6 Herkimer Co. fire departments consi...
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New Hartford, NY

#23 Nov 14, 2013
LF is only good for saving basements. They are the laughing stock of the valley. For Herkimer or any other dept to want to consolidate with them, would be to bring your dept down.
conolidate now

Little Falls, NY

#24 Nov 14, 2013
go volunteer and save millions
jerkoff

Little Falls, NY

#25 Nov 14, 2013
conolidate now wrote:
go volunteer and save millions
go volunteer and your house will be the first to burn....
dicklicker

Bronx, NY

#26 Nov 14, 2013
jerkoff wrote:
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go volunteer and your house will be the first to burn....
who cares replacement cost is nice not like when they leave you a smoldering mold infested mess and the insurance nickels and dimes ya.firefighters work for the insurance company not the taxpayer duh!
joe brown

Little Falls, NY

#27 Nov 28, 2013
former slacker spotted,arent all firemen slackers
The Whole Truth

Utica, NY

#28 Nov 28, 2013
All these departments should be volunteer. Firemen are greedy unionized people who suck the public tit dry. They get a lot of money for very little work. They expect full paid pensions and health insurance when on duty they sit around the firehouse monitoring their businesses and extra curricular activities. The whole paid department business is way too expensive for the few pennies you save on insurance. Sorry fire guys but you are really expensive for what little you do. The communities can no longer afford you.
Hmmmmm

Little Falls, NY

#29 Nov 29, 2013
option 2 wrote:
is no brainer...
Consolidation: The options
Below are the five options provided by the fire department consolidation study done by Summit Lake Consulting LLC in Albany for six departments in Herkimer County.
OPTION 1-A
Employee status: All would be paid. There would be 17 firefighters on duty 24/7 and six firefighters trained as medics on duty 24/7, with 119 personnel total.
Estimated cost:$8,613,860
OPTION 1-B
Employee status: This option would be the same as 1-A, however, instead of using firefighters as medics, full-time medics would run the ambulances.
Estimated cost:$7,794,660
OPTION 2
Employee status: Basically the same as the six departments have now but would operate under one fire chief and dispatching program. The six municipalities still would control the finances and income generated by the departments would be out of their control.
Estimated cost:$4,168,888.81
OPTION 3-A
Employee status: Would man three companies 24/7 and three others 10 hours during the day Monday through Friday with paid firefighters. Three ambulances would be manned 24/7 by full or part-time medics. Volunteer firefighters would fill in after paid firefighters leave after eight or 10 hours each day.
Estimated cost:$5,911,860
OPTION 3-B
Employee status: Basically the same as Option 3-A except that qualified call-in personnel would be used to fill in for paid personnel when they are off-duty. Volunteers would have the option to train at no cost to them to a level of a career firefighter and fill in as necessary.
Estimated cost:$4,967,000
Source: Fire department consolidation study done by Summit Lake Consulting LLC in Albany.
I think the costs are grossly underestimated. I would be more interested in what the SAVINGS would be in pensions and health plans and will they still be top heavy with administration?
idk

Mayfield, NY

#30 Nov 29, 2013
Has there been an actual cost study?
Watcher

Tully, NY

#31 Nov 29, 2013
Like to hear more about NFPA 1710 and 1720 in the study.
z u pos

Utica, NY

#32 Dec 9, 2013
now do something the retirement and benis..the standing around cooking , lifting weights and all the other nonsense
Herkimer, N.Y.
FRANKFORT — Discussions among the fire chiefs who took part in a six-department consolidation study are focusing on how to work together to save money on purchases, Frankfort Fire Chief Charles Conigliaro told the village board during a meeting Thursday.

The Frankfort, East Herkimer and Mohawk volunteer departments and Herkimer, Ilion and Little Falls career fire departments took part in a study to look at possible consolidation and ways to cooperate to save money. It would be up to the local governments to decide whether or not to consolidate and how that would be done, Conigliaro pointed out, but the chiefs are hoping to find ways to save money by working together and they plan to involve more than the original six departments that participated in the study in these efforts.

