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MattObleza

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Jan 22, 2013
 

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lets go wrote:
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Well I see you really didn't want to explain your remark.
Just your lame attempt to be funny.
Not much to explain, your wife is a teacher who will directly benefit from the merge that you encouraged while sitting on the Mohawk school board. Makes people wonder if that wasn't your motivation to advocate the merge. How's that for an explanation?
U explained nothing

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#62
Jan 22, 2013
 
MattObleza wrote:
<quoted text> Not much to explain, your wife is a teacher who will directly benefit from the merge that you encouraged while sitting on the Mohawk school board. Makes people wonder if that wasn't your motivation to advocate the merge. How's that for an explanation?
Typical...You explain nothing.

You have demonstrated you have a personal problem that no one cares about. Don't be sad, I'll get you a tissue.

Now try again to explain, type slowly.

I understand she's a teacher, he's a board member. How does a Mohawk teacher benefit from a merger and how does a Mohawk school board member benefit?
fox in the hen house

New York, NY

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Jan 22, 2013
 
U explained nothing wrote:
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Typical...You explain nothing.
You have demonstrated you have a personal problem that no one cares about. Don't be sad, I'll get you a tissue.
Now try again to explain, type slowly.
I understand she's a teacher, he's a board member. How does a Mohawk teacher benefit from a merger and how does a Mohawk school board member benefit?
Please review your ethics pamphlet and conflicts of intrest clauses.
typical

Salt Point, NY

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Jan 22, 2013
 

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fox in the hen house wrote:
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Please review your ethics pamphlet and conflicts of intrest clauses.
Typical...You explain nothing. How would a teacher and board member benefit?

Board members, administrators, teachers and employee of all the school districts have answered questions in public and on the net. There is no conflict.

You have demonstrated you have a personal problem that no one cares about. Don't be sad, I'll get you a tissue.

Now try again to explain IF YOU CAN.

I understand she's a teacher, he's a board member. How does a Mohawk teacher benefit from a merger and how does a Mohawk school board member benefit?
MattObleza

Little Falls, NY

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U explained nothing wrote:
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Typical...You explain nothing.
You have demonstrated you have a personal problem that no one cares about. Don't be sad, I'll get you a tissue.
Now try again to explain, type slowly.
I understand she's a teacher, he's a board member. How does a Mohawk teacher benefit from a merger and how does a Mohawk school board member benefit?
Well... Matty's spouse receives her pay increase after the merge. Matt as a sitting board member benefits from his spouses good fortune. Does that clarify it for you or do I need to write it on crayon for you?
DHB

Herkimer, NY

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Jan 23, 2013
 

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MattObleza wrote:
<quoted text>Well... Matty's spouse receives her pay increase after the merge. Matt as a sitting board member benefits from his spouses good fortune. Does that clarify it for you or do I need to write it on crayon for you?
Petty, petty, petty and loses sight of the big picture. I have no dog in this fight by the way. At the end of the day, the merger is about providing schools in areas where the tax base cannot support a district, such as the entire Mohawk Valley.
There is no financial model out there where each little village can afford their very own school district over the long term any more. You need X to run schools and your tax base brings in y. That's a problem. The issue over matching teachers pay is a minute portion of a larger merged budget (done in corporate America all the time and a cost of merging, hence the state funds) and fixating on it takes your focus off the real issue confronting not only your schools, but your fire departments, your police departments, etc. In order to remove costs from our NYS tax structure, we have to get away from each little hamlet, each little village, each little town having their own administration and their own separate services. That begins with the schools.
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Jan 23, 2013
 
DHB wrote:
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Petty, petty, petty and loses sight of the big picture. I have no dog in this fight by the way. At the end of the day, the merger is about providing schools in areas where the tax base cannot support a district, such as the entire Mohawk Valley.
There is no financial model out there where each little village can afford their very own school district over the long term any more. You need X to run schools and your tax base brings in y. That's a problem. The issue over matching teachers pay is a minute portion of a larger merged budget (done in corporate America all the time and a cost of merging, hence the state funds) and fixating on it takes your focus off the real issue confronting not only your schools, but your fire departments, your police departments, etc. In order to remove costs from our NYS tax structure, we have to get away from each little hamlet, each little village, each little town having their own administration and their own separate services. That begins with the schools.
I am new to this sight but am wondering if Mohawk and Ilion merge will all the teachers be retained or will cuts in that area be considered part of the advantages?
DHB

