really

Herkimer, NY

#21 Jan 18, 2013
Please be quiet, all of you. Political affiliation makes no difference in any of this. We are raising our kids in an economically, socially & educationally deprived area as it is & the message we're sending to them now is keep bitching & name-calling? Sad. Meanwhile less than 20 miles away I hear my coworkers talk about community events, school activities & programs, opportunities for their kids, etc. The real difference is the people & their attitudes. Sad that we can't pull together without mudslinging every minute to make even a tiny difference, even if it doesn't save the day.. Go to sporting events around here or attend a community forum. No engagement, people checked out unless they can gripe & grandstand. Sad. Feel bad for our kids.
Heres an idea

Hudson, NY

#22 Jan 18, 2013
Dwarf Nebula wrote:
Thank God the people of Herkimer aren't stuck with this merger. Who wants to pay the extra burden of Ilion School tax when Remington leaves. Enjoy your extra tax load Mohicans when Ilion sucks every dollar out of you. Cosmo will be laughing al the way to the bank.
Why don't you look into thing before you post...AND look like an azzhole??? Just a thought.

Remington's property tax assessment is LESS THAN 1% of the tax base. The Arms pays 50k toward a 25 million dollar budget. It's not an issue.

Ilion and Mohawk will be getting an extra 4 MILLION every year for the next 5 years and a total of over 42 MILLION over 14yrs.

Oh and back to the 50k... that 50k would continue to be paid to the Ilion system if the Arms miraculously pulled out tomorrow.

Don't ask how and they that is? Look it up for yourself dumbfk.
Greedy Teacher

Lynn, MA

#23 Jan 18, 2013
Heres an idea wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you look into thing before you post...AND look like an azzhole??? Just a thought.
Remington's property tax assessment is LESS THAN 1% of the tax base. The Arms pays 50k toward a 25 million dollar budget. It's not an issue.
Ilion and Mohawk will be getting an extra 4 MILLION every year for the next 5 years and a total of over 42 MILLION over 14yrs.
Oh and back to the 50k... that 50k would continue to be paid to the Ilion system if the Arms miraculously pulled out tomorrow.
Don't ask how and they that is? Look it up for yourself dumbfk.
I agree with you pay no mind to these stupids. I want more pay vote for merger mindless people.
csi herkimer

Herkimer, NY

#24 Jan 18, 2013
we are not off the hook in herkimer. well see down the road, what cuts can be made. we cant cut ant more sujects. we are very low on what we offer now. this spring tells a tale of who lied, and who was right. any more the a 2% tax increase and it has to go to us the voters. look at the homes for sale here. you see the people that are moving to herkimer. good luck to mohawk and ilion. well talk more on this in the coming months.
Dwarf Nebula

Utica, NY

#25 Jan 18, 2013
I love these pro merger people when you speak the truth they resort to name calling. This merger thing is a scam. If teacher really cred about kids they would start paying for some of their benefits the taxpayers cant afford them anymore. Payroll and benefits are the school districts biggest expenses. Some people like the easy out by mergers. Don't believe everything the state says about money you wouldn't be in this problem in the first place if the state didn't cut the districts off. 42 million will never happen you may get part of it but not all of it.
Heres an idea

Ghent, NY

#26 Jan 18, 2013
Greedy Teacher wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you pay no mind to these stupids. I want more pay vote for merger mindless people.
Look into things before running you mouth. You sound like the azzholes that hosed herkimer.

A merger does not give anyone a raise.

Try going to a info meeting and get the correct info instead of making up your own.

Meeting is in Mohawk on the 29th and in Ilion on the 31st
Heres an idea

Ghent, NY

#27 Jan 18, 2013
Dwarf Nebula wrote:
I love these pro merger people when you speak the truth they resort to name calling. This merger thing is a scam. If teacher really cred about kids they would start paying for some of their benefits the taxpayers cant afford them anymore. Payroll and benefits are the school districts biggest expenses. Some people like the easy out by mergers. Don't believe everything the state says about money you wouldn't be in this problem in the first place if the state didn't cut the districts off. 42 million will never happen you may get part of it but not all of it.
Teacher income in valley is the lowest around. Utica area schools pay their teachers 10k more to start and you want ours to take a pay cut. Brilliant idea.

It's not up to the teachers to subsidize the school if the state reduces aid. If we want it our way it's up to us to pay.

The state has NEVER reneged on merger monies. They want schools to merge. Make sense?

