Alex Joye Grenier: Bad or Evil??
Who

Caldwell, ID

#179 Apr 12, 2013
see you in a couple years, probably with a different outcome
Who

Caldwell, ID

#180 Apr 14, 2013
BTW, what is the purpose of this thread? Is it a "hate campaign"? "Cyberbullying"?
Who

Modesto, CA

#181 Apr 14, 2013
I think it's funny that you are blaming some supposed ignorance on the part of the judge.
Vortmann is qualified to understand anti-SLAPP...he just didn't agree with you.
And because of his disagreement, he has been labeled by you as ignorant of the anti-SLAPP laws.
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To answer your question, I think the purpose of this thread is to notify the public of your motivations in attacking your family over the internet.
What did the judge call it again? "Personal Animus."
Which is synonymous with "hate campaign."
Which means I was right, and you were wrong. But that's not new-I've gotten used to it.
My name is Who.
Who

Meridian, ID

#182 Apr 15, 2013
Who are you tocking to? My name is Who.

Were with you Alex! Beat em in appeals!!!!!

My name is still who
Who

Modesto, CA

#183 Apr 15, 2013
yawn
Who

Modesto, CA

#184 Oct 4, 2013
Oh yes. I'll be commenting a bit on things I've noticed about Alex and his brain processes here.
I might even make my responses to all other threads on this subject copy here, too.
Got to keep the public informed, you know!!
Who

Modesto, CA

#185 Oct 4, 2013
I think it's funny that Alex is currently throwing a fit because someone on his site is also named Alex, and Alex is demanding that Alex change Alex' name if Alex wants to continue to contribute to Alex' hatesite, but that's neither here nor there.
And here, Alex has no problem trying to nudgle in on my name, which is
still Who to you!
More commentary on Alex' discussion with Nick Bapbka to follow!
Who

Modesto, CA

#186 Oct 7, 2013
Back
to
the
top
Who

United States

#187 Nov 20, 2013
Now.
As the holidays approach, i am still Who.
i am STILL here.
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Dear General Reader:
For the last several weeks, every visitor to topix.com 's front page has been faced with a headline containing the terms "terrible crime" and "Bob Grenier" in the same sentence.
As the internet has no off switch, Bob Grenier has been subjected to a terribly damaging and abusive accusation that is absolutely false.
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While I respect Hon. Vortmann, I respectfully and vehemently disagree that Bob Grenier is a Limited Public Purpose Figure.
Having a youtube page does not a LPPF make.
Having a twitter account does not a LPPF make.
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If Bob is considered a LPPF , this will have a chilling effect on pastors everywhere in the county and state, and such a decision represents a gross intrusion of state power over the wall of separation.
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I am confident the appeals court will agree with me.
My name is Who.
Who

United States

#188 Nov 22, 2013
oops
"...As the internet has no off switch, Bob Grenier has been subjected to a terribly damaging and abusive accusation that is absolutely false..."
should read
"...As the internet has no off switch, Bob Grenier has been subjected to a terribly damaging and abusive accusation that is absolutely false, and this on a 24-hour-per-day, 7-day-per-week basis."
Who

Austin, TX

#189 Nov 24, 2013
Just when you think Alex is out, hepulls himself back in.
Who

Austin, TX

#190 Nov 26, 2013
Dear General Reader,
There are many reasons why it is important to peruse the last few days' participation at michaelnewnham.com to get a clearer picture of the toxicity that is inherent in Alex' relations with other people, people in fact that have supported his outlandish attempts to smear his father's name.
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I still plan on summarizing his online participation heading in to Thxgvng 2013, since I believe it is an example of behavior that has lots of explanatory power in generating a pictureof the challenges and conflicts that existed in the Grenier home. I mean, how do you NEGOTIATE with someone as IRRATIONAL as Alex?!
Who

Austin, TX

#191 Nov 26, 2013
BTW
I am not in round rock texas
Who

Austin, TX

#193 Nov 26, 2013
You must know that I despise and have always tried to avoid linking to his hatesite, but it is impossible to continue my story without doing so...
Also, I'd like to add that Round Rock Texas is a very beautiful city, and I consider Michael Dell as a source of inspiration, even though I will never attain his stature. That dude is awesome.
Who

