Since: Apr 09

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#21 Sep 10, 2013
democrats wrote:
How about an intelligent give and take. What has the Republican party, which has been in the majority for over 20 years done to improve Herkimer County?
Running in the black is great. However they have raised taxes each and every year and in 2006 they took an extra 1% away from towns,villages from the sales tax. What businesses have they brought in? Delays of ignorance states that the jail is a done deal. However the county does not own the land. Is there a price tag on the property? Seems odd that you would plan on building a multi million dollar project on land you do not own. So let the debate begin. Lets us keep it intelligent.

The Legislature helped Remington go from 600 or 700 employees to 1300.
democrats

Utica, NY

#22 Sep 10, 2013
You still don't get the art of factual debates. Back up your statements with facts. Maybe a Leg. friend told a wild story and now you pass it on has fact. Please spare us dither.
democrats

Utica, NY

#23 Sep 10, 2013
USEurHEAD wrote:
<quoted text>
The Legislature helped Remington go from 600 or 700 employees to 1300.
if they did that is great. However I think it has more to do with the management of Remington Arms. Also the fact that Sen. Schumer (a Democrat) helped with a military contract for Remington arms. But, what else has the Republican controlled Leg. brought into Herkimer County? Answer: nothing. the pumpkin patch is empty and they fail to realize ther economic opportunity that is HCCC. And by the way who came and helped the county with several million dollars for flood assistance? Correct :Gov. Guomo another Democrat.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#24 Sep 10, 2013
democrats wrote:
You still don't get the art of factual debates. Back up your statements with facts. Maybe a Leg. friend told a wild story and now you pass it on has fact. Please spare us dither.
You say, "the republican's have done nothing."

I say they assisted the Arms in hiring over 600 job. Now you want me to go and find the artical to prove it. Is that how it works? You don't want a debate, you want to be educated. I suggest you do some research before you make dumbass statements.

Forget it, I'm lying. The Legislature "didn't" help the Arms with a 2million dollar grant/gift in 2009.

The County "doesn't" have the lowest tax increases, as far back as I can remember of any taxable jurisdiction in Herkimer County.

The county "hasn't" reduced the number of county employees by 20% over the last 10 years.

Two new businesses "aren't" opening in our area. Feldmeier's isn't building a new plant as we speak and won't be hiring 50 new people to start.
&
The Legislature "didn't" helped relocate an auto parts supply facility to our area either.

The County is "not" in the black.

When times were good the County "didn't" give the municipalities the 1% sales tax.

Also Helen hasn't cost the county tax dollars with frivolous audits.

Hartman "isn't" a useless dumbfk trying to act like his brain isn't fried.

You're right the Legislature doesn't do shht.
Democrats

Utica, NY

#25 Sep 11, 2013
USEurHEAD wrote:
<quoted text>
You say, "the republican's have done nothing."
I say they assisted the Arms in hiring over 600 job. Now you want me to go and find the artical to prove it. Is that how it works? You don't want a debate, you want to be educated. I suggest you do some research before you make dumbass statements.
Forget it, I'm lying. The Legislature "didn't" help the Arms with a 2million dollar grant/gift in 2009.
The County "doesn't" have the lowest tax increases, as far back as I can remember of any taxable jurisdiction in Herkimer County.
The county "hasn't" reduced the number of county employees by 20% over the last 10 years.
Two new businesses "aren't" opening in our area. Feldmeier's isn't building a new plant as we speak and won't be hiring 50 new people to start.
&
The Legislature "didn't" helped relocate an auto parts supply facility to our area either.
The County is "not" in the black.
When times were good the County "didn't" give the municipalities the 1% sales tax.
Also Helen hasn't cost the county tax dollars with frivolous audits.

Hartman "isn't" a useless dumbfk trying to act like his brain isn't fried.
You're right the Legislature doesn't do shht.
wow! such anger

o.k. let us start with the reduction of county employees. reduced by 20 % and yet we spend 1/4 million dollars for the elected leg to have health insurance for a part time job.
And by the way the Legislators and appointed people have a better health care plan that do the union members that actually do the work.

they reduce meals on wheels

they reduce social services.

