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reno

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#51
Jun 19, 2013
 
Thats funny!!"ratpublican" Where is pest control when you need them? Yes, there was another murder in Herkimer county --remember Chester Gillette? They hanged him from the court house. There was a 100 year anniversary not too long ago. Ah yea---- an "American Tragedy" There are a lot of American tragedies out there. For instance, Child molesters can plead guilty in Family Court-- but sometimes can not be indicted in criminal court.( The burden of proof is different)And you know what? They never get put on the sex offender website. i was told this many years ago AND I had access to "priviledged" info. But then of course, its not just the case in Herkimer County this occurs all over.
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#52
Jun 19, 2013
 
reno wrote:
Thats funny!!"ratpublican" Where is pest control when you need them? Yes, there was another murder in Herkimer county --remember Chester Gillette? They hanged him from the court house. There was a 100 year anniversary not too long ago. Ah yea---- an "American Tragedy" There are a lot of American tragedies out there. For instance, Child molesters can plead guilty in Family Court-- but sometimes can not be indicted in criminal court.( The burden of proof is different)And you know what? They never get put on the sex offender website. i was told this many years ago AND I had access to "priviledged" info. But then of course, its not just the case in Herkimer County this occurs all over.
wow, one murder that happened a century ago, big deal.

So, again, what "killers" are we not being protected from, besides none?

Child molesters are NEVER tried in family court unless they are a juvenile.
Phil

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#53
Jun 20, 2013
 
So, if your wife called the troopers, state police, or local village police right now and said some guy from the internet or a mile away was threatening her repeatedly and said he was going to XXXX, XXXX, and even XXXXX her and her whole family, you honestly think the police aren't going to find some excuse not to do their duty?

You're crazy. The first poster is right.

Phil
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#54
Jun 20, 2013
 
Phil wrote:
So, if your wife called the troopers, state police, or local village police right now and said some guy from the internet or a mile away was threatening her repeatedly and said he was going to XXXX, XXXX, and even XXXXX her and her whole family, you honestly think the police aren't going to find some excuse not to do their duty?
You're crazy. The first poster is right.
Phil
nodody said they would. You're crazy and you don't read too good.
leary

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#55
Jun 20, 2013
 
I agree with Reno. If sexual abuse occurs within the family by an adult against a child it is almost always petitioned into family court. The individual can also face concurrent charges in Criminal court,if the DA feels he can meet the "burden of proof." To be found guilty in Family Court, some "Credible evidence," must be substantiated. To be found guilty in Criminal Court the evidence presented has to be,"Beyond a Reasonable doubt" We have all heard about juveniles being charged as adults.
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#56
Jun 20, 2013
 
leary wrote:
I agree with Reno. If sexual abuse occurs within the family by an adult against a child it is almost always petitioned into family court. The individual can also face concurrent charges in Criminal court,if the DA feels he can meet the "burden of proof." To be found guilty in Family Court, some "Credible evidence," must be substantiated. To be found guilty in Criminal Court the evidence presented has to be,"Beyond a Reasonable doubt" We have all heard about juveniles being charged as adults.
Wrong. Does not matter if it is a family member or not. If the suspect of the abuse is an adult it is ALWAYS referred to criminal court. Every single time. No adult can be tried in a family court proceeding for a criminal act unless they were a juvenile when they committed the crime.
leary

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#57
Jun 20, 2013
 
well apparently you know everything. Do the research. No one is tried "criminally" in Family court. It is a CIVIL court not a criminal court and that is the point. You do not understand the distinction between the two jurisdictions. You are misinformed I worked professionally in the field for several years and I witnessed a lot of things. Enough said why bother finding out the truth----after all you are the ONLY one who knows whats going on. YA. you're talking out of your ass. In about three months or so I might log on to this forum again but for now you are wasting my time with BS HCCC has a law library but why find out the truth when YOU KNOW EVERTHING
Mostly true