Austin, TX

#194 Nov 26, 2013
Where to begin? Just read michaelnewnham.com threads leading in to Thanksgiving 2013 to get a flavor of what interpersonal communication is like with Alex. Read the conversations that Alex has with Josh the Baptist, especially.
Alex there regularly shows his duplicitous and manipulative behavior, his putting of words into others' mouths, his misrepresentations of the facts which always unsurprisingly err on the side of building his narrative.
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Sometimes there are divisions between people that are difficult and/or impossible to reconcile.
I believe we are far beyond that point. In fact I believe the division existed before I ever posted.
My name is Who.
Who

Austin, TX

#196 Nov 26, 2013
Alex says
"...Following are my responses: I don’t run from questions or criticism...."
Who says
This is patently false. You have avoided several of MY direct questions, and you have a history that I have seen on the internet of doing precisely that...running from questions or criticism.
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The question I have is, does Alex' behavior contribute to a debate on some matter of public interest? Alex is seeking first amendment protection, and such protection can only be afforded if Alex is engaged in a debate on some matter of public interest, or if he is engaged in a discussion of some matter of public interest.
Does Alex accept and behave according to accepted principles of public discussion?
One such principle is the principle of charity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_cha...
It is my position that since Alex regularly ignores accepted principles of public discussion, his words do not deserve First Amendment protection, especially since his words are causing damage to the lives of those he has chosen to target.
Alex says
"...and Camp Bob Grenier of Calvary Chapel do have many supporters..."
Who says
If he has many supporters, they haven't bothered posting at topix.com . They must just trust Who to deal with it!
Alex says
"...who see Bob as a victim and not a perpetrator...."
Who says
Yes, that is the exact center of the lawsuit. Bob is a victim of defamation. You act like this is some matter of controversy in which peoples' positions are determined by their personal connections, rather than peoples' positions (such as my own) being driven by respect for the rule of law.
Jesse says
"...Hmm, this from the guy that used to beat the crap out of his brothers when his parents were out of town…oh wait, is that too personal?..."
Who says
This is crucial. I have been typing here since June of 2010, and this is the first mention I have ever seen of violent tendencies amongst the brothers. This is highly relevant, and it took Jesse to get it mentioned. Did Alex ever mention it? No. Did police ask him about it? Yes. Did Alex disclose to his sycophants this highly relevant personal history? No.
And had Jesse not mentioned it, you can take to the bank the fact that Alex wouldn't have mentioned it. How do I know this? Because, to THIS date, Alex never mentioned it.
Burying relevant facts to bolster your weak position, Alex? Guilty as charged!
This is what Alex has to say for his omissions.
Alex says
"...Now, me and Geoff…different story. Geoff was a year younger, as you know, and a tough kid (much because of the violent physical abuse by “pastor” Bob in our home…it made us tough). Geoff and I got in a lot of fights. It’s how we learned conflict resolution in the home…something I shared with the Visalia Police Detectives when they asked about that issue when I interviewed with them about the child abuse three or four years ago at the Visalia Police station..."
Who says
The truth is emerging despite Alex' attempts to bury it.
Alex continues
"...Geoff was my equal and then got much bigger and stronger than me..."
Who asks
And wasn't Geoff's growth due to steroid abuse? Is it possible that the difficulties in the family life were caused in large part by Geoff's abuse of chemicals? What IS the best way to discipline a silver-backed fucking gorilla hopped up on steroids again? What page of the parenting manual is that on, again?
Alex continues his blathering
"…and yes, we had some epic fights as male siblings from abusive homes often do. Violence breeds violence...."
Who notes
Not all siblings in abusive environments fight, and not all siblings that fight come from abusive environments. You are explaining your and your brother's proclivities for violence as an effect, when any rational person could just as easily see it as cause. You are pretty stupid, Alex!
Who says
I'm going to 7-11 to get a cocacola.com . Be back in a moment.
Who

Austin, TX

#197 Nov 26, 2013
IOW
IS ALEX ENGAGED IN DISCUSSION OR DEBATE?
My name is Who, how bout you?
Who

Austin, TX

#198 Nov 26, 2013
If he is not (which is easily shown), then the suit moves forward.
This is under the tried principle that your right to swing your arm extends to the tip of my nose.
My name is Who.
Who

Austin, TX

#199 Nov 26, 2013
Well, I guess I'll say more about that later, but there's other stuff to say.
Who

Austin, TX

#200 Nov 26, 2013
There are other complications to deal with, even though Amy's visit to Jesse's brother's funeral is germaine to the case before the court, but I'll just have to leave that to later.

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