For example, he said, all of the departments are required to have their air packs calibrated.

“If they could all do it in one place, we could save maybe $20 a pack,” he said, adding the departments could rotate hosting the calibration.

When asked if there would be air packs available in case of an emergency while the calibration was taking place, Conigliaro said a few air packs would be held back and the final batch taken for calibrating when the others are done.

Cooperating for training was also discussed. As for paying for apparatus replacements, Conigliaro said the group didn’t know how that could be done cooperatively.

“We can’t pass one municipality’s costs onto another municipality,” he said.“We’re all agreed that we have to start with the basics.”

“I think you’re going in the right direction,” said Mayor Frank Moracco.“I’d also like to see down the road if each municipality can send a trustee, not to discuss, but to hear how it’s going. Right now, the more you add to the pot, the worse the soup will taste.”

Moracco also commented he was impressed with how quickly Frankfort firefighters and neighboring departments responded to an early morning fire on Second Avenue Sunday.

Trustee Richard Adams echoed those comments, adding the houses in that neighborhood are close together.

“It could have been a disaster,” he said.

Moracco asked Trustees Mark Harris and Michael Entwistle, who serve as liaisons to the fire department, to meet with the chief to discuss the 2014 - 2015 budget.

“We do not want to wait until the 11th hour,” he said.“It’s going to be a tough year for just about everybody.”

The Frankfort Volunteer Fire Department responded to 86 alarms and firefighters completed 56 hours of training during the period from Oct. 4 to Dec. 5, Conigliaro reported.

He also reported the department would be sponsoring its annual Santa Claus visits to various neighborhoods Dec. 17 to Dec. 20.

Read more: http://www.herkimertelegram.com/article/20131...
pretend to be smart

Utica, NY

#33 Dec 9, 2013
z u pos wrote:
now do something the retirement and benis..the standing around cooking , lifting weights and all the other nonsense
All of which equates to you are jealous simply because you cou ld not pass an easy civil service test.....
z u pos

Utica, NY

#34 Dec 9, 2013
hey dopey except I run my own million dollar compay
pretend to be smart

Utica, NY

#35 Dec 9, 2013
z u pos wrote:
hey dopey except I run my own million dollar compay
Sure you do, which is why you couldn't even spell "company" correctly.
tally bahn4941

Utica, NY

#36 Dec 9, 2013
ill fcuk any muslum in the mouth for allah
Hahaha

Ilion, NY

#37 Jan 7, 2014
The fire advisory board has been talking consolidation for 12 years. They do not have the knowledge to figure this out. They are too busy talking gossip through out the county. Clueless.
paper clips

Little Falls, NY

#38 Mar 22, 2014
The Whole Truth wrote:
All these departments should be volunteer. Firemen are greedy unionized people who suck the public tit dry. They get a lot of money for very little work. They expect full paid pensions and health insurance when on duty they sit around the firehouse monitoring their businesses and extra curricular activities. The whole paid department business is way too expensive for the few pennies you save on insurance. Sorry fire guys but you are really expensive for what little you do. The communities can no longer afford you.
how true...
A thought

Little Falls, NY

#39 Mar 23, 2014
Consolidate all 4 Municipalities into one new modern facility. Centrally located, preferably a higher ground sight. Police, Fire, 911 etc. Force early retirement for the gravy sucking lifers. Most of whom have second and third jobs anyway. Also make sure once retired, the retirees aren't recycled back into any municipalities work force. This will create well paying jobs for others who other wise would not have the opportunity to hold because of politics. It's not that tough, we just need to admit we no longer have the money to pay for all these separate departments. It's going to be extremely unpopular but , need to be done.
mr pickle

Little Falls, NY

#40 Mar 23, 2014
the taxpayers agree, now if Katie nipples and the gang would get on board we would have more money in our pockets
Why

Syracuse, NY

#41 Mar 25, 2014
I would much rather pay for 16 firemen to sit in their lazy boys all day & wait for "the big one".
consolidate NOW

Utica, NY

#42 Mar 25, 2014
that's why your in Syracuse, the siht hole of upstate ny.

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