Apostle Roberts
Bubba

Young Harris, GA

#285 Sep 9, 2008
Questions wrote:
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Thank you for the information. If they are part of this "church" , this seriously complicates my decision. I now must question their judgement and the TC Republican Party for having so much interaction with this preacher. This could be the wrong kind of change and one that we could come to regret. I am very disappointed.
You would probably be more comfortable with the obumer change.
Asterismos

Jefferson, GA

#286 Sep 9, 2008
Questions wrote:
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Thank you for the information. If they are part of this "church" , this seriously complicates my decision. I now must question their judgement and the TC Republican Party for having so much interaction with this preacher. This could be the wrong kind of change and one that we could come to regret. I am very disappointed.
I have been told that in one of the Republican meetings Kevin Swanson let it be known that he is affiliated with this church but he doesn’t attend much ; evidently he thinks the “Apostle” is too long winded. And, just so you will know, Sarah Palin also attends a church just like this. See, you just thought you were confused beforen now you probably really are.
Asterismos

Jefferson, GA

#287 Sep 9, 2008
Bubba wrote:
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You would probably be more comfortable with the obumer change.
You have fallen into their trap. You have become polarized. You think there are only two ways to view things. You either view things as a Republican or a Democrat. There are no other ways to think. You must be in lock step with one or the other. That is the way they want you to think. If someone doesn’t like McCain then he must like Obama. You are in their box. Get out of their box and think for yourself. I don’t have to like either one of them. I can think that they are both wrong.
Get the facts

United States

#288 Sep 9, 2008
Now who doesn't have the facts she has not attended the church of God since 2002 she now goes to a non denamtional church and besides its not an issue.
Asterismos wrote:
<quoted text>I have been told that in one of the Republican meetings Kevin Swanson let it be known that he is affiliated with this church but he doesn’t attend much ; evidently he thinks the “Apostle” is too long winded. And, just so you will know, Sarah Palin also attends a church just like this. See, you just thought you were confused beforen now you probably really are.
Asterismos

Jefferson, GA

#289 Sep 9, 2008
Get the facts wrote:
Now who doesn't have the facts she has not attended the church of God since 2002 she now goes to a non denamtional church and besides its not an issue.
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You can read about her church on the internet and how the Pastor at the Church of God influenced her. He is of the same cloth as Roberts. She is running for vice-president so her background is an issue. Obama's background was.
FAITH

United States

#290 Sep 9, 2008
So proud of Greg and Lisa. Hes an annointed whatever you choose to call him (apostle or preacher). Instead of beleiving hurtful gossip why dont you people visit Eastgate yourselves??? Upon walking in you can experience what the presence of the HOLY SPIRIT feels like. I would be so afraid to attempt to ruin the name of a man who walks so close to God. This is all uncalled for. Don't you folks have anything to do with your time ? TRY PRAYER IT WORKS Ask God to help you with your confusion.......
Questions

United States

#291 Sep 9, 2008
Bubba wrote:
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You would probably be more comfortable with the obumer change.
You are mistaken. I am supporting McCain and Gov. Palin. I am an independent and try to vote for the best candidate.

I wouldn't vote for Obama under any circumstances. His associations are too troubling. The church he attended for 20 years that teaches hate and preaches against white people is just one reason. He was born a muslim and educated in that faith. His name - Barack - was the name of Mohammed's horse that supposedly took him to heaven. His father and step father were both muslim.
Think About It

Young Harris, GA

#292 Sep 9, 2008
His FATHER did not raise him. He hardly ever saw his father.

His MOTHER raised him and she and her parents were Christians.
today

Norman Park, GA

#293 Sep 9, 2008
Think About It wrote:
His FATHER did not raise him. He hardly ever saw his father.
His MOTHER raised him and she and her parents were Christians.
It is one thing to talk to ones self. It is another to answer. Sorry Russell you are not going to get away with it anymore.
today

Norman Park, GA

#294 Sep 9, 2008
Asterismos wrote:
<quoted text>I believe that both David Rogers and Kevin Swanson are members of this church. "Apostle" Greg Roberts is a regular speaker at the Republican meetings. It is always the same message-take control politically and I am a good preacher.
Tell me it ain't so. I want to vote for a change but not a cult member
Local

Jefferson, GA

#295 Sep 9, 2008
Asterismos wrote:
<quoted text>I believe that both David Rogers and Kevin Swanson are members of this church. "Apostle" Greg Roberts is a regular speaker at the Republican meetings. It is always the same message-take control politically and I am a good preacher.
I think you are wrong on this. I believe neither attend there. I believe they attend other churches.
Asterismos

Kathleen, GA

#296 Sep 9, 2008
Local wrote:
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I think you are wrong on this. I believe neither attend there. I believe they attend other churches.
I have been told that they both attend there by people who know them. Swanson said he attends there.
Asterismos

Kathleen, GA

#297 Sep 9, 2008
One of two videos of Palin's Church.
NObama

United States

#298 Sep 9, 2008
Think About It wrote:
His FATHER did not raise him. He hardly ever saw his father.
His MOTHER raised him and she and her parents were Christians.
If he was sired by a Muslim father and raised by a Muslim step-father, registered in school as a Muslim, studied the Koran and hung around a mosque, even if he never took it seriously and adopted another faith as he grew older, to say that he was "never" a Muslim is stretching it. His Mother and Muslim step father raised him until he was 10 yrs. old. His mother was an atheist. Most phycologists agree that the first 5 to 7 years are formative.
In addition, all of Islam wants him elected.
NObama, NO way, NO how.
Think About It

Young Harris, GA

#299 Sep 9, 2008
Oh, I see. We are all doomed to whatever religion crosses our path in the first five years. I wonder how you would explain the fact that I am not the same religion that I was raised in?

