Restaurant Collapses Into Creek

Restaurant Collapses Into Creek

There are 79 comments on the WNBC-TV New York story from Jun 28, 2006, titled Restaurant Collapses Into Creek. In it, WNBC-TV New York reports that:

A restaurant collapsed into a creek in New York on Wednesday, and the whole thing was caught on tape.

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leisa rath

United States

#1 Jul 2, 2006
When will authorites look into why the Dolgeville Restraunt went into the East Canada Creek? As the Mayor, Chief of Police and numerous firefighters stood by for hours and WATCHED. They absolutly did nothing to prevent the total devastation of that building.
bobby

Suffern, NY

#2 Jul 3, 2006
what were they suppose to do pick it up with their hands, you goof
leisa rath

United States

#3 Jul 3, 2006
No they could have had 1-2 loads of rocks dumped 10-25 feet up the creek to try to detour the water and thus the wear on the bearer wall. Any thing but doing nothing. And I am pretty sure I am not a goof. I know alittle more than the so called public servents of DOLGEVILLE. Maybe GOOF is what they should call you.
LaNy

Garden Grove, CA

#4 Jul 4, 2006
Hey there loud mouth from Gloversville ~ What high horse do you think you just rode in on. Obviously you didn't see the force of the water that was flowing through town. If you did, you would know that whatever you put in the water would have done NOTHING!!
Zipper

San Francisco, CA

#5 Jul 5, 2006
Hey goof from Gloversville! A couple of loads of rocks would not have stopped anything. You don't have to be genius to realize there was very little anyone could have done to prevent that building from collapsing. I doubt that you know more that the "public servants" of Dolgeville. It is quite obvious that you are no rocket scientist. You couldn't even spell "servant" right. And it is not a "bearer" wall, it is a "bearing" wall. However it is the foundation of the building being undermined by the water that caused it to collapse. The "bearing" wall is the wall that carries the weight of building inside mostly the weight of the roof. That is the lesson for today. I am pretty sure that you are a "goof" and do not know anything about construction.
Casey

Sunnyvale, CA

#6 Jul 6, 2006
How about what boat did the Goof come in on. Were you there, did you see it, did you measure the depth and speed of the water, did you witness the collapse? I am guessing, NO to all, because it is apparent you have no idea what you are talking about...You could have driven to Dolgeville in the time it took the Bar to collapse in the creek and lend your assistance, what about that?
leisa rath

United States

#7 Jul 9, 2006
LaNy wrote:
Hey there loud mouth from Gloversville ~ What high horse do you think you just rode in on. Obviously you didn't see the force of the water that was flowing through town. If you did, you would know that whatever you put in the water would have done NOTHING!!
you must be related to the rest of the dolgeville lyons who are all talk no action and especially no knowledge. AND YES I WAS THERE TO SEE THE WATER.
someone

Galeton, PA

#9 Jul 9, 2006
leisa rath wrote:
When will authorites look into why the Dolgeville Restraunt went into the East Canada Creek? As the Mayor, Chief of Police and numerous firefighters stood by for hours and WATCHED. They absolutly did nothing to prevent the total devastation of that building.
What were they supposed to? Think about that. The building is collapsing into a raging creek and you think people should have done something about that? The buildings foundation was corroded, it should have been maintained, but wasn't. Now all the other businesses along that creek on Main St. need to be maintained, even Motors and Stewarts. Hopefully they will or someday it could happen to them. You're right that they all stood there and watched...it's the owner of the business/apartments that need to keep it maintained. It's their responsibility, not the Mayor or cheif of police.
someone2

Cicero, NY

#10 Jul 10, 2006
someone wrote:
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What were they supposed to? Think about that. The building is collapsing into a raging creek and you think people should have done something about that? The buildings foundation was corroded, it should have been maintained, but wasn't. Now all the other businesses along that creek on Main St. need to be maintained, even Motors and Stewarts. Hopefully they will or someday it could happen to them. You're right that they all stood there and watched...it's the owner of the business/apartments that need to keep it maintained. It's their responsibility, not the Mayor or cheif of police.
The onwer of the bearing wall is the village or state, they have not decided yet who is the rightful owner. If you have seen the damage you will have seen that the bearing wall was damaged at least 60 feet up river. Thus is it not the owner of the property's responsibilty to repair what is not theirs.
Heather

