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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#36215 Dec 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Exodus 33:18-23 (NASB)
18 Then Moses said, "I pray You, show me Your glory!"
19 And He said, "I Myself will make all My goodness pass before you, and will proclaim the name of the LORD before you; and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show compassion on whom I will show compassion."
20 But He said, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!"
21 Then the LORD said, "Behold, there is a place by Me, and you shall stand there on the rock;
22 and it will come about, while My glory is passing by, that I will put you in the cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand until I have passed by.
23 "Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, but My face shall not be seen."
Note;
-Seeing God was a life-threatening danger.
-God used three forms of protection for the radiation;
Behind a rock
Shielded with His hand
Only allowed a partial view (back)
Exodus 34:29-35 (NASB)
29 It came about when Moses was coming down from Mount Sinai (and the two tablets of the testimony were in Moses' hand as he was coming down from the mountain), that Moses did not know that the skin of his face shone because of his speaking with Him.
30 So when Aaron and all the sons of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone, and they were afraid to come near him.
31 Then Moses called to them, and Aaron and all the rulers in the congregation returned to him; and Moses spoke to them.
32 Afterward all the sons of Israel came near, and he commanded them to do everything that the LORD had spoken to him on Mount Sinai.
33 When Moses had finished speaking with them, he put a veil over his face.
34 But whenever Moses went in before the LORD to speak with Him, he would take off the veil until he came out; and whenever he came out and spoke to the sons of Israel what he had been commanded,
35 the sons of Israel would see the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone. So Moses would replace the veil over his face until he went in to speak with Him.
Note; The effect of radiation.
Please explain how a accurate description of radiation's danger, affect and protection appeared in a story about a Alien visiting humans in a fiction book written by numerous authors, distorted by time and translation occurred.
Smile.
mahz wrote:
<quoted text>
Right after you explain how snakes can talk or how a man can live inside a whale for days.
How did that appear in your Alien fairy tale? Simple answer. It didn't. You are just suffering from the delusion that it does. Because your brain doesn't work right.
Ah, so silly obvious mahz...

You can't deal with something that is understandable, so you demand we change the subject to something that isn't.

Here is what exposes your bigotry;

-The Bible is full of things we cannot explain. That perfectly fits the concept of a God.

Bigoted and ignorant people focus on these things and mock them. Purely because they don't like the things in the Bible they DO understand.

- However, it is ALSO full of things we can explain, but have no explanation of how they got in there.

Honest and reasonable people note these and ponder them. They honor the sacred and study the speculative. They are not afraid of things that confront their behavior.

This incident is one of them.

Your denial is exposed in denying a clear description of radiation with only an ad homoan attack on me!

You are a sissy chicken sh/t afraid to face the reality of your brokenness.

:-)

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#36216 Dec 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Not quite...
No greater force for good exists still.
Just a simple fact.
Smile.
mahz wrote:
<quoted text>
Crusades, Cognite Intare, Gott Mit Uns, Inquisitions, Witch Trials, Blood Libels, Jim Jones, Warren Jeffs, David Koresh, Westboro Baptist Church
Just some simple facts.
No greater force for evil still exists.
SMIRK
Without wasting time distinguishing the distortions of your 'list', of course there are examples of those who violate Christian beliefs in the name of Christianity.

The same is true of any belief system. Human brokenness always has taken advantage of good to disguise evil. Wolves in sheep clothing.

A honest handful of legitimate violations is hardly a reason to dismiss the astounding expression of concern and care that goes on every single day in every single community across this country.

Your silly attempt to do so only exposes your brokenness and denial. A blatant attempt to destroy anything in the way of your denial, no matter what the price.

