California Proposition 19: the Mariju...

California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

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Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15215 Feb 17, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>The employees don't make the rules at work. They follow them. If they choose to use and come and get caught in a random test and be fired for that choice they made,so be it. Employees who think they are above following simple rules will also steal from you,lie,and cheat. If they can't be a team member,then they will have to find another team. Companies don't have the time to waste being baby sitters to overgrown kiddies who can't mind.
This debate is about making pot legal not what happens at the workplace. Start a new thread. If they don't drug test our Government like our senators and congressmen, do they have the right to test anyone without reason?
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#15216 Feb 17, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>This debate is about making pot legal not what happens at the workplace. Start a new thread. If they don't drug test our Government like our senators and congressmen, do they have the right to test anyone without reason?
Yes they do!. If a workplace rule exists that the business is a drug free workzone, random testing is normal. If you can't handle that, go elsewhere. A company with clean employees don't need a stoner on the premises endangering the health and welfare of other associates. You may think the move is going to make MJ legal anytime or anywhere but a state level vote cannot force a company to accept dopers and stoners on the premises unless the state wants to get into the business insurance coverage.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15219 Feb 17, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>Yes they do!. If a workplace rule exists that the business is a drug free workzone, random testing is normal. If you can't handle that, go elsewhere. A company with clean employees don't need a stoner on the premises endangering the health and welfare of other associates. You may think the move is going to make MJ legal anytime or anywhere but a state level vote cannot force a company to accept dopers and stoners on the premises unless the state wants to get into the business insurance coverage.
I know they have the right, my question was should they have the right? Like I said before, if a stoner gets stoned the night before vs a drinker, who is more alert the next morning? A company suffers greater loss of health insurance and danger from a sugar addict. I'm not advocating people high at the workplace. But you have a lot of confusion about the dangers of drugs and which one is worse.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15220 Feb 17, 2013
Tim Truhart wrote:
Ricc: A normal person (you are excluded) doesn't suck the smoke from burning sugar deep into their lungs and hold it there until they turn blue in the face. Smoking pot is bad for you.
No one mentioned smoking sugar, I suppose you do. Consuming sugar is much more dangerous then pot.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#15222 Feb 17, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I know they have the right, my question was should they have the right? Like I said before, if a stoner gets stoned the night before vs a drinker, who is more alert the next morning? A company suffers greater loss of health insurance and danger from a sugar addict. I'm not advocating people high at the workplace. But you have a lot of confusion about the dangers of drugs and which one is worse.
The levels of alcohol can be tested by a BAT. MJ is tested positive/negative. YOU know the rules,YOU break the rules,YOU get fired. YOU have a problem with that? If YOU can't handle that,then YOU shouldn't be there in the first place. Oh yeah, did I mention this was about YOU?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15223 Feb 17, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>The levels of alcohol can be tested by a BAT. MJ is tested positive/negative. YOU know the rules,YOU break the rules,YOU get fired. YOU have a problem with that? If YOU can't handle that,then YOU shouldn't be there in the first place. Oh yeah, did I mention this was about YOU?
You seem to be lost in the argument, this is about making pot legal, a less dangerous drug then booze. Not how you should be tested in a forklift job. Believe me, I'm not in that kind of job, try to keep up. Sorry you are stuck in that mindset of a job.
Poleuka

Covina, CA

#15224 Feb 18, 2013
Matter of fact your wrong again with an average like that your going to have to come up with another line of Bull.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#15225 Feb 18, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>You seem to be lost in the argument, this is about making pot legal, a less dangerous drug then booze. Not how you should be tested in a forklift job. Believe me, I'm not in that kind of job, try to keep up. Sorry you are stuck in that mindset of a job.
You can't have a double standard set of rules. If a company is a zero tolerance workplace,then the office workers,production,warehouse,a nd drivers go by the same rules........ZERO.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15226 Feb 18, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>You can't have a double standard set of rules. If a company is a zero tolerance workplace,then the office workers,production,warehouse,a nd drivers go by the same rules........ZERO.
Sorry, I think you are confused, I really didn't want to talk about people on drugs at work. This is about making pot legal. Some things are legal but not legal as in booze, you can't drive and be drunk or work being drunk. If pot is legal, you would have a choice to use it or not use it just like booze or like eating the poisons from the grocery stores. We have a choice to eat the crap at the store, as you can see from any workplace, people are fat from it, which costs the country and companies more money from being sick, from major healthcare costs.
SameOs