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#58
Jun 20, 2013
 
Interesting debate here. To clarify for both of you, children facing criminal charges can be petitioned into Family Court. Yes, it is a civil court primarily but the above issues can be addressed in a Family Court setting. The emphasis is on rehabilitation and not primarily punishment. Counseling can be court ordered, foster care if needed, or long term residency at treatment centers. Sexual abuse within the family as well as domestic violence are also issues that CPS can petition Family court to address. As a general rule, however, no adults are criminally tried in Family Court. Family Court reviews petitions regarding custody, child abuse and neglect etc. It is also true that an adult who has been accused of abusing a child can face charges concurrently in both Family Court and Criminal court regarding physical abuse, neglect, domestic violence, and child sexual abuse
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#59
Jun 21, 2013
 
leary wrote:
I agree with Reno. If sexual abuse occurs within the family by an adult against a child it is almost always petitioned into family court. The individual can also face concurrent charges in Criminal court,if the DA feels he can meet the "burden of proof." To be found guilty in Family Court, some "Credible evidence," must be substantiated. To be found guilty in Criminal Court the evidence presented has to be,"Beyond a Reasonable doubt" We have all heard about juveniles being charged as adults.
Sexual abuse committed by an adult has to be prosecuted in criminal court. Your post is 100% garbage. Whether or not the victim(s) is/are family members is irrelevant to the criminality of sexual abuse.
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#60
Jun 21, 2013
 
Mostly true wrote:
Interesting debate here. To clarify for both of you, children facing criminal charges can be petitioned into Family Court. Yes, it is a civil court primarily but the above issues can be addressed in a Family Court setting. The emphasis is on rehabilitation and not primarily punishment. Counseling can be court ordered, foster care if needed, or long term residency at treatment centers. Sexual abuse within the family as well as domestic violence are also issues that CPS can petition Family court to address. As a general rule, however, no adults are criminally tried in Family Court. Family Court reviews petitions regarding custody, child abuse and neglect etc. It is also true that an adult who has been accused of abusing a child can face charges concurrently in both Family Court and Criminal court regarding physical abuse, neglect, domestic violence, and child sexual abuse
Adults do not face anything in family court regarding sexual abuse. That is a matter for the criminal courts to handle.
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#61
Jun 21, 2013
 
leary wrote:
I agree with Reno. If sexual abuse occurs within the family by an adult against a child it is almost always petitioned into family court.
What you are suggesting is tantamount to concealing a crime. Do you even realize how dumb you are by even posting that Family Court would do this?
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#62
Jun 22, 2013
 
now at a court near you. yeah, real safe place to raise a family.
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#64
Jun 22, 2013
 
"Psycho killer" casque say da da da!!!!!!!! thee oldies channel-- 1970's tune to party by!!
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#66
Jun 24, 2013
 
who told all u moruns its up to police and tropers and sherris dept to protect u? so what guys get out of jail in mos for assalt murder rape ect if cops arest them at all n if judge sentense them at all? so wut if the da is coked out n nos these criminels n thats why he go easy on them? its not thery job to protect u!! stop ur whining!
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#67
Jun 24, 2013
 

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bri

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#68
Jun 24, 2013
 
im with the person that said they dont owe you anything. its a different world you old people. get used to no protection and stop crying about how bad it is. quit being negative. things happen for a reason. bri
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#70
Jun 24, 2013
 
so what r u saying? if you mind ur bisness ppl leave u alone. its not bad here unless ur looking for trouble. police etc dont have to protect ppl that cause theyre own problem
bri

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#72
Jun 24, 2013
 
u owe the police here a apology. except for the 6 people shot in march everybody is safe ur just paraionod
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Jun 26, 2013
 
lol
bri

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#76
Jun 26, 2013
 
yes u do thay have a thankless job they keep streets safe so u can come on topics and put them down no ones been killed since march so stop being negative winers!!

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