Comments
1 - 20 of 74 Comments Last updated Apr 29, 2013
First Prev
of 4
Next Last

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#1
Mar 17, 2013
 
I now all the news in Herkimer is centered on the shootings and I understand. But from what I hear most of the people who work there did not get paid on Fiday. Also people who had there checks got called and were told not to cash them. Also some one who complained got fired? What gives, some one in the news please look into this.
yes

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#2
Mar 17, 2013
 
their bank accounts were seized for not paying their payroll taxes is what I heard. I know a nurse over there and she could not cash her paycheck on Friday.

Given that many of their top execs suddenly left last year, something is not right and now we are starting to see what is shaking out of that tree. Not good.
topguys

Ashburn, VA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#3
Mar 17, 2013
 
My sister has been working there for years she said it has gone to crap once the top exec left now I know why because they saw this coming and did Not want to be involved with it! I don't blame them. Yes its true she couldn't cash her check!!!
yeah

Ilion, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#4
Mar 17, 2013
 
Probably don't have any benefits either; retirement & health insurance not paid,
Valley Hoe

New York, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#5
Mar 17, 2013
 
When are we going to see some justice. Is Ness and Reed going to get a pass everywhere they go?
disgusted

Herkimer, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#6
Mar 17, 2013
 
yeah wrote:
Probably don't have any benefits either; retirement & health insurance not paid,
if the health benefits weren't paid for a month or two, employees would have started getting cancellation notices and that would have tipped them off.

What I know about the IRS and payroll taxes as far as businesses go, you gotta get WAY behind on them before they step in to seize accounts like this. If they are behind on payroll taxes, its probably a year or longer they haven't paid them. And that means the execs who jumped ship last year were partly responsible for it. Not good.
yeah

Ilion, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#7
Mar 18, 2013
 
of course they're responsible. Look what happened to Countryside & MVNH
Obviously

Deer Park, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8
Mar 18, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Ralph and Nest were escorted out of the building exactly 5 months ago, don't want it to seem like they left a year ago and it all went to hell. This is exactly what happened at MVNH and the only way they were able to get the IRS to release the bank accounts was by filing bankruptcy. Ralph and Nest are to blame and the Board is just as much to blame for allowing this to go on. The good part about taxes withheld from employees paychecks is that Board Members are personally reliable for paying them so the funds could come from their personal bank accounts if they aren't careful.
reality sez

New York, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#9
Mar 18, 2013
 
Obviously wrote:
Ralph and Nest were escorted out of the building exactly 5 months ago, don't want it to seem like they left a year ago and it all went to hell. This is exactly what happened at MVNH and the only way they were able to get the IRS to release the bank accounts was by filing bankruptcy. Ralph and Nest are to blame and the Board is just as much to blame for allowing this to go on. The good part about taxes withheld from employees paychecks is that Board Members are personally reliable for paying them so the funds could come from their personal bank accounts if they aren't careful.
personally reliable? No, how about personally responsible, and that also is not true. Guaranteed the board had Directors and Officers insurance that would cover claims against them unless there was fraud involved.

BTW, bankruptcy does not stop the IRS and taxes being overdue. They must have reached an agreement with the IRS in order to release the bank accounts.
Obviously

Deer Park, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#10
Mar 18, 2013
 
Shit my English got ripped up!

D&O will not cover because there is fraud involved as there was the last time this happened to them.

Bankruptcy doesn't stop the IRS but they will be pre-petition and they will agree to release the accounts after filing as they always do.
reality sez

New York, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#11
Mar 18, 2013
 
Obviously wrote:
Shit my English got ripped up!
D&O will not cover because there is fraud involved as there was the last time this happened to them.
Bankruptcy doesn't stop the IRS but they will be pre-petition and they will agree to release the accounts after filing as they always do.
correct.

D&O insurance would not cover specific insured individuals if those individuals were part of the fraud or other illegal activities.