Try using logic and a touch of common sense in stead of pulling bullssht out of thin air.
lwd

Little Falls, NY

#28 Jan 18, 2013
Heres an idea wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you look into thing before you post...AND look like an azzhole??? Just a thought.
Remington's property tax assessment is LESS THAN 1% of the tax base. The Arms pays 50k toward a 25 million dollar budget. It's not an issue.
Ilion and Mohawk will be getting an extra 4 MILLION every year for the next 5 years and a total of over 42 MILLION over 14yrs.
Oh and back to the 50k... that 50k would continue to be paid to the Ilion system if the Arms miraculously pulled out tomorrow.
Don't ask how and they that is? Look it up for yourself dumbfk.
The problem will now be when 1300 ppl are out of work and have to move away to find work???....Not only will taxes go up 100% if the arms leaves local business will suffer, the real estate market, rental properties all across the mohawk valley...Ilions enrollment will be reduced significantly. This whole merger lies upon nys funding for years to come. Well please tell me what happens when they reduce funding like they have been doing year after year after year? Pay day for the teachers union thats all it is. If this is all about the kids as so many say it is how about admins and teachers take a small pay cut or a minor co pay on health care premiums or are they immune from self sacrifice? Send a message the cash cow is over!
Dork Nebula

Ghent, NY

#29 Jan 18, 2013
Dwarf Nebula wrote:
I love these pro merger people when you speak the truth they resort to name calling. This merger thing is a scam. If teacher really cred about kids they would start paying for some of their benefits the taxpayers cant afford them anymore. Payroll and benefits are the school districts biggest expenses. Some people like the easy out by mergers. Don't believe everything the state says about money you wouldn't be in this problem in the first place if the state didn't cut the districts off. 42 million will never happen you may get part of it but not all of it.
You don't have the correct information, you don't know the truth. You are spreading misinformation and people are sick of it.

Take a shot at using facts, figures and maybe a touch of past practice when offering intellectual argument to support your position.
wrong

Ghent, NY

#30 Jan 18, 2013
lwd wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem will now be when 1300 ppl are out of work and have to move away to find work???....Not only will taxes go up 100% if the arms leaves local business will suffer, the real estate market, rental properties all across the mohawk valley...Ilions enrollment will be reduced significantly. This whole merger lies upon nys funding for years to come. Well please tell me what happens when they reduce funding like they have been doing year after year after year? Pay day for the teachers union thats all it is. If this is all about the kids as so many say it is how about admins and teachers take a small pay cut or a minor co pay on health care premiums or are they immune from self sacrifice? Send a message the cash cow is over!
Buddy, if the Arms leaves that is not a reason to not merge.

If we were to have half of our population leave, we would need half of what we need now to run things.

Every town will be effected if the Arms leaves. Probably all the more reason to merge.
Dwarf Nebula

Utica, NY

#31 Jan 18, 2013
Dork Nebula wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have the correct information, you don't know the truth. You are spreading misinformation and people are sick of it.
Take a shot at using facts, figures and maybe a touch of past practice when offering intellectual argument to support your position.
May I ask what facts do you have. A one sided study put out by a school that wants to lead you in one way of thinking. Studies are not facts just guesses. I see you have nothing to prove but name calling. Typical of people who live in dream land. Yes the state always renegs on deals. That's why the schools are in trouble cuts in aid. Keep with the name calling you sound like a teacher who wants more money.
joke

Little Falls, NY

#32 Jan 18, 2013
if the arms leave ppl will leave. ilion wont have enough ppl to support a bigger school. Can you imagine the tax base then? Foolish move you greedy greedy teachers quite ashamed u should be
joke

Little Falls, NY

#33 Jan 18, 2013
Heres an idea wrote:
<quoted text>
Teacher income in valley is the lowest around. Utica area schools pay their teachers 10k more to start and you want ours to take a pay cut. Brilliant idea.
It's not up to the teachers to subsidize the school if the state reduces aid. If we want it our way it's up to us to pay.
The state has NEVER reneged on merger monies. They want schools to merge. Make sense?
Try using logic and a touch of common sense in stead of pulling bullssht out of thin air.
and we have some of the lowest test scores in the valley but yes lets pay these idiots more its sure to fix the problem...cut the health benefit package hell i wish i could work half the year full benfits and then take a part time job rest of the year...greed it makes me sick!! school officials put your money where your mouth is you take some kind of cut? you want to cut sport programs music etc...well teachers are here for the kids right a 2% health care reduction would solve a lot...teachers union is one of the strongest unions, here lies the problem, not in state aid. Overspending and administrators/pricipals salaries/benefits have been out of control for years!
Dwarf Nebula