They pay woman a different rate then we pay men doing the same job.

They have some of lowest salaries in the county building.

Feldmeir was helped by Sen Schumer

The auto parts was just relocated from Middleville. not a new business.

The 1% sales tax was taken away 2006 and not given back. This is how you have balanced a budget with smoke and mirrors. And yes there is more.
Just saying

Little Falls, NY

#26 Sep 11, 2013
democrats wrote:
What money has Helen cost the County? Please don't make blanket statements, back it up with facts.
She and former legislator Joe Chilelli (sp) sued the county and won a settlement in the thousands.(Look it up)
All Helen has accomplished is being an obstructionist. By continuing her demands for survey,after survey...reports after reports, regarding the jail, she has cost this county other thousands of dollars. Oh...and the big idea about the newest group that can build the jail for "millions less" is a bunch of crap. Wait until their plans come back and are rejected by the state.

It would be fine if when she's complaining about everything that is wrong with the county , she would come up with a "valid" idea on ways to improve the current environment. It's OK to talk about and point out problems....but if you don't have solutions, why are you there?
yup and yup

New York, NY

#27 Sep 12, 2013
USEurHEAD wrote:
<quoted text>
You say, "the republican's have done nothing."
I say they assisted the Arms in hiring over 600 job. Now you want me to go and find the artical to prove it. Is that how it works? You don't want a debate, you want to be educated. I suggest you do some research before you make dumbass statements.
Forget it, I'm lying. The Legislature "didn't" help the Arms with a 2million dollar grant/gift in 2009.
The County "doesn't" have the lowest tax increases, as far back as I can remember of any taxable jurisdiction in Herkimer County.
The county "hasn't" reduced the number of county employees by 20% over the last 10 years.
Two new businesses "aren't" opening in our area. Feldmeier's isn't building a new plant as we speak and won't be hiring 50 new people to start.
&
The Legislature "didn't" helped relocate an auto parts supply facility to our area either.
The County is "not" in the black.
When times were good the County "didn't" give the municipalities the 1% sales tax.
Also Helen hasn't cost the county tax dollars with frivolous audits.
Hartman "isn't" a useless dumbfk trying to act like his brain isn't fried.
You're right the Legislature doesn't do shht.
Funny as hell. And all true.
ur just a dk

New York, NY

#28 Sep 12, 2013
Democrats wrote:
<quoted text>
wow! such anger
o.k. let us start with the reduction of county employees. reduced by 20 % and yet we spend 1/4 million dollars for the elected leg to have health insurance for a part time job.
And by the way the Legislators and appointed people have a better health care plan that do the union members that actually do the work.
they reduce meals on wheels
they reduce social services.
They pay woman a different rate then we pay men doing the same job.
They have some of lowest salaries in the county building.
Feldmeir was helped by Sen Schumer
The auto parts was just relocated from Middleville. not a new business.
The 1% sales tax was taken away 2006 and not given back. This is how you have balanced a budget with smoke and mirrors. And yes there is more.
Did the Legislature reduce County employees by 20%, give 2million to the Arms, assist Feldmeier's, help keep the auto parts in our county, is the county in the black, has Helen inadvertently cost us money for a found less audit, is Hartman a clown, did the Legislature assist the municipalities in the past with the 1% and does the county now use that 1% to cover our unfunded state mandates and our Medicaid or not?

We all know Legislator's get health insurance. Village attorney's get health insurance. What's more likely to be common knowledge, their health ins. or what's above.

YES it's amazing the Legislator's receive health insurance for a thankless job. SHOCKING.
small town

Utica, NY

#29 Sep 12, 2013
yep those good ole boy republicans got going in the right direction, down ward. if you think it is a thankless job than don't run. It is a part time job and should not require health insurance. And why do they have a better plan than the unionized employees of the county? No the county uses the 1% to cover their mistakes.
rite loser

New York, NY

#30 Sep 13, 2013
small town wrote:
yep those good ole boy republicans got going in the right direction, down ward. if you think it is a thankless job than don't run. It is a part time job and should not require health insurance. And why do they have a better plan than the unionized employees of the county? No the county uses the 1% to cover their mistakes.
If a black calls me a cracker, I don't get mad. Cracker simply means I'm "white".