As far as the IRS goes, there is a famous political pollster locally who's business fell about $300K behind on payroll taxes, interest and penalties before they finally seized accounts. Shit hits the fan come payday when people can't get paid.
Sad

Syracuse, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#12
Mar 18, 2013
 
I just hope the employees who do all the work get their paycheck situation taken care of very soon.
So Sad

Allston, MA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#13
Mar 18, 2013
 
This is so sad for those employees of Folts Home. Who will pay their (employees) bills while they are waiting for their checks. WKTV was called, but I didnt hear anything on the news.
Perhaps everyone should start calling board members?
wtd

Bristol, CT

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#14
Mar 18, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

What Can The Employees Do, Absolutely Nothing But Wait. OH They Can Go To The Food Bank They Have There.
toobad

Clinton, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#15
Mar 18, 2013
 
So Sad wrote:
This is so sad for those employees of Folts Home. Who will pay their (employees) bills while they are waiting for their checks. WKTV was called, but I didnt hear anything on the news.
Perhaps everyone should start calling board members?
WKTV won't cover this.. I heard Don Shipman is a board member!!
Ridiculous

Herkimer, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#16
Mar 18, 2013
 
Maybe someone should contact YNN ? Something needs to be done
johnnymear

Hampton, VA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#17
Mar 19, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

I contacted the OD yesterday, they said they would look into it....
folts employee

Ilion, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#18
Mar 19, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

johnnymear wrote:
I contacted the OD yesterday, they said they would look into it....
thank you. it is high time the newspaper took a hard look at the scandal at the Folts Home! this has been going on for months and now with paychecks being suspended the S is really hitting the fan.

this is a grave situation that is impacting the care provided to residents!

we can't believe this has not been in the papers already esp. with the Telegram office just one block away from our facility.
reality sez

New York, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#19
Mar 19, 2013
 
folts employee wrote:
<quoted text>
thank you. it is high time the newspaper took a hard look at the scandal at the Folts Home! this has been going on for months and now with paychecks being suspended the S is really hitting the fan.
this is a grave situation that is impacting the care provided to residents!
we can't believe this has not been in the papers already esp. with the Telegram office just one block away from our facility.
The Telegram is owned by Gatehouse so most of the time they just rehash news from the AP.

Agreed, this is a story that needs to get out there and the NYS Dept of Health should also be involved since they oversee and license nursing homes and long term care facilities.
folts employee

Ilion, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#20
Mar 19, 2013
 
reality sez wrote:
<quoted text>
The Telegram is owned by Gatehouse so most of the time they just rehash news from the AP.
Agreed, this is a story that needs to get out there and the NYS Dept of Health should also be involved since they oversee and license nursing homes and long term care facilities.
NYS IS aware of these problems and is investigating.

if the newspaper or the TV station called the state and asked they would find this to be the case.

radio station WIBX 950 AM at www.wibx950.com did a great job covering the shooting and they would look into the Folts Home if they knew about it

Tell me when this thread is updated: (Registration is not required)

Add to my Tracker Send me an email

First Prev
of 4
Next Last
Type in your comments below
Name
(appears on your post)
Comments
Characters left: 4000
Type the numbers you see in the image on the right:

Please note by clicking on "Post Comment" you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

17 Users are viewing the Herkimer Forum right now

Search the Herkimer Forum:
Title Updated Last By Comments
NY Who do you support for U.S. Senate in New York ... (Oct '10) 33 min Joe Mikleson 6,373
Ramar Liquors is BEST 2 hr Chugger 4
cheating men 3 hr say what 54
ban sharia law and islam 14 hr UBL 3
Mayors circus 18 hr Lets be real 45
Valley Liquor putting liquor shops out of busin... 18 hr yup 17
Mysteries of the universe with busy mom (May '13) 18 hr Aminal 79
•••
•••
•••
•••

Herkimer Jobs

•••
Enter and win $5000
•••
•••

Herkimer People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

•••

Herkimer News, Events & Info

Click for news, events and info in Herkimer
•••

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]
•••