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OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Since: Apr 10

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#34397 Nov 25, 2012
dusted outlaw wrote:
Another bill Clinton jr
Bill Clinton was the best president of our lifetimes. Obama only wishes he was as good as Clinton.
Lady

Hugo, OK

#34398 Nov 25, 2012
obama is only registered as Democratic, he is of the Green Party. Check your facts, folks, know the truth although, it is too late now for some of you to admit the truth because you have voted in the biggest con America has ever faced. Thank you, voters for obama for listening to the lies and spreading them, you have thrown away our freedoms and liberties. Check the facts, know the truth and see what you did.
Lady

Hugo, OK

#34399 Nov 25, 2012
Rational Tulsans wrote:
George W Bush started a major war (or the invasion of a nation) based upon LIES, LIES, LIES!!!!!!!
"WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION??????????
White conservative Obama hating KKKers, where are those weapons????
Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools and accepted by idiots and truly are not rational.
River Rat

Hugo, OK

#34400 Nov 25, 2012
DustyOutlaw wrote:
<quoted text>
Bill Clinton was the best president of our lifetimes. Obama only wishes he was as good as Clinton.
DustyOutlaw, the record speaks for itself, Clinton had a Republican house and Republican senate. How does Clinton get the credit if he doesn't write the bills? And, Bush had a Democratic house and Democratic senate. How does Bush get the blame if he doesn't write the bills? Some people should pay more attention to facts instead listening to rumors and lies instead of the truth.
River Rat

Stigler, OK

#34401 Nov 25, 2012
Rational Tulsans wrote:
George W Bush started a major war (or the invasion of a nation) based upon LIES, LIES, LIES!!!!!!!
"WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION??????????
White conservative Obama hating KKKers, where are those weapons????
Bush had a Democratic house and Democratic senate and any one of the Democratic house or senate could have voted against the war but, they didn't. The Democratic Party is the racist party and distracted the Democratic voters with the lies against the GOP to distract from the truth that obama had nothing to run on. obamacare is going to bankrupt the United States, thanks for your vote.
River Rat

Stigler, OK

#34402 Nov 25, 2012
Rational Tulsans wrote:
<quoted text>
Blame Walmart for small businesses drifting away. Also, every modern nation in the world has national healthcare. You are just mad because the President is Black and he kicked your ass twice.
Dear Unrational, you are not saying anything that wasn't programmed into you by the Democratic Party which is sponsored by the Communist Party of America (google ~ Communist Party of America applauds Obama). Or use search engine of your choice ~ Communist Party of America applauds Obama. Also, see ~ Dictators in support of Obama.

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#34403 Nov 25, 2012
River Rat wrote:
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DustyOutlaw, the record speaks for itself, Clinton had a Republican house and Republican senate. How does Clinton get the credit if he doesn't write the bills? And, Bush had a Democratic house and Democratic senate. How does Bush get the blame if he doesn't write the bills? Some people should pay more attention to facts instead listening to rumors and lies instead of the truth.
Bush had a Republican Congress for 6 of 8 years. During all the tax cuts for the rich and weakening of regulations which resulted in the meltdown were passed. Jesus Christ do you people ever get tired of lying.

The GOP never had the votes to override a Clinton veto. So Clinton gets the credit. Not the GOP. You're an idiot and it's unfortunate duty to inform you that you are an idiot without the slightest bit of political insight as to how this country is run.
River Rat

Stigler, OK

#34404 Nov 25, 2012
Our president is a Muslim, he has admitted that he is and, he does not care about Americans, whether they be black or white. The Communist Party of America applauds obama and the Right Wing aka Conservatives aka Republicans aka GOP aka TEA Party have been fighting for our rights against the Liberals aka Democrats aka Left Wing and the Democratic voters did not want to listen to the truth. Didn't obama say that if he didn't have our country back on track in three years that we could call him a one term president? So how many unemployed are there that aren't even being counted now and how many companies have closed their doors since the reelection of obama?

Since: Apr 10

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#34405 Nov 25, 2012
River Rat wrote:
Our president is a Muslim, he has admitted that he is and, he does not care about Americans, whether they be black or white. The Communist Party of America applauds obama and the Right Wing aka Conservatives aka Republicans aka GOP aka TEA Party have been fighting for our rights against the Liberals aka Democrats aka Left Wing and the Democratic voters did not want to listen to the truth. Didn't obama say that if he didn't have our country back on track in three years that we could call him a one term president? So how many unemployed are there that aren't even being counted now and how many companies have closed their doors since the reelection of obama?
Are you on crack?
River Rat

Stigler, OK

#34406 Nov 25, 2012
Don't worry I'm not taken your crack
duh

Smithville, OK

#34407 Nov 25, 2012
DustyOutlaw wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you on crack?
you didn't watch first election and I didn't watch the second election
duh

Smithville, OK

#34408 Nov 25, 2012
Somebody didn't check the NY times out to night

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#34409 Nov 25, 2012
River Rat wrote:
<quoted text>
DustyOutlaw, the record speaks for itself, Clinton had a Republican house and Republican senate. How does Clinton get the credit if he doesn't write the bills? And, Bush had a Democratic house and Democratic senate. How does Bush get the blame if he doesn't write the bills? Some people should pay more attention to facts instead listening to rumors and lies instead of the truth.
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>>>. How does Clinton get the credit if he doesn't write the bills<<<

Easy. He took his issues to the people who in turn pressured Congress to support them. It is why the Republicans tried to discredit Clinton so he wouldn't have influence with the public and thus would not have the publics support for legislation he wanted. It didn't work. The entire GOP attempt to discredit Clinton and make him untrustworthy backfired on the Republicans.

