OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

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TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35044 Jan 7, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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Ha ha are you the troll now? That's who I accused of changing their name and your all hot and bothered. HA HA
Accusing others of what they are guilty of is an old long time troll habit one that you are very good at. Later.
Only to you! I donot care how many names one post with. It is sort of fun to figure out what names belong together. But with you you take in circles. Why not just call the person out you were referring to?
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35045 Jan 7, 2013
Take should have been talk in my last post!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35046 Jan 7, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
<quoted text>You never give specifics. You just talk in generalities. Your a walking talking Republican water carrier now.
Sorry as long as sick people exist in America health care has to be paid for. It's no surprise. You either make the employer help pick up the costs or drive health care costs down or let people start dying of preventable illnesses or have a national health insurance that every body pays into. That's your choices. Agitating for doing nothing is frankly stupid. That's what drove health insurance costs up the last 30 or 40 years.
And I heard caring for the poor and the sick was the Christian thing that you supposed Christians were supposed to be doing. In fact Jesus talked way more about that than abortions, gays or any of the other things that get you all Christiany. Isn't that so?
I felt sorry for the mom with 3 kids they were interviewing. As for sorry as long as sick people exist and so on......It just isnot going as smooth as you talk about.

By the way if you had to pay for your employee's healthcare just how much would it cost you. Remember you are not helping pay you are paying all of it. Lets say per month. Would it cause a hardship on you and your husband? Yes caring for the poor is the right thing as long as the are not lazy poor!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35047 Jan 7, 2013
Just: You never answered me , How many hours a week do you work? Just like to know since you seem to think I am a lesser person than you for not working my whole adult life.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#35048 Jan 8, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
Just: You never answered me , How many hours a week do you work? Just like to know since you seem to think I am a lesser person than you for not working my whole adult life.
Wellll....if you could have psychic powers on who is going to show up to work and not call in sick or the thousand of other unplanned things that could happen in a 24-hour restaurant maybe I could tell you. Especially around the Holidays. And I did work them and had to come home and have my house filled with family.

No true small business with one owner and once single unit in Oklahoma will be sweating Obamacare.

I'm pretty familiar with all the ones griping about Obamacare and they have many many units with hundreds of employees and other than management hardly that many full time to begin with.

Full time is their management with a salary that ends up working 60 hours a week for a salary. We've had people quit the restaurant to go work as management for them like Olive Garden and Red Lobster and usually leaving there when they figure out that they were making more getting paid by the hour 40 hours a week than salaried full time for those big chains. That's why they are always hiring.

I don't think you are a lesser person but someone who conveniently forgets about others not in your circumstances. Your already in retirement collecting social security and Medicare. Nor is your husband or you having to be cared for in a nursing home at the present time.

I'm learning real quick managing my father's assets, really both parents assets when my mom had her stroke and paying for her care. I had to sell their home and their rental and dealing with my father's failing mental health and heart issues. All topped off with my brother's fatal cancer diagnosis with lousy insurance and his employers keeping most employees at 38 or 39 hours so they won't be full time. Way before Obamacare. They've been playing those games with employees a long..long time now. My MS is just the cherry on the shit pile when it comes to insurance companies.

I really don't think that your in any way concerned about Medicare or you would not have voted for the party that has always dedicated themselves to getting rid of it. Or you are one of those Okie voters that vote against their own interest. So that's why it's hard to take you seriously as someone with an informed opinion.

After all you voted for Mr. Tax Evader for President and after that my opinion of your political and economic judgement was seriously compromised. After all the debate and stories we had on here about his tax evasion and his parties complete dismissal of the middle class and those not a member of the Richey Rich club so you were obviously informed of your choice and went with it anyway.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#35049 Jan 8, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I felt sorry for the mom with 3 kids they were interviewing. As for sorry as long as sick people exist and so on......It just isnot going as smooth as you talk about.
By the way if you had to pay for your employee's healthcare just how much would it cost you. Remember you are not helping pay you are paying all of it. Lets say per month. Would it cause a hardship on you and your husband? Yes caring for the poor is the right thing as long as the are not lazy poor!
Well it's not the lazy poor adult on Medicaid it's his children that you would make pay for him or her being lazy. Or the vet that got mentally messed up and lives on the street which they are a lot of them. Now their just committing suicide in more numbers than getting killed in action in our wars. And many end up on the street and your paying for that also. So unless you have each individual story generalizing all the poor and making them pay for your imagined laziness.