:-)
dweezle

Belleville, IL

#36217 Dec 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Exodus 33:18-23 (NASB)
18 Then Moses said, "I pray You, show me Your glory!"
19 And He said, "I Myself will make all My goodness pass before you, and will proclaim the name of the LORD before you; and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show compassion on whom I will show compassion."
20 But He said, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!"
21 Then the LORD said, "Behold, there is a place by Me, and you shall stand there on the rock;
22 and it will come about, while My glory is passing by, that I will put you in the cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand until I have passed by.
23 "Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, but My face shall not be seen."
Note;
-Seeing God was a life-threatening danger.
-God used three forms of protection for the radiation;
Behind a rock
Shielded with His hand
Only allowed a partial view (back)
Exodus 34:29-35 (NASB)
29 It came about when Moses was coming down from Mount Sinai (and the two tablets of the testimony were in Moses' hand as he was coming down from the mountain), that Moses did not know that the skin of his face shone because of his speaking with Him.
30 So when Aaron and all the sons of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone, and they were afraid to come near him.
31 Then Moses called to them, and Aaron and all the rulers in the congregation returned to him; and Moses spoke to them.
32 Afterward all the sons of Israel came near, and he commanded them to do everything that the LORD had spoken to him on Mount Sinai.
33 When Moses had finished speaking with them, he put a veil over his face.
34 But whenever Moses went in before the LORD to speak with Him, he would take off the veil until he came out; and whenever he came out and spoke to the sons of Israel what he had been commanded,
35 the sons of Israel would see the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone. So Moses would replace the veil over his face until he went in to speak with Him.
Note; The effect of radiation.
Please explain how a accurate description of radiation's danger, affect and protection appeared in a story about a Alien visiting humans in a fiction book written by numerous authors, distorted by time and translation occurred.
Smile.
<quoted text>
Ah, so silly obvious mahz...
You can't deal with something that is understandable, so you demand we change the subject to something that isn't.
Here is what exposes your bigotry;
-The Bible is full of things we cannot explain. That perfectly fits the concept of a God.
Bigoted and ignorant people focus on these things and mock them. Purely because they don't like the things in the Bible they DO understand.
- However, it is ALSO full of things we can explain, but have no explanation of how they got in there.
Honest and reasonable people note these and ponder them. They honor the sacred and study the speculative. They are not afraid of things that confront their behavior.
This incident is one of them.
Your denial is exposed in denying a clear description of radiation with only an ad homoan attack on me!
You are a sissy chicken sh/t afraid to face the reality of your brokenness.
:-)
There is nothing there that is a clear description of radiation dumbass. You are just reading into to it what you want to support you bullshit faith.
non smoker

Frankfort, IL

#36218 Dec 15, 2012
mahz wrote:
<quoted text>Which God? There have literally been hundreds since the beginning of mankind. Every one of them thought the God's they were worshiping were real too. So which one? Shiva? Osiris? Zeus? Ra? Odin? Christ? Allah? Jehovah? Baal? Khrisna? Ahriman? El? Ahru Mazda?
Christ, the son of God, the only true God!
mahz

Belleville, IL

#36219 Dec 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Not quite...
No greater force for good exists still.
Just a simple fact.
Smile.
<quoted text>
Without wasting time distinguishing the distortions of your 'list', of course there are examples of those who violate Christian beliefs in the name of Christianity.
The same is true of any belief system. Human brokenness always has taken advantage of good to disguise evil. Wolves in sheep clothing.
A honest handful of legitimate violations is hardly a reason to dismiss the astounding expression of concern and care that goes on every single day in every single community across this country.
Your silly attempt to do so only exposes your brokenness and denial. A blatant attempt to destroy anything in the way of your denial, no matter what the price.
:-)
In your own words, "Human brokenness always has taken advantage of good to disguise evil."

A more apt description of the Christian religion could not be found.

Those aren't just examples, they are a pattern of behavior that the Christian faith has demonstrated throughout it's history. Christianity was spread across this planet at the point of sword or a gun and you're ignorant of history if you think otherwise.

Standing in the way of my denial? BWAHAHAHA. I'm not denying anything, I'm demanding proof. You see, that's how rational thinking works. You claim there is this magic man in the sky who is all powerful and created everything, yet somehow, even though he is an all powerful and loving God, child leukemia is part of his master plan. I need just a little proof and some rational explanation of why he kills millions ever year with acts of God.

Sorry, but saying "this English translation of a Greek translation of an original Hebrew translation of an Iron age allegorical tale is defacto proof that Moses understood the finer points of radioactive decay" is slightly unbalanced.

