding the animals over and over again just to make some extra money. When there are that many animals involved they are not just pets. There is no possible way they all get the attention and care they need.
What the

Allegan, MI

#6 Nov 20, 2008
My daughter bought a Jack Russell dog (that is what he raises) a couple of years ago. She is very happy with the dog and has nothing but praise for the breeder, Mr. Jones. He was helpful, had clean kennels and healthy dogs. The problem here is not the breeder. It is the fact that he sells the dogs without "papers" at a low price. This makes the other breeders mad because he undercuts them. I wonder if they are putting pressure on local government to put him out of business. By the way, his dogs DO get the attention and care they need.
JMHO

Naperville, IL

#7 Nov 20, 2008
No one can take care of 75+ dogs on their own. NO one. Each puppy needs individual 'me' time, needs socializing, needs vaccinations. Every breeding needs genetic testing (by a vet) before it occurs to try to prevent things like PRA, heart problems, hip problems.

Any litter can be AKC registered and still be a poorly bred animal, with no thought to it's being anything but a money maker.

JMHO
ima parent

United States

#8 Nov 20, 2008
What the wrote:
My daughter bought a Jack Russell dog (that is what he raises) a couple of years ago. She is very happy with the dog and has nothing but praise for the breeder, Mr. Jones. He was helpful, had clean kennels and healthy dogs. The problem here is not the breeder. It is the fact that he sells the dogs without "papers" at a low price. This makes the other breeders mad because he undercuts them. I wonder if they are putting pressure on local government to put him out of business. By the way, his dogs DO get the attention and care they need.
The problem here certainly is the breeder. The resposible breeders you say are mad at him are disgusted by his stupidity and yes,abuse. Over breeding and having unwanted,unsellable pups is abuse! What do you think is going to happen to all those poor dogs? There is no conspiracy going on here. Just a selfish stupid man breaking the law again.
K9 Rescue Parent

Grand Rapids, MI

#9 Nov 20, 2008
Two words: PUPPY MILL

This guy should have never been permitted to re-establish his business after 85 of his dogs were euthanized.

That is NOT the right way to responsibly breed dogs. Puppy mills are a plague and need to be shut down. Thousands of dogs needing good homes are needlessly put down every year. Guys like this only add to the epidemic.

Crossfire

Since: May 08

Grand Rapids, MI

#10 Nov 20, 2008
This man needs to GIVE those dogs and puppies away to any person willing to provide a decent loving home. In my opinion he is no longer in a position to be charging money for them. If he cares about these dogs likes he claims, then money shouldn't be an issue right now. Preventing another mass euthanasia crisis is what he should be concerned with. I pray that he is not using the extra time he has been given to try and sell them. I commend anyone out there who is willing to adopt one of these dogs. If I didn't already have a houseful of pets I would be at his door immediately.
unimpressed

Ionia, MI

#11 Nov 20, 2008
K9 Rescue Parent wrote:
Two words: PUPPY MILL
This guy should have never been permitted to re-establish his business after 85 of his dogs were euthanized.
That is NOT the right way to responsibly breed dogs. Puppy mills are a plague and need to be shut down. Thousands of dogs needing good homes are needlessly put down every year. Guys like this only add to the epidemic.
Agreed! I've always equated the breeding and selling of dogs to prostitution. Breeders pimp their poor dogs and sell the pups for money. That's just gross. There are soooo many dogs and cats that are just waiting to be adopted, and unfortunately millions are killed each year to make more room. And why do they need to make room? Because careless people breed for money, and sell the babies to careless people who think it'll be cute to give little Jimmy a puppy for Christmas - only to find out that puppies and kittens are not toys to be left in a toy box once they've lost their appeal. There's a lot of responsibility that goes along with pets. It goes far beyond food and water. People, please consider pet adoption from rescues or shelters before giving your money to a breeder, and only if you're serious about taking care of your pets, vet bills, medicines, exercise, and all.
Adopter Too

Carleton, MI

#12 Nov 20, 2008
To Adopter
I too took one of his little female pups about 3 weeks ago. She is also a little shy but also a very brave little dog, an absolute joy to have around. She and my other dogs get along very well which was my only fear when adopting her. You have the same feelings I have about John it was obvious that he loved these animals and he just went over his head. We need to consider that the loss of his job, divorce and previous issues cost him lots of money that put him in this situation, these dogs are all he has left. Jack Russells are not quickly socialized and the other dogs taken from him were not given adequate time to see if they could have been adopted. Good luck Mr. Jones and please know that anyone who really knows you knows you are a good man who loves his Jacks.
ima parent

United States

#13 Nov 20, 2008
Maybe the people defending this man need to spend a little time at an animal shelter. "Maybe he has too many dogs,but...".If they see all the unwanted dogs there they will change their opinions .I am the proud owner of a rescued JRT. This breed of dog are independant strong willed inelligent & and so loveable. It's so good to hear from people who have gotten a dog from this man and have had a good experience.Sadly there are too many dogs at his place for this to be a happy ending.I am saying these things because I love this breed and there are alresdy too many Jrt's in rescues
ima parent

