Marijuana......Yes or No

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420High

Utica, NY

#1 Mar 17, 2014
Do you think Marijuana would be a good thing to legalize in New York??? Alcohol is so bad for you and so are cigarettes but Marijuana on the hand hasn't caused any deaths EVER..there is no way that anyone can overdose on it and yet they use it for medical reasons..What Do You Think??
Who dat

Little Falls, NY

#2 Mar 17, 2014
Agree but there are health concerns with long term use.
stoners

Ilion, NY

#3 Mar 17, 2014
Fact: Prolonged marijuana use diminishes one's intelligence.

Why a government thinks it would be a good idea to sanction use of a substance that over time would "dumb down" the population is beyond me.

Dumbing down an already pretty dumb population reduces this nation's position in a highly competitive global environment in which we already lag behind in education and trade.

Habitual marijuana use saps one's motivation and reduces one's mental capacity, and it's easy to see how that translates into fewer college graduates and more slugs on the welfare tit. Not next year. Over a period of years.

Furthermore, legalization communicates to children that marijuana use is OK, such that five years after legalization you have significantly more tokers than you otherwise would.

The pro-pot arguments of "but drinking and tobacco are so much more dangerous" is just so much blah blah blah. They are dangerous, yes, in a different way.

Just because society already sanctions the use of some dangerous substances is no justification to sanction the use of another dangerous substance.

Alas, we seem to be on a slippery slope to widespread marijuana legalization, and if it comes to pass it will be to the profound detriment of this great nation.
gsc

Ilion, NY

#4 Mar 17, 2014
..."but drinking and tobacco are so much more dangerous" is just so much blah blah blah. They are dangerous, yes, in a different way.......

Yes, like 53% of all US homicides are ALCOHOL related. Nice drug you use.

What a ignoramus you are.
ilion weed smoker

Herkimer, NY

#5 Mar 17, 2014
Hell yeah!
stoners

Ilion, NY

#6 Mar 17, 2014
gsc wrote:
..."but drinking and tobacco are so much more dangerous" is just so much blah blah blah. They are dangerous, yes, in a different way.......
Yes, like 53% of all US homicides are ALCOHOL related. Nice drug you use.
What a ignoramus you are.
Completely predictable... right off the bat, some stoner brings up alcohol.

Pay attention now, stoner... I know it's difficult with your attenuated attention span... this thread is not a comparison of pot vs. booze. It's about pot.

So forget booze and consider pot in a vacuum and tell us stoner, should marijuana be legalized?
420High

Utica, NY

#7 Mar 17, 2014
I think it will be legal all over America before 2017..well so far 3 states have done it and its not doing too bad
black dem

Stephentown, NY

#8 Mar 17, 2014
Useless garbage.
gsc

Ilion, NY

#9 Mar 18, 2014
Can't go out and have a good time
Can't have sex with your spouse
Can't celebrate a great event
Can't come home after a hard days work

WITHOUT USING ALCOHOL - you druggie
black dem

Stephentown, NY

#10 Mar 18, 2014
Yeah, pot smokers are highly motivate,
Doesn't matter to me I'll never see it. Legal or not you can't do it in public buildings. You're still a second class citizen. Go fk yourself. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhah ahahahahhahaha
gsc

Ilion, NY

#11 Mar 18, 2014
go to any bar tonight at 11pm if you want to see some motivation. They are conquering the world in there. Be careful though, you may get run off the road by one of these ALCOHOL users.
herkimer

Little Falls, NY

#12 Mar 18, 2014
Well I don't want to have to smell it. Keep it illegal. Punk ass MFers.
legalization

Utica, NY

#13 Mar 18, 2014
The "studies" that were begun about half a century ago regarding pot and why they made it illegal and a Schedule I substance were NEVER COMPLETED! The Government themselves never documented any reason why pot was made illegal.

The definition of Schedule I:

1. The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
2. The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
3. There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.

Funny thing is, there are prescription medications out there that are derived from pot! Right there it shoots down #2 and 3.
stoners

Ilion, NY

#14 Mar 18, 2014
gsc wrote:
go to any bar tonight at 11pm if you want to see some motivation. They are conquering the world in there. Be careful though, you may get run off the road by one of these ALCOHOL users.
ONCE AGAIN -- the point is not to compare pot to alcohol. the dangers of alcohol and the damage it causes are well known. suggesting that one dangerous substance (pot) should be legal because another dangerous substance (alcohol) is legal is the very definition of specious.

if your panties are all in a bunch over alcohol, then start a thread on bringing back Prohibition.