Herkimer, NY

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Jan 23, 2013
 

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question wrote:
<quoted text>I am new to this sight but am wondering if Mohawk and Ilion merge will all the teachers be retained or will cuts in that area be considered part of the advantages?
I am not a teacher, but most of them are already short of teachers in certain subjects (upper maths, sciences,languages) and while a merger would solve most of those shortages, I am not certain it will cover them all. Part of the poor academic performance issues these schools suffer from are related to a lack of money for teachers in key regents subjects.
MattObleza

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DHB wrote:
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Petty, petty, petty and loses sight of the big picture. I have no dog in this fight by the way. At the end of the day, the merger is about providing schools in areas where the tax base cannot support a district, such as the entire Mohawk Valley.
There is no financial model out there where each little village can afford their very own school district over the long term any more. You need X to run schools and your tax base brings in y. That's a problem. The issue over matching teachers pay is a minute portion of a larger merged budget (done in corporate America all the time and a cost of merging, hence the state funds) and fixating on it takes your focus off the real issue confronting not only your schools, but your fire departments, your police departments, etc. In order to remove costs from our NYS tax structure, we have to get away from each little hamlet, each little village, each little town having their own administration and their own separate services. That begins with the schools.
Yeah, You're right. Everything is petty. Why try saving money when you can continue the bloated union status quo. Same teachers, same administrators that have failed us in the first place. Same bloated increased budgets year after year. It's always the same pigs at the public troth about to reward themselves once again. Nothing adds up to anything. One hundred and fifty teachers and administrators getting raises will never amount to a hill of beans. Not to mention with bigger pay comes bigger pensions.Of course the response is we have the money. When that money runs out, and it will. Who will be on the hook for all the higher wages and pensions at that point? You have the audacity to tell tax payers they are selfish. This has always been a union payday under the guise of "It's for the kids". It's that simple. Does that explanation help you?
Forty Percent

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#70
Jan 24, 2013
 
Cuomo has promised a 40% increase in the education budget statewide. Problem solved. You can all stop hating each other now.
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Jan 24, 2013
 
Forty Percent wrote:
Cuomo has promised a 40% increase in the education budget statewide. Problem solved. You can all stop hating each other now.
Sure thing pal. I have some swamp land in Nevada for sale too.
DHB

Herkimer, NY

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<quoted text>Yeah, You're right. Everything is petty. Why try saving money when you can continue the bloated union status quo. Same teachers, same administrators that have failed us in the first place. Same bloated increased budgets year after year. It's always the same pigs at the public troth about to reward themselves once again. Nothing adds up to anything. One hundred and fifty teachers and administrators getting raises will never amount to a hill of beans. Not to mention with bigger pay comes bigger pensions.Of course the response is we have the money. When that money runs out, and it will. Who will be on the hook for all the higher wages and pensions at that point? You have the audacity to tell tax payers they are selfish. This has always been a union payday under the guise of "It's for the kids". It's that simple. Does that explanation help you?
Dude, there is one HUGE difference.....I pay taxes in school districts where they have merged and I get to witness first hand, more than once, what a merger does for a district and what it does not. You are overly hung up on what teachers get paid. That is the market and their related expenses will naturally be a major part of the budget because that is what schools are supposed to do. Schools cost a certain amount to run and you simply do NOT have the tax base to single handedly afford a school district. Get over it.

You think teachers are so overpaid, get a masters and earn the slot ! Your resentment of teachers and unions blind you to the possibilities. Don't go there...I neither belong to a union nor am I associated with any school district. Outside of the happy valley here, teacher pay is not an issue, particularly when the parents are like educated.

Your poor scholastic performance is another issue related to not having the resources to hire the teachers to teach the subjects
that are measured. This is also grow up time. Your kids need a different education than you did. They need math, sciences, multiple languages, computers in the classroom. Believe me, I run across high school students around the world and it is eye opening how little our local kids are exposed to. You want better academic performance, your entitlement mentality wants it free and it simply is not.
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New York, NY

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Jan 24, 2013
 
School district do you pay taxes in?
More money no results

New York, NY

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#75
Jan 24, 2013
 
This is why your funding was cut and will continue to be CUT.

