Foreclosed kennel owner worried about...

Foreclosed kennel owner worried about dogs

There are 74 comments on the WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan story from Oct 30, 2008, titled Foreclosed kennel owner worried about dogs. In it, WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan reports that:

John Jones is in a bind. The owner of Oakwold Kennels is caught up in the economic tough times, and his home was foreclosed.

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Common Sense

Chicago, IL

#62 Nov 3, 2008
Please know what you are talking about before you go spouting off things that are untrue. The dogs and cats that are "adoptable" at PetSmart are animals from local rescues. I volunteer for a local rescue and have spent many Saturday's sitting with a dog that I had personally fostered in my home, or with other dogs that had been fostered by rescue volunteers trying to help the dog get adopted. Trust me, the rescue organizations are not puppy mills. The rescue I volunteer with often has puppies because our director often takes in pregnant dogs or will take in unwanted puppies and pay for the mother (and father if avaliable) to be fixed. All of the puppies are adopted on a strict spay/neuter contract and if you get them vetted at one of our participating vets the neuter/spay is included in your adoption fee.

This guy is a puppy mill, but PetSmart does not allow puppy mills to sell their dogs there on Saturday morning.
jim wrote:
another "puppy mill" that went bad!
Pet-Smart has people doing puupy mill's and it is disturbing to see this happen,
Pet-Smart, encourages people to breed puppies, and then try to sell them at their store on Saturday morning !
They should be ashamed of themselves!
Kay from Caledonia

Hudsonville, MI

#63 Nov 3, 2008
jim wrote:
another "puppy mill" that went bad!
Pet-Smart has people doing puupy mill's and it is disturbing to see this happen,
Pet-Smart, encourages people to breed puppies, and then try to sell them at their store on Saturday morning !
They should be ashamed of themselves!
Businesses like Petco and Petsmart allows RESCUES to hold ADOPTIONS at their stores. One of my JRs is from a rescue that was holding an adoption day at a Petco. You have to fill out lots of forms and speak to people from the rescue/shelter, sign a contract, provide proof of other pets in the home being vaccinated, show proof of having a vet., etc. The fee for the adoption is to pay for the shots, spay/neuter and other vet expenses. The dogs are usually in foster homes, also. Our "Katie" was knocking on death's door - the foster parent said she wasn't coming back to pick her up at the end of the day & the shelter should drop her off at animal control if they couldn't find a home for her that day. The shelter people only told us this AFTER we completed the adoption, so as not to influence our decision. Katie has been with us for 8 months - she has been a real challenge, and a lot of work. However, she is the most loving dog I have ever known! Our other JR is from a Humane Society and the procedure for adoption was the same.
A Jack Lover

Carleton, MI

#64 Nov 4, 2008
I don't know how any one of you can state anything in these posts without knowing the REAL truth. I never knew this man but visited his kennel over the weekend and I have never seen anyone love and care for animals like him. His kennels were clean, the dogs were clean, cared for, fed and loved as well as they loved him. I do believe that he has more dogs than one should but he LOVES those animals. I took home one of the young pups because I have dogs that would not have accepted an older adult dog but they all need homes and I believe the adults would be given away or for whatever donation you would like to make. Those dogs were named and each one perked up to his attention when he called them by name, there was NO poup in the pens and all had food, water and dry housing. I was TOTALLY impressed with his operation and his love for these animals. People continually post how one-sided media can be but then when they choose they pick one side anyway. Judge others and be judged by others, hopefully you can be perfect in everyones eyes as you seem others need to be in yours.
akc champion

Caledonia, MI

#65 Nov 4, 2008
A Jack Lover wrote:
I don't know how any one of you can state anything in these posts without knowing the REAL truth. I never knew this man but visited his kennel over the weekend and I have never seen anyone love and care for animals like him. His kennels were clean, the dogs were clean, cared for, fed and loved as well as they loved him. I do believe that he has more dogs than one should but he LOVES those animals. I took home one of the young pups because I have dogs that would not have accepted an older adult dog but they all need homes and I believe the adults would be given away or for whatever donation you would like to make. Those dogs were named and each one perked up to his attention when he called them by name, there was NO poup in the pens and all had food, water and dry housing. I was TOTALLY impressed with his operation and his love for these animals. People continually post how one-sided media can be but then when they choose they pick one side anyway. Judge others and be judged by others, hopefully you can be perfect in everyones eyes as you seem others need to be in yours.
Sorry, I just don't believe that many dogs can be socialized and cared for properly in numbers that large. I am not saying that he does not love those dogs, but just that there are way too many to really be cared for the ways dogs need to be. There is a lot of work that goes into properly socializing and caring for a litter of pups, a lot. lot, lot.
WOTV viewer