And how come you picked "Muslim" for Obama when he also attended a CATHOLIC school in his early years? Plus the school that you are claiming was "Muslim" was in fact a public school with a mixed group of kids.

CNN studied it and reported that these claims are false.

Try Snopes.com for debunking rumors.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.a...
Asterismos

Texarkana, TX

#300 Sep 10, 2008
The following information may help you understand why Greg Roberts calls himself an Apostle, believes the church furniture can be possessed and teaches their most cherished belief that going to his church will bring you prosperity. It will also explain the ignorance of many of the members about the teaching of the Bible. They emphasize experience over scripture. The Bible is not the most important thing-experience is.

Characteristics of The Third Wave

Term coined by church-growth specialist C. Peter Wagner in his book “The Third Wave of the Holy Spirit”(out of print). The term indicates a movement similar to - yet different from - the Pentecostal movement (First Wave) and the Charismatic movement (Second Wave).
The Third Wave movement is diverse and multifaceted. It has no central authority. Proponents of Third Wave theology do not all have the same views, beliefs and practices.
The belief that objects or places can project evil influence and act as conduits for demonic oppression
Taken in their epistemological implications, the tenets of the Faith Gospel depart from mainline doctrine in their emphasis on what is termed a ‘pragmatic theology’ where the evidence of experience (signs and wonders) is granted doctrinal validity even when explicit scriptural support is lacking (see Wagner 1996:39ff). It is a view that finds its justification in its empirical effects:
Elaborations on these themes appear in the Prosperity Gospel, where material prosperity is seen not merely as proof of the Spirit’s activity, but as entitlements that believers may claim, and yet another form is the Deliverance Gospel, in which believers are delivered from the power of satanic forces that may have compromised or ‘blocked’ their well-being
Third Wave Worship Services.
The first thirty minutes are given to nonstop singing accompanied by a high powered rock band
Then the audience is fired up with a typical high energy Pentecostal sermon. The audience by then is spellbound and fully charged for the "Signs and Wonders" session. They have come to behold the supernatural at work-where the blind see, the deaf hear, the lame walk, demons exorcised, and the dead raised
The only reason why the "Third Wave" movement is of interest to the churches of Christ lies solely in the fact that Gary Holloway and Michael Weed have proposed it as a replacement model for the apostolic church.
oprah

United States

#301 Sep 10, 2008
Majority of folds in towns county are racist bored backwoods judgemental devils............ Get a life
Asterismos

Texarkana, TX

#302 Sep 10, 2008
A footnote on the importance of experience at Eastgate. You will notice that the members never attempt to explain their views or even acknowledge them. Their one reply to any questions is to come and EXPERIENCE Eastgate for yourself. They can’t defend it scripturally because the services are experience centered rather than Bible centered. That doesn’t mean the Bible is not mentioned. It is just not the preeminent aspect of their services. Preeminence is placed on experience.
TC Citizen

United States

#303 Sep 10, 2008
Asterismos wrote:
A footnote on the importance of experience at Eastgate. You will notice that the members never attempt to explain their views or even acknowledge them. Their one reply to any questions is to come and EXPERIENCE Eastgate for yourself. They can’t defend it scripturally because the services are experience centered rather than Bible centered. That doesn’t mean the Bible is not mentioned. It is just not the preeminent aspect of their services. Preeminence is placed on experience.
I agree. The focus appears to be on the experience i.e "the Apostle" rather than the Bible and God. I must question the motivation of those attending this church that are seeking public office. I have read that he has spoken at Republican events and encourages his members to become involved in public office. How will this translate to how the offices are managed if either win? Will it result in a de-facto election of the "apostle"? I admit that I find this troubling.
Asterismos

Texarkana, TX

#304 Sep 10, 2008
The following will help you understand the heavy involvement of this Church in the Republican party here. It is important to note that Sarah Palin is also a part of this same movement. I am not taking political sides, I am just stating facts. Note: The leaders are called “Apostles” and “Prophets”.

The Third Wave of the Holy Spirit or the New Apostolic Reformation. The movement is training a young "Joel's Army" to take dominion over the United States and the world...

The Third Wave is a revival of the theology of the Latter Rain tent revivals of the 1950s and 1960s led by William Branham and others. It is based on the idea that in the end times there will be an outpouring of supernatural powers on a group of Christians that will take authority over the existing church and the world. The believing Christians of the world will be reorganized under the Fivefold Ministry and the church restructured under the authority of Prophets and Apostles and others anointed by God. The young generation will form "Joel's Army" to rise up and battle evil and retake the earth for God

The Third Wave is one of the largest movements in Dominionism, a group of theologies
that promote taking "dominion" over the social and governmental functions of the U.S. and the world.

The beliefs and manifestations of the movement include the use of 'strategic level spiritual warfare' to expel territorial demons from American and world cities.

This explains the attitude of "Apostle" Roberts toward the other Churces here.

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