Alex Joye Grenier: Bad or Evil??
DD Huge Phat Girl

Hanford, CA

#159 Mar 28, 2013
Who wrote:
Interesting post at michaelnewnham.com
poster says
Talk to me about post #325 says:
March 27, 2013 at 11:01 pm
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Alex, Iím curious to know who told you that the judge called the evidence against Bob appalling. Unlike you, I was in the court room and the judge clearly stated that he read through the thousands of posts presented by Bobís attorney and was appalled by the comments made about your mom. Your source is clearly telling you his or her own spin on what the judge said. You may want to get your insider news from a different source because whoever you are getting it from has poor reporting skills and is flat out lying to you. I like what goes on at this website and appreciate the many discussions that take place and the different denominations that interact and discuss the bible. It is healthy and can be very informative . I just think to have a proper discussion you need to present accurate facts. I also like how you said bob had an entourage of people in court including officers in civilian clothes, i found that last bit quite funny and quite untrue. Again, please stick to accurate reporting because the facts you were presented with are inaccurate at best. Carry on with your discussion as I will not be responding to any questions or posting on this site again. I just think, again, you shouldnít post things as truth when your source is not telling you the truth. I guess itís not as fun to do it that way though. Your crew can now pick this apart and respond defensively and longwindedly. I just think the people on Phoenix preacher deserve the facts. Post your inaccurate facts on ccabuse. It tends to motivate your following there much more than on this website. Iím sorry for interrupting and hopefully I havenít spoken out of place. God bless you all
Who says
I completely agree!
More lies from camp Bob. The judge spoke directly to the defense attorney about the mountain of evidence that was presented by them and said that he was apauled by what he read. Which has nothing about gayle in it.

Your fax are easily disproven.
So boring.
Yawn.
DD Huge Phat Girl

Hanford, CA

#160 Mar 28, 2013
Here's some truth for you.
Paul Grenier wrote this in a declaration in a case brought by the same people who are attacking their son Alex here also. An evil cult called Calvary Chapel Visalia where they worship their cult leader ,the man Bob written about by his son below.

"Bob did, in fact, molest me. These are extremely humiliating and painful events to be forced to share publicly, but I am left with no other choice at this point since Bob has filed this lawsuit against Alex and while I would prefer not to be involved, I will in no way let Alex's name be tarnished for telling the truth.

Bob began sexually molesting me at the age of five years old. These episodes began in the small shower in the bathroom that adjoined his and Gayle's master bedroom. These abuses started with me being forced to shower with him naked against my will.

First, I was extremely uncomfortable and always had been by Bob walking around nude in front of me with his genitals exposed. And I knew inside of me at five years old that there was something wrong with having to take a shower with Bob. I knew that this type of behavior did not occur in the homes of my friends even at a young age.

The showers started with Bob washing me with soap and touching my genitals and my anus. I recall at least six occasions where Bob would insert his index finger inside my anus in what he would describe "to make sure I was clean." Bob would also have me wash his genitals wherein he would be in a sexually aroused state during these episodes and at times he would not.

On two occasions I was forced to perform oral sex on Bob. Typical to the combination of physical and sexual abuse I endured at Bob's hands, these showers would involve scalding hot water and I remember being in pain because of the heat of the water and also scared because of what he was doing to me."
Anonymous old friend

Portland, OR

#161 Apr 1, 2013
I'm very proud of Paul and Alex. They have been brave and bold. I was born and raised in bob's church. I grew up with Paul (and Alex for that matter) and can't think of anyone more honest. Alex and his family, and Paul as well as the other victims are in my prayers.
Who

Modesto, CA

#162 Apr 2, 2013
you says
"...and can't think of anyone more honest..."
Who says
Then you must either
a) be very stupid and/or gullible
or
b) not know that many people.
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Dear Reader,
If you'd like to read how Alex TRIES to argue that the Bible does not explicitely prohibit homosexuality, you can do so here...
http://michaelnewnham.com/...
Start reading around comment 35.
At 10:30 pm (!), Alex was still at it, so much so that he was asking the blog host a question and the blog host just gave up...didn't even bother answering his umpteenth question.
My
name
is
Who.
Who

Modesto, CA

#163 Apr 2, 2013
oops
"explicitely"
should be spelled
"explicitly"
Where's the little spellcheck line when you really need it?!
Thoughts

South San Francisco, CA

#164 Apr 2, 2013
How is Alex the fire starter? Need to pay your attorney?
Who

United States

#165 Apr 7, 2013
Arsonist Alex Grenier.
I believe that Bob has excellent grounds for appeal on the limited purpose public figure portion of the ruling.
Analogizing him to a plastic surgeon for purposes of the suit is not going to stand up against thorough judicial scrutiny.
It is highly unfortunate that Bob had to resort to suit to get justice, but that's what courts are for.
It would be better if Alex Grenier had simply refrained from spouting lies and concocted allegations in a public forum.
I'll post my argument for why Bob Grenier is not a limited purpose public figure later today.
My name is Who.
Jim Jr

Stockton, CA

#166 Apr 7, 2013
Here's some truth for you.
Paul Grenier wrote this in a declaration in a case brought by the same people who are attacking their son Alex here also. An evil cult called Calvary Chapel Visalia where they worship their cult leader ,the man Bob written about by his son below.

"Bob did, in fact, molest me. These are extremely humiliating and painful events to be forced to share publicly, but I am left with no other choice at this point since Bob has filed this lawsuit against Alex and while I would prefer not to be involved, I will in no way let Alex's name be tarnished for telling the truth.