You're the one in denial here, bub. Denial about the fact you don't know whether God exists. You have no proof, you only believe it in your heart to be true, with no proof.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#36220 Dec 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Exodus 33:18-23 (NASB)
18 Then Moses said, "I pray You, show me Your glory!"
19 And He said, "I Myself will make all My goodness pass before you, and will proclaim the name of the LORD before you; and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show compassion on whom I will show compassion."
20 But He said, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!"
21 Then the LORD said, "Behold, there is a place by Me, and you shall stand there on the rock;
22 and it will come about, while My glory is passing by, that I will put you in the cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand until I have passed by.
23 "Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, but My face shall not be seen."
Note;
-Seeing God was a life-threatening danger.
-God used three forms of protection for the radiation;
Behind a rock
Shielded with His hand
Only allowed a partial view (back)
Exodus 34:29-35 (NASB)
29 It came about when Moses was coming down from Mount Sinai (and the two tablets of the testimony were in Moses' hand as he was coming down from the mountain), that Moses did not know that the skin of his face shone because of his speaking with Him.
30 So when Aaron and all the sons of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone, and they were afraid to come near him.
31 Then Moses called to them, and Aaron and all the rulers in the congregation returned to him; and Moses spoke to them.
32 Afterward all the sons of Israel came near, and he commanded them to do everything that the LORD had spoken to him on Mount Sinai.
33 When Moses had finished speaking with them, he put a veil over his face.
34 But whenever Moses went in before the LORD to speak with Him, he would take off the veil until he came out; and whenever he came out and spoke to the sons of Israel what he had been commanded,
35 the sons of Israel would see the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone. So Moses would replace the veil over his face until he went in to speak with Him.
Note; The effect of radiation.
Please explain how a accurate description of radiation's danger, affect and protection appeared in a story about a Alien visiting humans in a fiction book written by numerous authors, distorted by time and translation occurred.
Smile.
<quoted text>
Ah, so silly obvious mahz...
You can't deal with something that is understandable, so you demand we change the subject to something that isn't.
Here is what exposes your bigotry;
-The Bible is full of things we cannot explain. That perfectly fits the concept of a God.
Bigoted and ignorant people focus on these things and mock them. Purely because they don't like the things in the Bible they DO understand.
- However, it is ALSO full of things we can explain, but have no explanation of how they got in there.
Honest and reasonable people note these and ponder them. They honor the sacred and study the speculative. They are not afraid of things that confront their behavior.
This incident is one of them.
Your denial is exposed in denying a clear description of radiation with only an ad homoan attack on me!
You are a sissy chicken sh/t afraid to face the reality of your brokenness.
:-)
dweezle wrote:
<quoted text>
There is nothing there that is a clear description of radiation dumbass. You are just reading into to it what you want to support you bullshit faith.
That's your defense?

Maybe this is beyond your 'pay grade'...

Just a heads up, you don't know my faith. I am a redeemed cynic who remains barbarian.

The barbarian makes me a jack 'ass' sometimes, but the cynic inoculates me from 'dumb'.

Smirk.
mahz

Belleville, IL

#36221 Dec 15, 2012
non smoker wrote:
<quoted text>
Christ, the son of God, the only true God!
So the other 80% of the world who is not Christian are all going to burn in hell? Your God is mighty cruel.

Are you sure he doesn't present himself in many forms and offer many different pathways to him, based on the culture you were raised in?

And the Jews, the Muslims and the Christians all worship the same God, they just do it in different ways.
mahz

Belleville, IL

#36222 Dec 15, 2012
How can the son of God, be the one and only true God?

That's two God's. The father and the son. How can he be the one and only?

Jesus never claimed to be the one true God. It is a distortion of his message. He wasn't saying he was a God at all. He said God was his father. He was God's son and you are all children of God exactly like him and could have the same personal relationship. Jesus wasn't God nor did he ever claim to be.
mahz