Tell us instead why you think marijuana should be legalized, in and of its own alleged merit.
fact

Little Falls, NY

#15 Mar 18, 2014
in favor of having it legal for medical purposes.whole lot better for pain management than addicting all these people to oxys.that shit is destroying peoples lives and that is a fact
420High

Utica, NY

#16 Mar 18, 2014
cases show that Pot heals and there hasn't been ANY deaths caused by it...if Pot was legal across the country they need to make it so you have to be 21 to purchase it just as the liquor laws go
legalization

Utica, NY

#17 Mar 18, 2014
stoners wrote:
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ONCE AGAIN -- the point is not to compare pot to alcohol. the dangers of alcohol and the damage it causes are well known. suggesting that one dangerous substance (pot) should be legal because another dangerous substance (alcohol) is legal is the very definition of specious.
And why not make reference to alcohol in terms of legalizing pot? Alcohol prohibition did not work and was overturned. Drug prohibition has been an utter failure as well.

Besides, alcohol is legal and many times fatal. Pot, on the other hand, is never fatal. One cannot administer enough pot to overdose on.

Apparently you do not understand the concept of debating the pro's and con's of something and using something like alcohol as a point of reference to compare and contrast. The point is not comparing to alcohol. Alcohol is being used as a reference for comparison for making the point for legalization.
legalization

Utica, NY

#18 Mar 18, 2014
And by the way, many over the counter medications, including aspirins, are legal and fatal doses can be administered as well. This is also a point of comparison.
stoners

Ilion, NY

#19 Mar 18, 2014
legalization wrote:
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And why not make reference to alcohol in terms of legalizing pot? Alcohol prohibition did not work and was overturned. Drug prohibition has been an utter failure as well.
Besides, alcohol is legal and many times fatal. Pot, on the other hand, is never fatal. One cannot administer enough pot to overdose on.
Apparently you do not understand the concept of debating the pro's and con's of something and using something like alcohol as a point of reference to compare and contrast. The point is not comparing to alcohol. Alcohol is being used as a reference for comparison for making the point for legalization.
freaking stoners... dumb as a box of rocks!

whatever circumstances surround alcohol have NO BEARING WHATSOEVER on the impact of marijuana legalization, which I argue will be diminished collective intelligence.

introducing an alcohol context into the marijuana debate is like someone in 1800s arguing, "Well slavery is legal, let's make torture legal too!"

they need to be weighed on their own merits / demerits.

you're just using alcohol as a crutch for your argument because in truth there is no good overall reason to legalize marijuana other than for certain medical applications, from the standpoint of societal well being.
legalization

Utica, NY

#20 Mar 18, 2014
stoners wrote:
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freaking stoners... dumb as a box of rocks!
whatever circumstances surround alcohol have NO BEARING WHATSOEVER on the impact of marijuana legalization, which I argue will be diminished collective intelligence.
introducing an alcohol context into the marijuana debate is like someone in 1800s arguing, "Well slavery is legal, let's make torture legal too!"
they need to be weighed on their own merits / demerits.
you're just using alcohol as a crutch for your argument because in truth there is no good overall reason to legalize marijuana other than for certain medical applications, from the standpoint of societal well being.
Except I'm not a stoner or a user of marijuana. Of course the circumstances surrounding alcohol have bearing on legalizing marijuana. It is you who chooses to omit it from the conversation.

There is no addiction to pot, but there are to many other legal substances. This is a pro point for legalization. There is documented medical reasons why pot is a safer alternative to treating many ailments, including the damaging affects of chemotherapy. This is also a pro point for legalization. And as a reference, pot has been shown to be more effective with alleviating some of the side effects of chemotherapy than many other traditional medications. Without other points of reference, how does one draw comparisons with which to show pros and cons? Again, debating 101, to which, you are failing miserably.

So far, you have provided nothing to support your position, whichever that is since you do not make it known. Every post you've made are filled with strawmen, with your only intent to belittle those who respond to your useless and boorish banter.

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