GOP had best lawyers money can buy and they couldn't snare Willie boy. He made fools of them.

Since: Sep 12

Groningen, Netherlands

#34410 Nov 26, 2012
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Explain what you mean when you say "A Health care system would completely take away the burden companies have now to supply or subsuze the health insurance for their employees." Can you show me where you got your information intaking the burden off the employer to furnish the employees health insurance. In alot of cases the employer pays 80% and the employee pays 20% of the health insurance premium. What I understand the employer will be forced to pay for the employee 100% of their ins. premium. I just would be interested in reading source of your information.
Tamara,

My source is my common sense. The whole entire purpose of any health care system is to make health care insurance affordable and legally the responsibility of the individual. I live in the Dutch health care system, which is what Obama said he used to model his health care plan. Companies here do not pay and have no reason to pay or subsidize health insurance for their workers, because every individual here has to pay their own insurance.(people taking responsibility for themselves) Lower income families here get their health insurance subsidized by the government. Companies pay NOTHING.
Do YOU have information on Obama's healthcare plan that states otherwise?? Then I would be interested in seeing that because it makes no sense to me that companies would have to DOUBLE insure their workers.

Since: Sep 12

Groningen, Netherlands

#34411 Nov 26, 2012
Proud to be Conservative wrote:
The mandate in obamacare isn't going to be so fine and dandy when you can't get the health care you need and have to go to jail for not paying for this insurance and Americans will be paying out the bazongas for this 'free health care for all' that is not free but, is a Control Bill and health care will be rationed. You will not get the health care you or your family really need. It isn't about health care, it is about control.
Strangely enough, it works here just fine. Do you think Americans are unable for some reason to make a good healthcare system just like many other countries already have?

Since: Sep 12

Groningen, Netherlands

#34412 Nov 26, 2012
Lady wrote:
obama is only registered as Democratic, he is of the Green Party. Check your facts, folks, know the truth although, it is too late now for some of you to admit the truth because you have voted in the biggest con America has ever faced. Thank you, voters for obama for listening to the lies and spreading them, you have thrown away our freedoms and liberties. Check the facts, know the truth and see what you did.
Oh, so you will fight for Tamara to have the right to vote for a Republican, but when it comes to anyone who voted Democrat, you through out the ignorance and guilt cards?

Yea, right.

Since: Sep 12

Groningen, Netherlands

#34413 Nov 26, 2012
correction: throw
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34414 Nov 26, 2012
OkieAbroad wrote:
<quoted text>
Tamara,
My source is my common sense. The whole entire purpose of any health care system is to make health care insurance affordable and legally the responsibility of the individual. I live in the Dutch health care system, which is what Obama said he used to model his health care plan. Companies here do not pay and have no reason to pay or subsidize health insurance for their workers, because every individual here has to pay their own insurance.(people taking responsibility for themselves) Lower income families here get their health insurance subsidized by the government. Companies pay NOTHING.
Do YOU have information on Obama's healthcare plan that states otherwise?? Then I would be interested in seeing that because it makes no sense to me that companies would have to DOUBLE insure their workers.
Obama's health care plan will include the employers with a certain total of employees working for the to provide health insurance for their employees. If the employer does not then they will be fined so much each year they do not just like any individual that does not carry health insurance.. The way it stands now the government will not be the total health insurance carrier. You will be able to get health insurance thru private health insurance companies. About all the Obamacare really did as it stands now is make it illegal not to have health insurance. If you are in a certain income bracket you will get help pay for it or be put on the medicaid program. One good thing is no one can be turn down for health ins. because of pre-existing conditions. So from what you are saying I donot think our Obamacare will be like what you are talking about. You might get update info on this if you go to Obama Health care.gov .
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34415 Nov 26, 2012
Olkie Abroad your post of 34412 and the person You posted to did not have my name in their post! As far as I am concern we have the freedom to vote for whom ever we want! If I want to vote Democrat then I do and I have and if I want to vote Republican then I do and I have!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34416 Nov 26, 2012
OkieAbroad wrote:
<quoted text>
Tamara,
My source is my common sense. The whole entire purpose of any health care system is to make health care insurance affordable and legally the responsibility of the individual. I live in the Dutch health care system, which is what Obama said he used to model his health care plan. Companies here do not pay and have no reason to pay or subsidize health insurance for their workers, because every individual here has to pay their own insurance.(people taking responsibility for themselves) Lower income families here get their health insurance subsidized by the government. Companies pay NOTHING.
Do YOU have information on Obama's healthcare plan that states otherwise?? Then I would be interested in seeing that because it makes no sense to me that companies would have to DOUBLE insure their workers.
How would a company be doubling insuring their employees? The employee would get their health insurance thru who they work for or opt and go out on their own and get their own health insurance. Its an either or thing.

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