United States

#14 Nov 20, 2008
Adopter Too wrote:
To Adopter
I too took one of his little female pups about 3 weeks ago. She is also a little shy but also a very brave little dog, an absolute joy to have around. She and my other dogs get along very well which was my only fear when adopting her. You have the same feelings I have about John it was obvious that he loved these animals and he just went over his head. We need to consider that the loss of his job, divorce and previous issues cost him lots of money that put him in this situation, these dogs are all he has left. Jack Russells are not quickly socialized and the other dogs taken from him were not given adequate time to see if they could have been adopted. Good luck Mr. Jones and please know that anyone who really knows you knows you are a good man who loves his Jacks.
If he loved jacks he would have understood years ago that what he is doing is wrong. I would love to take one of his dogs but I am responsible enough to know that the JRT I have now would not get along with another dog in the house. Who was going to pay for the care and training and recovery of the 85 dogs previously taken from him? obviously not him! Stop making excuses for this guy. He has been using sob stories and excuses for years and it has to stop. Is he now giving the dogs away or is he still making money off them? If he were truly concerned for the dogs he wouldn't be worried about getting paid for them.He would just want to find homes for them. By the way,I think it's wonderful that you took one of the dogs.
dog lover

Allegan, MI

#15 Nov 21, 2008
and i bet none of you that are posting nasty comments about this man has ever been to his property to see just how well his dogs are taken care of. so he made a mistake and had to many dogs at one point, since then though he has complied with the human society and they have been out there monthly inspecting the property and to maintain that he is taking care of the animals. All of you nasty commenters need to get over yourselfs and realize that if you made mistakes in your life that you would not want people talking trash about you! What if you were losing your home and livelyhood? what if we start investing you and find out how you make your living and then take it away from you so that you lose your home and have to live on the street in the cold! Get over yourselfs, no ones lives are perfect.
unimpressed

Ionia, MI

#16 Nov 21, 2008
dog lover wrote:
and i bet none of you that are posting nasty comments about this man has ever been to his property to see just how well his dogs are taken care of. so he made a mistake and had to many dogs at one point, since then though he has complied with the human society and they have been out there monthly inspecting the property and to maintain that he is taking care of the animals. All of you nasty commenters need to get over yourselfs and realize that if you made mistakes in your life that you would not want people talking trash about you! What if you were losing your home and livelyhood? what if we start investing you and find out how you make your living and then take it away from you so that you lose your home and have to live on the street in the cold! Get over yourselfs, no ones lives are perfect.
My issue is the fact that he's breeding at all. It doesn't matter how wonderful he treats them, he's still contributing to the serious problem of overpopulation - for profit. That is wrong in my opinion. You're right, no one is perfect, and it's sad to see this man losing his home. That doesn't change the fact that he's an irresponsible breeder. And regardless of whether or not he's a breeder, he's lost his home because he overextended himself financially. Look around. There are lots of folks losing their homes, but they aren't begging the Courts to be allowed to stay in their homes. Mr. Jones made his bed, and he'll have to pick himself up by his own bootstraps - just like everyone else. It's most unfortunate that innocent dogs have to suffer for it. I hope there are some no-kill shelters out there that can help out.

Since: May 08

Montcalm County

#17 Nov 21, 2008
Having had 85 dogs taken from him in 2007 says a lot. His kennels may be clean and I am sure he loves his dogs. To me, loving a dog is making sure it will only go to a good home, having it spayed/neutered and having the money to give it the best medical care. Breeders are out to make money. Animal control has the responsibility of taking in unwanted dogs and they end up looking like the bad guys when they are forced to euthanize hundreds of unadoptable dogs a year. The real bad guys are those who do not get their pets fixed.
unimpressed

Ionia, MI

#18 Nov 21, 2008
Johans Son wrote:
Having had 85 dogs taken from him in 2007 says a lot. His kennels may be clean and I am sure he loves his dogs. To me, loving a dog is making sure it will only go to a good home, having it spayed/neutered and having the money to give it the best medical care. Breeders are out to make money. Animal control has the responsibility of taking in unwanted dogs and they end up looking like the bad guys when they are forced to euthanize hundreds of unadoptable dogs a year. The real bad guys are those who do not get their pets fixed.
Well said! Little irratates me more than seeing "Free kittens or puppies" in the Classifieds. Haven't these people heard of C-SNIP? Very cheap and safe way to get your pets fixed.
ima parent

United States

#19 Nov 21, 2008
dog lover wrote:
and i bet none of you that are posting nasty comments about this man has ever been to his property to see just how well his dogs are taken care of. so he made a mistake and had to many dogs at one point, since then though he has complied with the human society and they have been out there monthly inspecting the property and to maintain that he is taking care of the animals. All of you nasty commenters need to get over yourselfs and realize that if you made mistakes in your life that you would not want people talking trash about you! What if you were losing your home and livelyhood? what if we start investing you and find out how you make your living and then take it away from you so that you lose your home and have to live on the street in the cold! Get over yourselfs, no ones lives are perfect.
His "livelyhood" should have never have depended on the lives of those dogs! That's why people are so angry about this. I am so sick of the excuses. The end result is puppy mill,unwanted,unsocialized dogs.Yes he did have too many dogs at one time and he STILL has too many dogs,whether he is losing his home or not no one should have this many dogs.The pens are clean,he gave them names Blah,blah,blah...any intelligent,responsible pet owner knows that that is not all a pet needs in terms of proper care.
ima parent

United States

#20 Nov 21, 2008
unimpressed wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said! Little irratates me more than seeing "Free kittens or puppies" in the Classifieds. Haven't these people heard of C-SNIP? Very cheap and safe way to get your pets fixed.
This guy didn't want to spay or neuter his dogs.That would have interfered with his "livelyhood".

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