Bob began sexually molesting me at the age of five years old. These episodes began in the small shower in the bathroom that adjoined his and Gayle's master bedroom. These abuses started with me being forced to shower with him naked against my will.

First, I was extremely uncomfortable and always had been by Bob walking around nude in front of me with his genitals exposed. And I knew inside of me at five years old that there was something wrong with having to take a shower with Bob. I knew that this type of behavior did not occur in the homes of my friends even at a young age.

The showers started with Bob washing me with soap and touching my genitals and my anus. I recall at least six occasions where Bob would insert his index finger inside my anus in what he would describe "to make sure I was clean." Bob would also have me wash his genitals wherein he would be in a sexually aroused state during these episodes and at times he would not.

On two occasions I was forced to perform oral sex on Bob. Typical to the combination of physical and sexual abuse I endured at Bob's hands, these showers would involve scalding hot water and I remember being in pain because of the heat of the water and also scared because of what he was doing to me."

You are delusional Who, Bob will lose again as do most in the appeal process. It will most likely be held in Sacramento or the Bay Area, the back yard of CASP, the defendants firm, who have a 100% success rate in the appeals courts, not just in the bay area. LOL, the ACLU directed the defendants to use the firm who helped create the legislature that led to the anti-Slapp law.

Bob's attorney's did what? Successfully spent the churches money ;)
Let the spending continue. CASP fees are about $1500 an hour and there is well over $100k so far, so by all means appeal. LOL
Who

Modesto, CA

#167 Apr 8, 2013
Really? HERE'S some truth for YOU!!!
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No further briefs in support of or in opposition to the motion have been filed. From the documents previously filed, the court finds that Defendantsí published comments directed at Plaintiffs appear to have been based on personal animus and made with the intent to discredit and disgrace Plaintiff Bob Grenier with the stated goal that he be removed as pastor of Calvary Chapel Visalia. Considering the competing declarations the court finds that Plaintiffs have met their burden to show that it is likely that they will prevail on the merits.
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How does the crow taste? Need a little salt?
I LOVE being right!!!
There is no better feeling!!!!
My
Name
Is
Still
Who!
Who

Modesto, CA

#168 Apr 8, 2013
Mmmmmm.....
Being right tastes soooo
gooooooooooooooood.
My name is Who.
Who

Modesto, CA

#169 Apr 8, 2013
the court finds that Defendantsí published comments directed at Plaintiffs appear to have been based on personal animus and made with the intent to discredit and disgrace Plaintiff Bob Grenier with the stated goal that he be removed as pastor of Calvary Chapel Visalia. Considering the competing declarations the court finds that Plaintiffs have met their burden to show that it is likely that they will prevail on the merits.
Who

Modesto, CA

#170 Apr 8, 2013
aka
hate campaigns
ain't
protected speech.
Score another for Boalt.
My name is Who.
Who

Modesto, CA

#171 Apr 8, 2013
G Major
Not! So!
Subtle, yeeah!...
C Major D Major
Hate campaign manipul-ation!
Repeat 3 x
E minor G Major
If you got a hate campaign you got
D Major A Major
Alex by your si-iiide.
E minor G Major
He gives placebos to the sick, takes the
A Major D Major
canes away from the bli-iiiind!
-
Continue the song in D Major.
Then do it in A Major, and take it through the cycle of fifths.
Wash.
Rinse.
Repeat.
My name is Who.
Who

Modesto, CA

#172 Apr 8, 2013
I wonder why Alex has not updated his readers at his hatesite with the news of his impending loss and his 100,000 tab with his 1,500 per hour lawyers.
I.
Beat.
The ACLU.
My name is Who.
How about you?!
Who

Modesto, CA

#173 Apr 8, 2013
There is no better felling than the feeling you get when you are proven right.
Alex THINKS he knows what that feels like.
Alex TELLS everyone he knows what that feels like.
In this matter, Alex has NEVER been right, despite his assertions to the contrary.
California anti-SLAPP Project and Counsel Clifford,
meet hate campaign.
Courtesy of Who.
Who

Modesto, CA

#174 Apr 8, 2013
Who wrote:
I'll post my argument for why Bob Grenier is not a limited purpose public figure later today.
My name is Who.
Guess I won't be needing to think about THAT one anymore, huh?! hehehehehehehe
Who

Modesto, CA

#175 Apr 9, 2013
These words just roll off the tongue so well!!!
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No further briefs in support of or in opposition to the motion have been filed. From the documents previously filed, the court finds that Defendantsí published comments directed at Plaintiffs appear to have been based on personal animus and made with the intent to discredit and disgrace Plaintiff Bob Grenier with the stated goal that he be removed as pastor of Calvary Chapel Visalia. Considering the competing declarations the court finds that Plaintiffs have met their burden to show that it is likely that they will prevail on the merits.
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Excellent writing!
My name is Who.
Who

United States

#176 Apr 10, 2013
It's going to be interesting seeing how this is going to play out.
Alex threw out a last "I'm leaving" mini-tantrum at michaelnewnham.com . What's new? He'll be posting over there, using Michael's platform to spew his vitriolic relativism, which is the WORST kind of relativism.
My name is Who.
How about you?
Who

Caldwell, ID

#177 Apr 12, 2013
LOL on the victory lap. Looks like the ruling is being appealed. It ain't over til the fat lady sings (no dd that's not an invitation to karaoke)

Sometimes the lower courts get it wrong with anti-slapp, happens a lot. Should be very very expensive, but not for who. who? not me that's who.
Who

Caldwell, ID

#178 Apr 12, 2013
there was no actual malice and the ruling seemed to be confused on that issue and seemed to rule on common law malice for some reason even though the lower court ruled that it was dealing with a public figure

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