Belleville, IL

#36223 Dec 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Exodus 33:18-23 (NASB)
18 Then Moses said, "I pray You, show me Your glory!"
19 And He said, "I Myself will make all My goodness pass before you, and will proclaim the name of the LORD before you; and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show compassion on whom I will show compassion."
20 But He said, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!"
21 Then the LORD said, "Behold, there is a place by Me, and you shall stand there on the rock;
22 and it will come about, while My glory is passing by, that I will put you in the cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand until I have passed by.
23 "Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, but My face shall not be seen."
Note;
-Seeing God was a life-threatening danger.
-God used three forms of protection for the radiation;
Behind a rock
Shielded with His hand
Only allowed a partial view (back)
Exodus 34:29-35 (NASB)
29 It came about when Moses was coming down from Mount Sinai (and the two tablets of the testimony were in Moses' hand as he was coming down from the mountain), that Moses did not know that the skin of his face shone because of his speaking with Him.
30 So when Aaron and all the sons of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone, and they were afraid to come near him.
31 Then Moses called to them, and Aaron and all the rulers in the congregation returned to him; and Moses spoke to them.
32 Afterward all the sons of Israel came near, and he commanded them to do everything that the LORD had spoken to him on Mount Sinai.
33 When Moses had finished speaking with them, he put a veil over his face.
34 But whenever Moses went in before the LORD to speak with Him, he would take off the veil until he came out; and whenever he came out and spoke to the sons of Israel what he had been commanded,
35 the sons of Israel would see the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone. So Moses would replace the veil over his face until he went in to speak with Him.
Note; The effect of radiation.
Please explain how a accurate description of radiation's danger, affect and protection appeared in a story about a Alien visiting humans in a fiction book written by numerous authors, distorted by time and translation occurred.
Smile.
<quoted text>
Ah, so silly obvious mahz...
You can't deal with something that is understandable, so you demand we change the subject to something that isn't.
Here is what exposes your bigotry;
-The Bible is full of things we cannot explain. That perfectly fits the concept of a God.
Bigoted and ignorant people focus on these things and mock them. Purely because they don't like the things in the Bible they DO understand.
- However, it is ALSO full of things we can explain, but have no explanation of how they got in there.
Honest and reasonable people note these and ponder them. They honor the sacred and study the speculative. They are not afraid of things that confront their behavior.
This incident is one of them.
Your denial is exposed in denying a clear description of radiation with only an ad homoan attack on me!
You are a sissy chicken sh/t afraid to face the reality of your brokenness.
:-)
<quoted text>
That's your defense?
Maybe this is beyond your 'pay grade'...
Just a heads up, you don't know my faith. I am a redeemed cynic who remains barbarian.
The barbarian makes me a jack 'ass' sometimes, but the cynic inoculates me from 'dumb'.
Smirk.
inoculates you from dumb? You do a good job of hiding that fact.

Smirk

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#36224 Dec 15, 2012
mahz wrote:
<quoted text>
Which God? There have literally been hundreds since the beginning of mankind. Every one of them thought the God's they were worshiping were real too. So which one? Shiva? Osiris? Zeus? Ra? Odin? Christ? Allah? Jehovah? Baal? Khrisna? Ahriman? El? Ahru Mazda?
Belief systems are far more than just religious.

The real question is, how does a belief system explain and deal with the problem of evil?

For instance, why did a broken mind kill 26 innocent people? Why not just himself? What screams like the CT mayor said, "Evil visited our community today."

Your denial of sexual brokenness is a much smaller example, but no less poignant.

:-)

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#36225 Dec 15, 2012
mahz wrote:
<quoted text>
So the other 80% of the world who is not Christian are all going to burn in hell? Your God is mighty cruel.
How does the Bible answer that question?

Do you even know the answer?

:-)
mahz

Belleville, IL

#36226 Dec 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Belief systems are far more than just religious.
The real question is, how does a belief system explain and deal with the problem of evil?
For instance, why did a broken mind kill 26 innocent people? Why not just himself? What screams like the CT mayor said, "Evil visited our community today."
Your denial of sexual brokenness is a much smaller example, but no less poignant.
:-)
You're a pretty egocentric prick to think that my beliefs only exist as a denial of yours.
mahz

Belleville, IL

#36227 Dec 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
How does the Bible answer that question?
Do you even know the answer?
:-)
I am asking not smoker to explain his faith to me so that I can get a better understanding. I'm not trying to explain it to him. Once again, you daftly miss the point.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#36228 Dec 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Belief systems are far more than just religious.
The real question is, how does a belief system explain and deal with the problem of evil?
For instance, why did a broken mind kill 26 innocent people? Why not just himself? What screams like the CT mayor said, "Evil visited our community today."
Your denial of sexual brokenness is a much smaller example, but no less poignant.
:-)
mahz wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a pretty egocentric prick to think that my beliefs only exist as a denial of yours.
Where did I say that?

Are you confusing me with reality?

Smirk.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#36229 Dec 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
How does the Bible answer that question?
Do you even know the answer?
:-)
mahz wrote:
<quoted text>
I am asking not smoker to explain his faith to me so that I can get a better understanding. I'm not trying to explain it to him. Once again, you daftly miss the point.
So you admit you don't know the answer to a belief system you are mocking.

Got more than sex 'backwards', don't you think?

Smirk.
likud

Belleville, IL

#36230 Dec 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Belief systems are far more than just religious.
The real question is, how does a belief system explain and deal with the problem of evil?
For instance, why did a broken mind kill 26 innocent people? Why not just himself? What screams like the CT mayor said, "Evil visited our community today."
Your denial of sexual brokenness is a much smaller example, but no less poignant.
:-)
<quoted text>
Where did I say that?
Are you confusing me with reality?
Smirk.
You have accused me of denial in every post, troll.