Nor or we going back to the days of letting someone die in the streets from lack of funds. And those poor people or illegals not getting treated in our hospitals is a sure way of spreading communicable diseases left untreated to the rest of us. We already have staff infections that are immune to all but one medicine and that costs hundreds for just one pill. So leaving them untreated is a clear and present danger to the rest of the population. Ask the CDC.
Elohimsokie

Broken Bow, OK

#35050 Jan 8, 2013
Obamacare passed as a tax not heathcare.
What gives gov. the right to make people buy insurance. COMMUNIST
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35051 Jan 8, 2013
To Miss Justaminute:
Well all I have to say to you is during my life been there and done that except have loss my brother to cancer. Every one has great problems. They may not be the same as yours but they do.
As far as Medicare, I learn something new about it with every retirement steps we take. Since we have be on Medicare and we both turned 70 2012 we had not had a long term illness that we ended up in the hospital for any length of time until I went in for emergency surgery the first of October. I never gave it a thought that medicare had 2 deductibles until then. All anyone hears about is the $140 for part B and never hear of talk about the deductible for part A and it is not a one time pay out if you have several returns back into the hospital. The first time deductible is $1,056.. Then if you end back in there is another charge. So yes I give medicare alot of thought. I am very close to how health insurance affects people. I have 2 get it 2 daughter-in-laws that are high risk. And I worry all the time how health insurance changes will affect them and their family. Both their husbands my sons have been very lucky to have kept their jobs. Both DILs have also beenvery lucky in keeping their full time jobs. But if this had not happened they would have been in a world of hurt!
I voted for Obama the first time around and I just did not like as the 4 years went by. And the very first in my voted life I voted for a Republican. Not because I liked all their policies. But I also did not like all of the Democrats policies. So now Miss Just take me out and hang me! I am actually not happy with either party at this time. So you think I donot care well I think you only care what affects YOU!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35052 Jan 8, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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Well it's not the lazy poor adult on Medicaid it's his children that you would make pay for him or her being lazy. Or the vet that got mentally messed up and lives on the street which they are a lot of them. Now their just committing suicide in more numbers than getting killed in action in our wars. And many end up on the street and your paying for that also. So unless you have each individual story generalizing all the poor and making them pay for your imagined laziness.
Nor or we going back to the days of letting someone die in the streets from lack of funds. And those poor people or illegals not getting treated in our hospitals is a sure way of spreading communicable diseases left untreated to the rest of us. We already have staff infections that are immune to all but one medicine and that costs hundreds for just one pill. So leaving them untreated is a clear and present danger to the rest of the population. Ask the CDC.
Again you take it to the extreme to what I said. You are one of the most dramatic people I have come in contact with. I could almost take you serious if you did not act like the Democrats have all the answers to this county's problem No one party is perfect!

Since: Jul 12

Oklahoma City, OK

#35053 Jan 8, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
After a nice break from politics I came back to find that Republicans in Congress have less favorable ratings in the polls than syphilis. HA HA
And they are going to use the debt ceiling again as a hostage to try and blackmail their way into destroying social security, Medicare and Medicaid.
Republicans and the Somali pirates have a lot in common.
Bye bye Republicans, all we Dems have to do is stand back and watch you destroy your party. It's almost going, going, gone.
Yes, it's unfortunate, but there's no Republicanism left within the right. It's been perverted by the political affiliation of Republicanism to religion and social reform.