If someone refers to me as a "good ole boy," I don't get mad. Good ole boy simply means I'm "not" a democrat.

I'm against deadbeats and social services. Which means I'm not black or a democrat.

It's pretty plain and simple fkhead.
Really

Little Falls, NY

#31 Sep 14, 2013
Democrats wrote:
<quoted text>
wow! such anger
o.k. let us start with the reduction of county employees. reduced by 20 % and yet we spend 1/4 million dollars for the elected leg to have health insurance for a part time job.
And by the way the Legislators and appointed people have a better health care plan that do the union members that actually do the work.
they reduce meals on wheels
they reduce social services.
They pay woman a different rate then we pay men doing the same job.
They have some of lowest salaries in the county building.
Feldmeir was helped by Sen Schumer
The auto parts was just relocated from Middleville. not a new business.
The 1% sales tax was taken away 2006 and not given back. This is how you have balanced a budget with smoke and mirrors. And yes there is more.
Hey Democrats no answer to the post regarding "How has Helen Rose cost the county money"...did you look at the response??
Saw that

New York, NY

#32 Sep 14, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Democrats no answer to the post regarding "How has Helen Rose cost the county money"...did you look at the response??
All Helen has accomplished is being an obstructionist. By continuing her demands for survey,after survey...reports after reports, regarding the jail, and bs audits she has cost this county other thousands of dollars. Oh...and the big idea about the newest group that can build the jail for "millions less" is a bunch of crap. Wait until their plans come back and are rejected by the state.

It would be fine if when she's complaining about everything that is wrong with the county , she would come up with a "valid" idea on ways to improve the current environment. It's OK to talk about and point out problems....but if you don't have solutions, why are you there?
Disgusted Taxpayer

New York, NY

#33 Sep 19, 2013
http://www.herkimertelegram.com/article/20130...

This is why there has not been any substantial developments in these business parks or Herkimer County.

An absolute disgrace, diservice, and ineptness.

Time for new leadership!
Tx 4 new leadership

New York, NY

#34 Sep 20, 2013
Disgusted Taxpayer wrote:
http://www.herkimertelegram.co m/article/20130918/NEWS/130919 730
This is why there has not been any substantial developments in these business parks or Herkimer County.
An absolute disgrace, diservice, and ineptness.
Time for new leadership!
New leadership will certainly change the economic climate in our county. I understand Disney, Nascar and MLB are waiting for us to elect new leadership before making commitments to the beautiful Herkimer County. All other counties in America look to Herkimer County for the answers. We need to remember, our county has always served as the model for our state and federal government.

What new leadership would you like to see join the legislature. I'm thinkin Zeppo, Noodge and Bo jive, for starters.
resident

Carlisle, MA

#35 Sep 20, 2013
Why do you blame the powers that be for any of your issues?Remember, the Democrats have the ability to bring business here too, but have not brought one. Yet alone any ideas on how to. Instead they complain about leadership. They are worse for not fulfilling their duties , minority or not. Put up or shut up, it's that simple.
sr resident

Herkimer, NY

#36 Sep 20, 2013
Make no mistake they hate rose because she blows the whistle on them. It is known in the county building that she is the one that blew the whistle on the illegal things in the health dept and so the doctor resigned. We all know the sheriff's department is eating overtime like it is candy and the county nursing home is a disaster. The dems aren't obstructionists. they're the ones that finally got some of the boys to look at the new jail construction. If that works they claim it will save the county over 20 mil. The IDA is a joke and everyone knows it. They have money leftover to spend on selling the business parks ..yipee. somebody should be asking them what they got for what they have spent so far. I saw the billboard at the Albany Airport. What a joke and they spent $50,000 to Casale to do that. You've got to be kidding. Brezinski, Hartman and Rose are only 3 of 17. Nope the Republicans own all of this. No ideas is there game. I watch the meetings on the computer. It's clear they make discussions without any thought and it is Hartman and Rose who can only slow them down. Let's send some more dems in there to straighten it out. The Repugnants have had their time. Spare us from any more. I'm voting for Hartman!
Rowen