You have no material left and are now going to resort to your trusty old fallback of childish games. You put on a good front of intelligence for about three or four posts, but after that you run dry on material and start showing how limited you truly are. It has been happening daily on this thread. You're not too bright.
likud

Belleville, IL

#36231 Dec 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
How does the Bible answer that question?
Do you even know the answer?
:-)
<quoted text>
So you admit you don't know the answer to a belief system you are mocking.
Got more than sex 'backwards', don't you think?
Smirk.
Actually no, the point of my question was to understand more about non smokers religion. Since I'm in an understanding mood and he's not present why don't you tell me what you think the bible says says. So I can get a better picture of what Christianity truly means to you, friend.

SMIRK

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#36232 Dec 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Belief systems are far more than just religious.
The real question is, how does a belief system explain and deal with the problem of evil?
For instance, why did a broken mind kill 26 innocent people? Why not just himself? What screams like the CT mayor said, "Evil visited our community today."
Your denial of sexual brokenness is a much smaller example, but no less poignant.
:-)
<quoted text>
Where did I say that?
Are you confusing me with reality?
Smirk.
likud wrote:
<quoted text>
You have accused me of denial in every post, troll.
You have no material left and are now going to resort to your trusty old fallback of childish games. You put on a good front of intelligence for about three or four posts, but after that you run dry on material and start showing how limited you truly are. It has been happening daily on this thread. You're not too bright.
I simply asked you to point out where I said what you accused me of.

If you lied, simply say so. That would disprove my assertions of your character and set you on a legitimate course.

This is just an ad homoan attack attempting to divert attention from another one of your lies and distortions.

Simple facts.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#36233 Dec 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Not quite...
No greater force for good exists still.
Just a simple fact.
Smile.
<quoted text>
Without wasting time distinguishing the distortions of your 'list', of course there are examples of those who violate Christian beliefs in the name of Christianity.
The same is true of any belief system. Human brokenness always has taken advantage of good to disguise evil. Wolves in sheep clothing.
A honest handful of legitimate violations is hardly a reason to dismiss the astounding expression of concern and care that goes on every single day in every single community across this country.
Your silly attempt to do so only exposes your brokenness and denial. A blatant attempt to destroy anything in the way of your denial, no matter what the price.
:-)
mahz wrote:
<quoted text>
In your own words, "Human brokenness always has taken advantage of good to disguise evil."
A more apt description of the Christian religion could not be found.
Those aren't just examples, they are a pattern of behavior that the Christian faith has demonstrated throughout it's history. Christianity was spread across this planet at the point of sword or a gun and you're ignorant of history if you think otherwise.
Standing in the way of my denial? BWAHAHAHA. I'm not denying anything, I'm demanding proof. You see, that's how rational thinking works. You claim there is this magic man in the sky who is all powerful and created everything, yet somehow, even though he is an all powerful and loving God, child leukemia is part of his master plan. I need just a little proof and some rational explanation of why he kills millions ever year with acts of God.
Sorry, but saying "this English translation of a Greek translation of an original Hebrew translation of an Iron age allegorical tale is defacto proof that Moses understood the finer points of radioactive decay" is slightly unbalanced.
You're the one in denial here, bub. Denial about the fact you don't know whether God exists. You have no proof, you only believe it in your heart to be true, with no proof.
Where in the world yesterday did a Christian kill 26 innocent women and children like an atheist did?

Where in the world yesterday did Christians rape women and girls, and deliberately bomb innocent people like Muslims did in numerous countries yesterday.

Where in the world yesterday did a 'Christian' government beat, enslave, starve and horribly abuse millions like North Korea did yesterday.

Yesterday in all of those cases, millions of Christians sacrificed, gave, prayed and served those very situations.

Just simple reality.

You have a clear pattern of ignorant bigotry.

:-)
non smoker

Frankfort, IL

#36234 Dec 15, 2012
mahz wrote:
How can the son of God, be the one and only true God?

That's two God's. The father and the son. How can he be the one and only?

Jesus never claimed to be the one true God. It is a distortion of his message. He wasn't saying he was a God at all. He said God was his father. He was God's son and you are all children of God exactly like him and could have the same personal relationship. Jesus wasn't God nor did he ever claim to be.
It's called the trinity. The father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. God sent his son Jesus to die for our sins so we can be forgiven of our sins. If you believe in him, you can have salvation and eternal life In Heaven! Amen!

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