Carleton, MI

#66 Nov 4, 2008
The dogs are socialized and he has runs that they use on a regular basis. If you have ever had a Jack Russell you would know that they are very hyper and sometimes hard to introduce to a new situation without giving them ample time to get used to the change. The fact that they were taken and IMMEDIATELY put down without ever given any chance to adapt or be adopted is not being brought up here. I believe that you are being fed a line a bull to make them feel better for KILLING a lot of dogs that could have lived long and healthy lives. I didn't even find any flea droppings on any of the animals I had contact with (50+). So I hope these cruel and inhumane people can sleep comfortably at night believing they did the right thing because I KNOW they did NOT.....
Jacks

Carleton, MI

#67 Nov 4, 2008
Maybe you couldn't care for that many dogs but it doesn't mean he can't. They are his life, he would feed them, take them for vet care or whatever before he would eat or take himself to the Dr. Not everyone can be that unselfish. I too believe no one person should have that many animals I am not denying that but why did they have to be put down the same day they took them? Oh thats right you are an AKC champion and you don't want any competition in selling yours huh? Two of the four Jacks I have had growl all the time since day one; if you did not know these animals you would think they were mean and not sociable but that is NOT so. My Jacks are so protective of the children they come in contact with. They would stand between an adult and a child if they felt the child needed to be protected. I do understand what you are saying I just wish people could be a little less judgemental of others without personally knowing them and the WHOLE situation.
ima parent

United States

#68 Nov 4, 2008
A Jack Lover wrote:
I don't know how any one of you can state anything in these posts without knowing the REAL truth. I never knew this man but visited his kennel over the weekend and I have never seen anyone love and care for animals like him. His kennels were clean, the dogs were clean, cared for, fed and loved as well as they loved him. I do believe that he has more dogs than one should but he LOVES those animals. I took home one of the young pups because I have dogs that would not have accepted an older adult dog but they all need homes and I believe the adults would be given away or for whatever donation you would like to make. Those dogs were named and each one perked up to his attention when he called them by name, there was NO poup in the pens and all had food, water and dry housing. I was TOTALLY impressed with his operation and his love for these animals. People continually post how one-sided media can be but then when they choose they pick one side anyway. Judge others and be judged by others, hopefully you can be perfect in everyones eyes as you seem others need to be in yours.
Of course the pens and dogs were clean. He knows he going to have people coming to see his dogs.The poor animals that were put down from his puppy mill were so sick it was inhumane to let them suffer any longer!! And would you be willing to pay the thousands of dollars it would have taken to even try to get them healthy? How about trying to socialize over 80 neglected Jack Russell Terriers? Big deal if they all had names! I could give names to the squirrels that come in my yard,that doesn't mean they are my pets. There is a
JRT website that describes this guy as a "lowlife". Responsible breeders do not get themselves or more importantly,innocent dogs in this kind of mess.
Oh Really

Hudsonville, MI

#69 Nov 4, 2008
How about not going into foreclosure if you care for the dogs.
A Jack Lover

Carleton, MI

#70 Nov 5, 2008
The dog with Cerbal Palsey was one that his **** gave birth to, he didnt' take it in. And do you realize how Cerbal Palsey happens...lack of oxygen
Have you ever had a dog have puppies? You can't be there every second and she gave birth earlier than what he thought she was going to, it could happen to anyone. This puppy is an awesome little guy and if I didn't have other dogs and or steps and young grandchildren around I would have loved to have this puppy. This little guy was just a little sweetheart perfect in every way just a little bit shaky. I raised Cocker Spaniels a few years back and had the first puppy mom didn't know what to do and he lacked a little oxygen until we could get the puppy breathing on its own. My new puppy from him is an awesome, brave little girl zipping around and not at all afraid of even my very large yellow lab.
A Jack Lover

Carleton, MI

#71 Nov 5, 2008
JRT website that describes this guy as a "lowlife

Yeah its called FREEDOM of speech. Just like anybody can name anything also anybody can say anything. I know what I saw. You think it would be easy to keep all those dogs and pens clean even if it were for people to stop over (ANYTIME)..??? You keep your opinion and I will have mine and you will not change what I know and what I saw. Sorry you have to be such a negative awful person. I totally agree he needs to stop breeding this large amount of dogs for the sake of these animals but I do believe he is doing it because he loves them and thinks he can do good for them by giving them life when in fact he has taken on more than he can do. Jacks are a hard breed and are not for everyone but people think oh what a cute little puppy but they stay a very hyper dog for a lot of their lives. Small doesn't mean calm and quiet. Before people adopt a pet they need to know if the breed they are thinking about would in fact work for their family situations.
ima parent