No bang for the buck.

NY tops in school spending, near bottom on grads

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/no_bang...
dork must b pyschic

Canandaigua, NY

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Jan 24, 2013
 
MattObleza wrote:
<quoted text>Well... Matty's spouse receives her pay increase after the merge. Matt as a sitting board member benefits from his spouses good fortune. Does that clarify it for you or do I need to write it on crayon for you?
I'm guessing crayon's are all you have.

No shht, will all teachers get an increase in pay with a merger or just Matty's wife? How much of a raise?

As I'm certain you are aware with a merger there is an election of new board members.

Those newly elected board members (with or without Matty) by April 2013 will develop a proposed 2013-14 school district budget for the May 14, 2013 budget vote.

Then by July 1st 2013 the new board will begin framing new labor contracts.

Maybe you'd like to call ahead and let the district know who the new board members will be and how the new contracts will read?

You could save us a lot of time.
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I will run for boe and I currently run a 77 million a month business but what will happen is they will not let me on boe cause I run that...it makes to much sense...when you have a person as dumb as a obreza you get what you get....we need people who know how to run a business not cow milk...
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Jan 24, 2013
 
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I will run for boe and I currently run a 77 million a month business but what will happen is they will not let me on boe cause I run that...it makes to much sense...when you have a person as dumb as a obreza you get what you get....we need people who know how to run a business not cow milk...
Common sense wins the day. You don't not need to be a business genius to be an effective board member.

If you are a respected person of the community and a respected business person you'd have equal or a better shot at being elected as anyone else.

You however would not be elected.
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#79
Jan 24, 2013
 
If that's true and anyone who THINKS he/she can help because he/she has good intentions, we are all in trouble.
mohawk vote no

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4 million is a lot of money but it isn't when you have a large school. It won't take long to eat that up after the union buy-ups and extra transportation that more than doubles. Would they merge without the incentive aid? NO! Why? because everything would cost more and you are less efficient. After the money starts to run out we're back to cutting again. Then of course they will close the Jarvis building and move everything to Ilion to save more money and Mohawk's home values plummet further with no school and the neighborhood around the abandoned Jarvis building will be bad as the building will sit vacant and deteriorate. This after 20 million has been spent on it over the past few years.
DHB

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mohawk vote no wrote:
4 million is a lot of money but it isn't when you have a large school. It won't take long to eat that up after the union buy-ups and extra transportation that more than doubles. Would they merge without the incentive aid? NO! Why? because everything would cost more and you are less efficient. After the money starts to run out we're back to cutting again. Then of course they will close the Jarvis building and move everything to Ilion to save more money and Mohawk's home values plummet further with no school and the neighborhood around the abandoned Jarvis building will be bad as the building will sit vacant and deteriorate. This after 20 million has been spent on it over the past few years.
First, an Ilion/Mohawk merger does not produce a "large" school. Larger than you are accustomed to for sure, but not large in the scope of things.

In terms of market value, most of the valley village homes already have little to no long term market value and little to draw new money here. Cutting your way to prosperity clearly has not been working. If small local schools were such a draw, why does your student population keep declining ? Why does it keep increasing for the top 10 ranked schools in upstate New York. None of them are "small".

I fail to see where having one administration vs. 2, one set of teachers vs. 2, one set of transportation vehicles vs. 2, etc., costs more. Operating costs will rise regardless of district size over time, but the problem locally is that it is spread over too small a tax base and too few students. It would not make sense for a private/public entity to have a $15-$20M facility per valley town, why would you think you can do it with schools ?

In terms of the union buy-ups and transportation, there is nothing
outrageous about teacher/administration salary packages or transportation costs for either district. Why would they be outrageous combined ?

You want everything and you want it for nothing....I get that. But I am afraid life will disappoint you. Look at Herkimer......a segment voted not to merge, but now disappears when the $1.3M bill is due. Are they willing to absorb the difference over the long term ? Are they able to ? Probably not. Do you want to be in their shoes ? You are only a year away from that.

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