However, I still feel more comfortable with the right-wing asshats than the left-wing die-hard support of legal policies centered around the DMCA, the NGI, FISA and other small business killers. Eventually, I want to be my own boss, and I might unfortunately have to move out of the United States to do that.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35054 Jan 8, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
<quoted text>You never give specifics. You just talk in generalities. Your a walking talking Republican water carrier now.
Sorry as long as sick people exist in America health care has to be paid for. It's no surprise. You either make the employer help pick up the costs or drive health care costs down or let people start dying of preventable illnesses or have a national health insurance that every body pays into. That's your choices. Agitating for doing nothing is frankly stupid. That's what drove health insurance costs up the last 30 or 40 years.
And I heard caring for the poor and the sick was the Christian thing that you supposed Christians were supposed to be doing. In fact Jesus talked way more about that than abortions, gays or any of the other things that get you all Christiany. Isn't that so?
You do know it is not HELP the employers pick up the tab for employees health ins it is the employer paying 100% of the employees premium for health insurance. Before it was not a law they had to do it like now it is the law. Before 'most' employers paid 80% of the premium and employees paid 20% of premiums. What drove health insurance is people that had no health insurance and made no attempt to pay towards their bills. So Cost of health care went therefore cost of health insurance went up!
Jinx

United States

#35055 Jan 8, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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Now that's laugh after Tamara kept taking pot shots at me for the last 3 or 4 posts.
Your obviously an old troll with a new name. You must have at least a dozen by now. Your jerkeyness is what gives you guys away every time. Can't debate with a damn.
I see my guess hit a nerve you are a fatass and live off the work of your husband but you think you have the right to accuse someone else. You are a hypocrite.

There is no debate about who and what you are...subject closed.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#35056 Jan 8, 2013
Jinx wrote:
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I see my guess hit a nerve you are a fatass and live off the work of your husband but you think you have the right to accuse someone else. You are a hypocrite.
There is no debate about who and what you are...subject closed.
I read that your just a flame throwing asshat that spends their time like a monkey throwing it's shit around. Get lost.

Since: Jul 12

Oklahoma City, OK

#35057 Jan 8, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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I read that your just a flame throwing asshat that spends their time like a monkey throwing it's shit around. Get lost.
Oh, the respect and intellect here knows no bounds...
ToldYouSo

Cushing, OK

#35058 Jan 9, 2013
"The president is going to act," said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."

Biden said that this is a moral issue and that "it's critically important that we act."

Biden talked also about taking responsible action. "As the president said, if you're actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking. But I'm convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of Americans and take thousands of people out of harm's way if we act responsibly."

Biden, as he himself noted, helped write the Brady bill.

Eric Holder was scheduled to be at the meeting that's currently taking place at the White House.

Since: Jul 12

Oklahoma City, OK

#35059 Jan 9, 2013
ToldYouSo wrote:
"The president is going to act," said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."
Biden said that this is a moral issue and that "it's critically important that we act."
Biden talked also about taking responsible action. "As the president said, if you're actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking. But I'm convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of Americans and take thousands of people out of harm's way if we act responsibly."
Biden, as he himself noted, helped write the Brady bill.
Eric Holder was scheduled to be at the meeting that's currently taking place at the White House.
Great. The world police force is becoming a thing.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#35060 Jan 9, 2013
Hats off to Sheriff Joe Arpaio for forming armed civilian posse to guard the schools.

Since: Jul 12

Oklahoma City, OK

#35061 Jan 9, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
Hats off to Sheriff Joe Arpaio for forming armed civilian posse to guard the schools.
Woah! Didn't hear about that.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2013/010...

Actually, this is pretty cool.
Elohimsokie

Broken Bow, OK

#35062 Jan 9, 2013
If guns are banned and took away from citizens than get ready for U.N. Agenda 21 to be fully enforced. This is the real reason for the gun grab.
Jinx

United States

#35063 Jan 9, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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I read that your just a flame throwing asshat that spends their time like a monkey throwing it's shit around. Get lost.
You first fat bimbo!

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