United States

#72 Nov 5, 2008
A Jack Lover wrote:
JRT website that describes this guy as a "lowlife
Yeah its called FREEDOM of speech. Just like anybody can name anything also anybody can say anything. I know what I saw. You think it would be easy to keep all those dogs and pens clean even if it were for people to stop over (ANYTIME)..??? You keep your opinion and I will have mine and you will not change what I know and what I saw. Sorry you have to be such a negative awful person. I totally agree he needs to stop breeding this large amount of dogs for the sake of these animals but I do believe he is doing it because he loves them and thinks he can do good for them by giving them life when in fact he has taken on more than he can do. Jacks are a hard breed and are not for everyone but people think oh what a cute little puppy but they stay a very hyper dog for a lot of their lives. Small doesn't mean calm and quiet. Before people adopt a pet they need to know if the breed they are thinking about would in fact work for their family situations.
You have just made my point for me!! I have stated in earlier posts that jacks are not for everyone and too many people get one because they are cute and don't know anything about the breed. There are already too many neglected abused jrt's in rescues. That is why what he has been doing is so wrong. If you truly love a pet you want what is best for it. Is irresposible breeding what is best for these poor dogs? Because of people like you,this abuse and over breeding will continue. I say these things not because I am a bad person. Just the oppisite,I love this breed of dog and hate seeing this happen to them.
Common Sense

Chicago, IL

#73 Nov 5, 2008
A Jack Lover wrote:
JRT website that describes this guy as a "lowlife
Yeah its called FREEDOM of speech. Just like anybody can name anything also anybody can say anything. I know what I saw. You think it would be easy to keep all those dogs and pens clean even if it were for people to stop over (ANYTIME)..??? You keep your opinion and I will have mine and you will not change what I know and what I saw. Sorry you have to be such a negative awful person. I totally agree he needs to stop breeding this large amount of dogs for the sake of these animals but I do believe he is doing it because he loves them and thinks he can do good for them by giving them life when in fact he has taken on more than he can do. Jacks are a hard breed and are not for everyone but people think oh what a cute little puppy but they stay a very hyper dog for a lot of their lives. Small doesn't mean calm and quiet. Before people adopt a pet they need to know if the breed they are thinking about would in fact work for their family situations.
If this guy really thinks he is doing good by these dogs by using them as breeding machines, he may have a mental issue that needs to be dealt with. Anyone who has spent any amount of time volunteering with a rescue or animal shelter knows that there is no sense bringing so many more animals into this world. It seems that he may be playing this game to try and convince more people to hand over their money for a puppy while he still has them. If he wanted to do good by them he would have them spayed and neutered and would find good homes for most of them, keeping only what he can afford to take care of.

I am a huge dog lover and spend many hours volunteering with rescue and have opened my home to foster as well. I would love to have more dogs than I do, but I know that to take on more than the two I have would be doing them a huge diservice because I wouldn't be able to give them the time and care that they deserve. I am sorry, but one person cannot properly care for 100+ dogs, especially if they are being bred. I have fostered pregnant dogs and have been there during the whelping process. It is hard to do when you have just a few other dogs/animals that also need/want your attention, but if there are hundreds that also need care, it would be impossible to give them all the care and attention they need.

You may be just as out of it as this guy is if you think that he is doing this because he loves these dogs and thinks he is giving them the best!
ima parent

United States

#74 Nov 5, 2008
A Jack Lover wrote:
JRT website that describes this guy as a "lowlife
Yeah its called FREEDOM of speech. Just like anybody can name anything also anybody can say anything. I know what I saw. You think it would be easy to keep all those dogs and pens clean even if it were for people to stop over (ANYTIME)..??? You keep your opinion and I will have mine and you will not change what I know and what I saw. Sorry you have to be such a negative awful person. I totally agree he needs to stop breeding this large amount of dogs for the sake of these animals but I do believe he is doing it because he loves them and thinks he can do good for them by giving them life when in fact he has taken on more than he can do. Jacks are a hard breed and are not for everyone but people think oh what a cute little puppy but they stay a very hyper dog for a lot of their lives. Small doesn't mean calm and quiet. Before people adopt a pet they need to know if the breed they are thinking about would in fact work for their family situations.
It would be very hard to keep all those dog pens clean. That's why he shouldn't have that many dogs.!
akc champion

Caledonia, MI

#75 Nov 5, 2008
Jacks wrote:
Maybe you couldn't care for that many dogs but it doesn't mean he can't. They are his life, he would feed them, take them for vet care or whatever before he would eat or take himself to the Dr. Not everyone can be that unselfish. I too believe no one person should have that many animals I am not denying that but why did they have to be put down the same day they took them? Oh thats right you are an AKC champion and you don't want any competition in selling yours huh? Two of the four Jacks I have had growl all the time since day one; if you did not know these animals you would think they were mean and not sociable but that is NOT so. My Jacks are so protective of the children they come in contact with. They would stand between an adult and a child if they felt the child needed to be protected. I do understand what you are saying I just wish people could be a little less judgemental of others without personally knowing them and the WHOLE situation.
Just so you have a clue, I do not have Jack Russels, nor do I breed dogs. I have had one litter in my lifetime. But, rest assured that if I did have any puppies to sell a litter of puppy mill puppies coming out of this guys back yard would not be an competition to mine.

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