Little Falls, NY

#37 Sep 20, 2013
sr resident wrote:
Make no mistake they hate rose because she blows the whistle on them. It is known in the county building that she is the one that blew the whistle on the illegal things in the health dept and so the doctor resigned. We all know the sheriff's department is eating overtime like it is candy and the county nursing home is a disaster. The dems aren't obstructionists. they're the ones that finally got some of the boys to look at the new jail construction. If that works they claim it will save the county over 20 mil. The IDA is a joke and everyone knows it. They have money leftover to spend on selling the business parks ..yipee. somebody should be asking them what they got for what they have spent so far. I saw the billboard at the Albany Airport. What a joke and they spent $50,000 to Casale to do that. You've got to be kidding. Brezinski, Hartman and Rose are only 3 of 17. Nope the Republicans own all of this. No ideas is there game. I watch the meetings on the computer. It's clear they make discussions without any thought and it is Hartman and Rose who can only slow them down. Let's send some more dems in there to straighten it out. The Repugnants have had their time. Spare us from any more. I'm voting for Hartman!
That's why I fully support my best friend Helen Rose evan though I'm the county chair idiot. Last time I had to work especially hard trying to sink Mike Stalteri. He would have Beat Helen Rose if I didn't get involved. My specialty is sinking my own Republican Candidates in the very district I live. I'm the best. I love you Helen....... PS I told you when he was gonna put up his signs. way to get out ahead of him.
Body Shop

Herkimer, NY

#38 Sep 20, 2013
Rowen wrote:
<quoted text> That's why I fully support my best friend Helen Rose evan though I'm the county chair idiot. Last time I had to work especially hard trying to sink Mike Stalteri. He would have Beat Helen Rose if I didn't get involved. My specialty is sinking my own Republican Candidates in the very district I live. I'm the best. I love you Helen....... PS I told you when he was gonna put up his signs. way to get out ahead of him.
you're an idiot. Tom got the prime space on 5.. I feel sorry for him since he can't get out of his own way. He is a nice enough guy, but he just isn't bright enough. Even Rowan couldn't get him elected. Stalteri was too full of himself and mommy could't help him. Rose is a loner and independent. That's why the boys hate her but the republican voters love her.
rite

New York, NY

#39 Sep 21, 2013
All Helen has accomplished is being an obstructionist. By continuing her demands for survey,after survey...reports after reports, regarding the jail, and bs audits she has cost this county other thousands of dollars. Oh...and the big idea about the newest group that can build the jail for "millions less" is a bunch of crap. Wait until their plans come back and are rejected by the state.

It would be fine if when she's complaining about everything that is wrong with the county , she would come up with a "valid" idea on ways to improve the current environment. It's OK to talk about and point out problems....but if she doesn't have solutions, why is she there?
supporter

Herkimer, NY

#40 Sep 21, 2013
rite wrote:
All Helen has accomplished is being an obstructionist. By continuing her demands for survey,after survey...reports after reports, regarding the jail, and bs audits she has cost this county other thousands of dollars. Oh...and the big idea about the newest group that can build the jail for "millions less" is a bunch of crap. Wait until their plans come back and are rejected by the state.
It would be fine if when she's complaining about everything that is wrong with the county , she would come up with a "valid" idea on ways to improve the current environment. It's OK to talk about and point out problems....but if she doesn't have solutions, why is she there?
let's see you think the millions less won't be approved by the state. I think I agree with you even though it should be approved. The state has been dealing with the boys for years along with the Libella architect who wants 40 million to do the jail. It should be approved. Johnson and Scrader are the guys who broke ranks to take the idea from the democrats. I watch the meetings on the web. Helen has offered many suggestions on the nursing home, health department, social services and even the property auction. The boys ears are blocked and have no problems spending our $$ because they have idiots on there who don't do their homework. We need to put the new people in there and watch the tide turn. Remember Rose has the votes of many republicans who know what she has done. That make the boys nuts too.

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