Utica, NY

#34 Jan 19, 2013
joke wrote:
<quoted text>
and we have some of the lowest test scores in the valley but yes lets pay these idiots more its sure to fix the problem...cut the health benefit package hell i wish i could work half the year full benfits and then take a part time job rest of the year...greed it makes me sick!! school officials put your money where your mouth is you take some kind of cut? you want to cut sport programs music etc...well teachers are here for the kids right a 2% health care reduction would solve a lot...teachers union is one of the strongest unions, here lies the problem, not in state aid. Overspending and administrators/pricipals salaries/benefits have been out of control for years!
Preach my Brother!!!
wrong

Warsaw, NY

#35 Jan 19, 2013
joke wrote:
<quoted text>
and we have some of the lowest test scores in the valley but yes lets pay these idiots more its sure to fix the problem...cut the health benefit package hell i wish i could work half the year full benfits and then take a part time job rest of the year...greed it makes me sick!! school officials put your money where your mouth is you take some kind of cut? you want to cut sport programs music etc...well teachers are here for the kids right a 2% health care reduction would solve a lot...teachers union is one of the strongest unions, here lies the problem, not in state aid. Overspending and administrators/pricipals salaries/benefits have been out of control for years!
We have the least amount of programs/opportunities to hold a young persons interest. 30 out of a 100 drop out of herkimer yearly.
uninformed it figures

Warsaw, NY

#36 Jan 19, 2013
Dwarf Nebula wrote:
<quoted text>
May I ask what facts do you have. A one sided study put out by a school that wants to lead you in one way of thinking. Studies are not facts just guesses. I see you have nothing to prove but name calling. Typical of people who live in dream land. Yes the state always renegs on deals. That's why the schools are in trouble cuts in aid. Keep with the name calling you sound like a teacher who wants more money.
Click on this and watch the video...
http://www.wktv.com/news/local/175487731.html

Remington's property tax assessment is less than 1% of the tax base. Remington's school taxes is about $50,000 in a district with a $40 million budget. It's not an issue. Herkimer wishes they had a 50k problem.

Also, when a property owner does not pay their school taxes the school district is reimbursed by the county. If they remain unpaid, the county bears that burden, not the school. So, Herkimer County pays whether the districts are merged or not. So it's not an issue.

We have the least amount of programs/opportunity to hold a young persons interest. 30 out of a 100 drop out of herkimer yearly.
When those 30 losers melt back into the community every year it creates a major financial problem for all of us and it's a vicious cycle. Herkimer’s drop out rate is the worst in the valley and Herkimer has been put on notice by the state.

In the late 1990s, Ilion had about 2,100 students. With declining enrollment the combined district would have around 2,400 students. Chances are, with declining enrollment the combined district could be the same size as Ilion used to be in about 10yrs. What's the point? We will have a much more adequately funded system.

December 27, 2012 at
Larry D

Warsaw, NY

#37 Jan 19, 2013
joke wrote:
<quoted text>
and we have some of the lowest test scores in the valley but yes lets pay these idiots more its sure to fix the problem...cut the health benefit package hell i wish i could work half the year full benfits and then take a part time job rest of the year...greed it makes me sick!! school officials put your money where your mouth is you take some kind of cut? you want to cut sport programs music etc...well teachers are here for the kids right a 2% health care reduction would solve a lot...teachers union is one of the strongest unions, here lies the problem, not in state aid. Overspending and administrators/pricipals salaries/benefits have been out of control for years!
Really, a 2% reduction in health care would solve a lot? What are you talking about? With a 2% reduction in health care we could buy half of the students shoe laces.

What does “the teachers are there for the kids” mean to the “no voters”? Does it mean if the State stops sending aid teachers should all join a commune or pitch tents in Myers park and turn their pay check over to the school system???

If we want our school our way, we pay.
azwipe

Herkimer, NY

#38 Jan 19, 2013
Wow. Talk about exaggerations. What a drama queen.
yeah ok

Cortland, NY

#39 Jan 19, 2013
The idea of taking anything from the teachers is ridiculous.
fairfield

New York, NY

#40 Jan 19, 2013
they get double raises a year now, dont take more a% plus a step EVERY YEAR

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