Covina, CA

#15227 Feb 18, 2013
Nothing new to report, go away.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15228 Feb 18, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>You can't have a double standard set of rules. If a company is a zero tolerance workplace,then the office workers,production,warehouse,a nd drivers go by the same rules........ZERO.
1. don't work for that company 2. work for that company and obey them.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#15229 Feb 18, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>1. don't work for that company 2. work for that company and obey them.
That's exactly the problem. People for legalization want to be able to use anytime/anywhere and not have to follow any workplace rules because they smoked "legally". They want to overlook the fact that they still show positive in their system.
Wooden

Covina, CA

#15230 Feb 18, 2013
The panel is still out so why are you posting here still?

Since: Sep 07

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#15232 Feb 18, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, I think you are confused, I really didn't want to talk about people on drugs at work. This is about making pot legal. Some things are legal but not legal as in booze, you can't drive and be drunk or work being drunk. If pot is legal, you would have a choice to use it or not use it just like booze or like eating the poisons from the grocery stores. We have a choice to eat the crap at the store, as you can see from any workplace, people are fat from it, which costs the country and companies more money from being sick, from major healthcare costs.
you are brain dead.
MalbarCACA

Chermside, Australia

#15233 Feb 18, 2013
Tim Truhart wrote:
Hey Riccardo La Fagaroni. Does Vacaville Prison know you're out and using again? Go to Dope Fiends Anon. They can help.
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Your choice. If you want to continue your cowardly, yellow-bellied ways that's up to you.

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Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15234 Feb 18, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
you are brain dead.
What's a matter sissy? Can't debate. What do you want? Every cop we have going around smelling for a weed that does little harm and locking them in a work camp? Are you North Korean?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15235 Feb 18, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>That's exactly the problem. People for legalization want to be able to use anytime/anywhere and not have to follow any workplace rules because they smoked "legally". They want to overlook the fact that they still show positive in their system.
Liar, people want it legal like booze and cigarettes, which are much more dangerous. How many died last year from pot? Now compare that with booze. If you don't like your work, quit. Stop whining about being tested, are you an ex con or something?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15236 Feb 18, 2013
Tim Truhart wrote:
Riccardo's job, which is cleaning out septic tanks, can be done even when he is loaded (all the time). The worst thing that can happen to him already has: He gets sucked up the hose into the tank.
What's a matter sissy boy? Can't debate, a little weak in the mind on the subject. Get some help.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#15238 Feb 19, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Liar, people want it legal like booze and cigarettes, which are much more dangerous. How many died last year from pot? Now compare that with booze. If you don't like your work, quit. Stop whining about being tested, are you an ex con or something?
guy, only illicit drug users want marijuana legalized. you drug addicts rant about your rights all the time. but you ignore the rights of those who do not want to be exposed to your marijuana smoke.

one of yours already suggested the compromise of aerosol dispensers. but no, that wasn't good enough for you. you want to have the right to smoke that stuff in our faces.

like with tobacco smoke, we non-smokers took that away from you in all the work places and many other places too.

now, you try to get permission to smoke marijuana in our faces in an effort to bypass the ban on tobacco smoking.

it won't happen.
MalbarCACA

Chermside, Australia

#15239 Feb 19, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>What's a matter sissy boy? Can't debate, a little weak in the mind on the subject. Get some help.
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