Tar-sands oil standoff brews in Minnesota

The fight over global warming and Canadian oil is heating up, and Minnesota, which gets 80 percent of its oil from Canada, is sitting on the griddle.

[yeah sure]

alright all you environmentalists, why don't you foot the bill for alternative energy? You go ahead and empty your pocketbooks and figure out a better way. Put the grid up to disburse it to the rest of us, while being competitively priced. Don't use any oil based energy or coal based electricity while you do it. Come on you know it alls, hasn't George Soros planned your life all out yet?

[Ms M Manson]

Money, money, money. Need more, money, money, money..........more, MORE!

[Old Oil]

Ms M Manson wrote:

Money, money, money. Need more, money, money, money..........more, MORE!

Yes it's about money and jobs you moron! I am sure thats nothing you know anything about.
The last time I checked we don't have migrating hers of Caribou or Polar bears. Pipeline safety in in the forefront of all operators. If it leaks they are out the MONEY from lost revenue and cleanup, as well as fines. It is in the best interest of the operators to have a safe operation.
P.S. The Black Sands are part of the "alternative energy plan". People have been working on extracting oil from these sands for years and now that they have the technology to do it you people want to stop it.
What a bunch of hippocrites!

[Mr R]

Environmentalists won't be happy until the human race is extinct or we are all living likes it's 10,000BC.

[Choices]

The people who "work" at "nonprofits" like "Fresh Energy" and "Minnesota Center for Environmental Advocacy", or any number of other acronyms - can you answer a few questions?

Who funds your nonprofit?
Do they fund you because they would profit by alternatives?
Shouldn't this be disclosed?
Is a viable economy in Minnesota important to you?
Do you have empathy for a family on a tight budget attempting to hold down auto fuel costs?
Do you believe MN refineries should be here with their good jobs or should we refine everything in TX?
Would you be willing to declare your support for that premium?
Do you prefer supporting Chaves, Citgo, and his dirty oil?
Did you enjoy Desert Storm?
Would you advocate supporting OPEC over Canada?
I've got a few more but start with these.

[badgerone]

To Hell with the tree huggers,pipe that oil in.

[Truth]

Big Environmental is killing this country and Obama and his merry Big Liberal tools are helping the cause. They will not be happy until they control every aspect of your life.

[America North]

Arctic MP left cold by Tories' Beaufort silence

http://www.topix.net/world/north-america/2009...

[Capatilist]

What is wrong with creating millions of jobs with private money?

[Aaron]

Hey, if we don't use the oil China will. So all you enviro nutjobs out there which country is cleaner? Think about it.

[tww]

Have you ever been to China? An environmental disater. We are exporting all our manufacturing to China because the low cost of manufacturing due to zero environmental regulations. Now we are going to allow the Chinese and others to drill oil off our coast and we have to import it back. This is stupidity. Drill here. Drill now.

[Truth]

BP just hit a 5 billion dollar oil strike in the Gulf of Mexico. And we can't get oil across MN. Something is wrong with the people controlling this country.

[Oh crap we sure did]

Truth wrote:

BP just hit a 5 billion dollar oil strike in the Gulf of Mexico. And we can't get oil across MN. Something is wrong with the people controlling this country.

the dems energy policy is this;

restrict/block/litigate

[Tired of it all]

Mr R wrote:

Environmentalists won't be happy until the human race is extinct or we are all living likes it's 10,000BC.

Are you kidding? They lit evil fires with Mother's trees. Carbon emissions. Deforestation.

Then they killed and ate creatures from the forest floor. Now you get PETA upset.

I am sure there would be a group out there upset if they picked berries and nuts from trees to survive on. Just can't win.

I like how they want renewable energy. But if you put up a windmill, that is bad.

Kills birds.
Looks ugly.
Makes noise.
Don't you dare string power lines to them or upgrade the grid work to use the power from the windmills.
Plus it is multiple times more expensive then the fuels power plants currently use.

[IrishMN]

There is a very simple solution to this problem. Renewable energy. No more disagreements about pipelines crossing anywhere.

Wind and solar are FREE. What is wrong with free? Why pay for fossil fuels when you can use wind or solar? It just does not make any sense - other than to line the pockets of Bushco and his friends.

Plus, renewable energy will bring in jobs by the thousands. This is the message our President is sharing with the population. Listen to him people.

[Tired of it all]

IrishMN wrote:

There is a very simple solution to this problem. Renewable energy. No more disagreements about pipelines crossing anywhere.
Wind and solar are FREE. What is wrong with free? Why pay for fossil fuels when you can use wind or solar? It just does not make any sense - other than to line the pockets of Bushco and his friends.
Plus, renewable energy will bring in jobs by the thousands. This is the message our President is sharing with the population. Listen to him people.

Free?

How many acres of land are tied up with windmills? Windmills cost close to 2 million a tower. How many millions of dollars in infrastructure does it take to get the power from the windmills to the power grid? Then you have the environmentalists that are upset at the noise, or if they are killing birds, or they are put up where the wind is the best and that is also the migratory path of birds.

Solar free? How many millions do panels cost? What is the environmental impact to build them? How long will they last? Again, getting the power grid hooked up to them. Keeping them clean so they work efficiently. Also miles and miles of land tied up and useless with the panels set on them.

Plus with Cap and Trade, these machines and panels will be made overseas in China to get by all the regulations and taxes.

FREE MY ARSE.

[five year old]

Irishmn... how's wind and solar power gonna pump gas into my car?????

[Earthling]

IrishMN, Loveland, CO,
Maybe you should change the name of your ISP from Loveland to Lalaland, because thats apparently where your head is.

Wind and solar work, but only up to a point, while you need electricity, there's still a need for fossil fuel to create it when wind and solar can't provide.
The, "magic bullet" of power has yet to be discovered.

Nuclear is great, but all the Ts haven't been crossed or the Is dotted.
The last thing we want to do, is create a bigger problem for future generations than we already are.

[Patrick]

Thank you to the Native groups who are protesting this pipeline. I hope they win. Tar sands mining and the product it creates is an environmental disaster. Stop them!

[oyoboy]

tww wrote:

Have you ever been to China? An environmental disater. We are exporting all our manufacturing to China because the low cost of manufacturing due to zero environmental regulations. Now we are going to allow the Chinese and others to drill oil off our coast and we have to import it back. This is stupidity. Drill here. Drill now.

Crazy isnt it? I cant believe as citizens we all just lay down and let our reps hose us like this. TIME TO TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY! WE DONT HAVE TO STAND FOR THIS!