Lansing, MI

#11 Sep 6, 2006
I fell upon this site quite by accident but I'm sure glad I did because you guys certainly made me laugh! Your responses to that "goof" were great! I don't know jack crap about construction but I sure do know that once a building is collapsing, especially into raging waters, there's no way it can be stopped. Not even by the boat the goof sailed in on! Thanks guys...you made my day!! I'm still laughing!!
Steve Batavia NY

Rochester, NY

#12 Sep 6, 2006
The dolgeville restaurant falling in the creek was the best thing that could have happened to Dolgeville. I'm sure that for a few days after while it was sitting down stream on the dam some of the local drunks were still trying to get a beer.
miliucc

United States

#13 Sep 25, 2006
leisa rath wrote:
No they could have had 1-2 loads of rocks dumped 10-25 feet up the creek to try to detour the water and thus the wear on the bearer wall. Any thing but doing nothing. And I am pretty sure I am not a goof. I know alittle more than the so called public servents of DOLGEVILLE. Maybe GOOF is what they should call you.
You must be a goof. Rock would not have diverted the water. I had about 1 acre of rock deposited on my land just a small distance up river from the bridge. The power of that flood was immense.
Woody A

Forest Lake, MN

#14 Sep 26, 2006
The food sucked anyhow...and the portions were so small!
Michael

Cicero, NY

#15 Oct 8, 2006
I live in Dolgeville and watched the whole event unfold from my back yard. You could have put as many loads of rock as you wanted to in that creek, but it wouldn't have made a difference. I obtained some information regarding the East Canada Creek from the United States Geological Survey. According to them the peak discharge of water from the creek was 36,500 cubic feet per second!!!!!! They also said that a flood like that occurs once every 500 years. Our emergency management officials in Dolgeville should be recognized for saving the lives of those who were asleep in the Dolgeville restaurant at four in the morning. There is ABSOLUTELY nothing anyone could have done to prevent that restaurant from collapsing without placing the lives of others in harms way.
Barb

Victor, NY

#16 Oct 14, 2006
I saw how fast the water was running that day. There is no way that anyone could have saved anything that was in the way of the rushing water. Thank God that no one was hurt. You can say what you want about the volunteer fire department but do you get out of your warm bed in the freezing winter or the hot sun in the summer to help them when they are called out.
Just think what would happen without these men and women who risk their lives everytime that whistle blows. God Bless them.
Amused by it all

Syracuse, NY

#17 Aug 20, 2007
leisa rath wrote:
No they could have had 1-2 loads of rocks dumped 10-25 feet up the creek to try to detour the water and thus the wear on the bearer wall. Any thing but doing nothing. And I am pretty sure I am not a goof. I know alittle more than the so called public servents of DOLGEVILLE. Maybe GOOF is what they should call you.
I would laugh out loud right now, but people might hear me and wonder. Dump a load or 2 of rocks up river???? HUH? Do you have any idea the ft lbs of force of a few feet of water is? Do you know what the weight of 1 cubic foot of water is? 62.4 lbs. And that is only 1 cubic foot. Add to that a few feet of very fast running muddy debris filled scare the hell out of you cold running mad water, and those "rocks" you dumped "upriver" will now become part of that very fast running muddy debris filled scare the hell out of you cold running mad water. I know you meant well, and you did'nt want to see the building end up in the drink (heaven forbid, all those bottles of liquor went to waste) now, where will you go...but PALEEEEEZE, think, think, think (not drink, drink, drink) before you say you know more than the public servants of Dolgeville. AND I DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE!
And whatEVER you do, don't tell anyone to dump stones in fast moving water. You will just have fast moving stones...
By the way, have you seen the creek after the waters subsided? I did, and I drove for miles to see the aftermath. The first thing you noticed is what? How 'bout the massive piles of "stone" gouged out and piled in places. Placed there by the tremedous force of fast moving water. Literally scouring the creek bed and depositing debris at will. And I will guarantee you those stones were from up river. Probably some elves were trying to avert some catastrophe by dumping stones in the river to slow it down.
Anyway, I believe I made my point, and please don't think I'm making fun of you. I'm really not.
So.....I'll have what your having. Better yet, make mine a double, then give me a backrub.
Wow

United States

#18 Aug 21, 2007
Maybe if the dump of a building and its foundation/footings were better maintained in the first place????
town taxpayer

Fishers, NY

#19 Aug 21, 2007
this item is far funnier than Frankfort.....
Just Wandered In

AOL

#20 Sep 6, 2007
The place was a DIVE! Did it even float?
town taxpayer

Fishers, NY

#21 Sep 6, 2007
yea, they reassembled it in Ft Plain
Just Wandered In wrote:
The place was a DIVE! Did it even float?

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