First responder unions object to Herm...

First responder unions object to Hermosa Beach's Pier Ave. plan

There are 10 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Jun 7, 2010, titled First responder unions object to Hermosa Beach's Pier Ave. plan. In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

A controversial remodeling plan for Pier Avenue in Hermosa Beach has come under fire from unions representing the city's emergency responders.

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Typical DB

Burbank, CA

#1 Jun 7, 2010
Wow, way to sensationalize a rather mundane story by using "First Responder Unions" in the title, when other businesses and residents are also against the construction. It must be nice to sit at a desk and know that the worst possible thing that might happen to you in a given day is a really bad paper cut. Classic.

Camarillo, CA

#2 Jun 8, 2010
And why didn't they bring this up at the meetings PRIOR to the beginning of the construction?
No doubt this went through Planning Commision and City Council with INPUT from the public and agencies - why didn't they speak up then?

El Segundo, CA

#3 Jun 8, 2010
Yeah, a BIT late to bring it up NOW, construction has ALREADY BEEN GOING ON!?!

Gardena, CA

#4 Jun 11, 2010
James wrote:
And why didn't they bring this up at the meetings PRIOR to the beginning of the construction?

No doubt this went through Planning Commission and City Council with INPUT from the public and agencies - why didn't they speak up then?
These guys are the whiney union reps for the police and fire. Ramirez ? LexisNexis him, he has sued the city more times and lost for stupid stuff than he has made arrests. No doubt he waited until the last minute to ONCE AGAIN "take on the city". He must be little HBPD's Caesar Chavez. Perhaps one day they will rename Pier Ave 'Officer Ramirez Boulevard'.

What worries me more is not only the delay in response to the area fire/police probably go most often but the alternate routes they will take. I'm not looking forward to having police and fire trucks with lights and sirens coming down my street to avoid traffic on Pier Avenue. I would be willing to live with it so they could do their job and ensure others safety.

Rick "Martian", the public works director, is really the one who screwed this pooch. When making his plans he really should have considered emergency traffic and the number of times they must use Pier Avenue.
Screw Unions

Sherman Oaks, CA

#5 Jun 11, 2010
The state is DYING under the debt load from unions. Screw them and their bloodsucking ways.
30-year Medic

United States

#6 Jun 11, 2010
Get over yourselves, unions. Good Gawd!
Sanity Now

United States

#7 Jun 11, 2010
PLEASE stop the insanity of electing UNION OWNED politicians to State and Local office. Our children's future depends on it.

Santa Ana, CA

#8 Jun 11, 2010
How about working on parking issues instead...
Get a clue

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Jul 29, 2010
I remember a similar debate over a street in Madison, WI (E. Washington Ave), which is one of the busiest streets in the city. The traffic was already bad, and the bone-headed mayor decides he wants to "pretty-up" the street by adding land-scaped medians and the like. Lo and behold, the traffic situation got worse.

Oh it looks nicer though. Too bad NO ONE CARES. Most people prefer not sitting in traffic, being able to park, and emergency crews being able to get to, well, emergencies vs. being able to stare at a stupid plant in the middle of the road.

Speaking of parking, this will make the situation even more abysmal than it already is. This is a WASTE of money. People talk all the time about cutting school funding, etc., and here we are spending way over a MILLION dollars to make Pier ave look "nice." Give me a break.

Since: Nov 07

Hermosa Beach

#10 Jul 30, 2010
Actually these protests were made at meetings. & the city decided to put the project up to the voters, who denied spending the money. But, plans had been drawn up (by that architect daughter of a former council member - whom's bill is always about twice what she tells the council when they give the approval to go ahead?); city council members became "owners" of a "construction company"...

And then federal stimuli money was offered for local projects, & despite voter disapproval (nobody wanted a one lane Pier Avenue!) and construction started.

I wrote Jerry Brown about the voter decision, but since the vote had only to do with the FUNDING, not if we wanted the project, nothing could be done.

The council members construction company is no doubt next looking at development of Marineland mobile home park, as there has been a last minute change of the already APPROVED HUD financing for this low income housing area of Hermosa to COMMERCIAL funding. The low income residents will NOT be included in the purchase, but have been given the paperwork to be Section 8 RENTERS. The old bait & switch game. And we know the plans for a high rise parking/shops/condos have been drawn up for 20 years for that previously protected land, until those rights were signed away by residents for the HUD financing!

True greed, as these incumbants all already have voted themselves city-paid (tax exempt)retirement incomes of much greater than the incomes of most of the working or retired Marineland residents.

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