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OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Dana

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Not the devastating to the nation right-wing kind of cronyism.
Horse apples on steroids!
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Oh, yeah and blame Bush...
January 3, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.

The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy? BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

Unemployment... to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!

Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie - starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy. And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA

And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?
OBAMA and the Democrat Congress.

REMEMBER JANUARY 3, 2007.... THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"

Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democrat Party.

Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 & 2011. In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budgets.

And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009.

If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself. In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.

"If You Ain't Mad, You Ain't Payin' Attention!"
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The Democrat Party is the KKK leaders and the Republican Party was founded by Black Conservatives. Do not kid yourselves, it is the Democrat Party against our freedoms. Read your history folks, know the truth! Mr. King, JR. was a Republican.

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Another bill Clinton jr
Bill Clinton was the best president of our lifetimes. Obama only wishes he was as good as Clinton.
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obama is only registered as Democratic, he is of the Green Party. Check your facts, folks, know the truth although, it is too late now for some of you to admit the truth because you have voted in the biggest con America has ever faced. Thank you, voters for obama for listening to the lies and spreading them, you have thrown away our freedoms and liberties. Check the facts, know the truth and see what you did.
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Rational Tulsans wrote:
George W Bush started a major war (or the invasion of a nation) based upon LIES, LIES, LIES!!!!!!!
"WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION??????????
White conservative Obama hating KKKers, where are those weapons????
Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools and accepted by idiots and truly are not rational.
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Bill Clinton was the best president of our lifetimes. Obama only wishes he was as good as Clinton.
DustyOutlaw, the record speaks for itself, Clinton had a Republican house and Republican senate. How does Clinton get the credit if he doesn't write the bills? And, Bush had a Democratic house and Democratic senate. How does Bush get the blame if he doesn't write the bills? Some people should pay more attention to facts instead listening to rumors and lies instead of the truth.
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#34401
Nov 25, 2012
 
Rational Tulsans wrote:
George W Bush started a major war (or the invasion of a nation) based upon LIES, LIES, LIES!!!!!!!
"WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION??????????
White conservative Obama hating KKKers, where are those weapons????
Bush had a Democratic house and Democratic senate and any one of the Democratic house or senate could have voted against the war but, they didn't. The Democratic Party is the racist party and distracted the Democratic voters with the lies against the GOP to distract from the truth that obama had nothing to run on. obamacare is going to bankrupt the United States, thanks for your vote.
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Rational Tulsans wrote:
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Blame Walmart for small businesses drifting away. Also, every modern nation in the world has national healthcare. You are just mad because the President is Black and he kicked your ass twice.
Dear Unrational, you are not saying anything that wasn't programmed into you by the Democratic Party which is sponsored by the Communist Party of America (google ~ Communist Party of America applauds Obama). Or use search engine of your choice ~ Communist Party of America applauds Obama. Also, see ~ Dictators in support of Obama.

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River Rat wrote:
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DustyOutlaw, the record speaks for itself, Clinton had a Republican house and Republican senate. How does Clinton get the credit if he doesn't write the bills? And, Bush had a Democratic house and Democratic senate. How does Bush get the blame if he doesn't write the bills? Some people should pay more attention to facts instead listening to rumors and lies instead of the truth.
Bush had a Republican Congress for 6 of 8 years. During all the tax cuts for the rich and weakening of regulations which resulted in the meltdown were passed. Jesus Christ do you people ever get tired of lying.

The GOP never had the votes to override a Clinton veto. So Clinton gets the credit. Not the GOP. You're an idiot and it's unfortunate duty to inform you that you are an idiot without the slightest bit of political insight as to how this country is run.
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Our president is a Muslim, he has admitted that he is and, he does not care about Americans, whether they be black or white. The Communist Party of America applauds obama and the Right Wing aka Conservatives aka Republicans aka GOP aka TEA Party have been fighting for our rights against the Liberals aka Democrats aka Left Wing and the Democratic voters did not want to listen to the truth. Didn't obama say that if he didn't have our country back on track in three years that we could call him a one term president? So how many unemployed are there that aren't even being counted now and how many companies have closed their doors since the reelection of obama?

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River Rat wrote:
Our president is a Muslim, he has admitted that he is and, he does not care about Americans, whether they be black or white. The Communist Party of America applauds obama and the Right Wing aka Conservatives aka Republicans aka GOP aka TEA Party have been fighting for our rights against the Liberals aka Democrats aka Left Wing and the Democratic voters did not want to listen to the truth. Didn't obama say that if he didn't have our country back on track in three years that we could call him a one term president? So how many unemployed are there that aren't even being counted now and how many companies have closed their doors since the reelection of obama?
Are you on crack?
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Don't worry I'm not taken your crack
duh

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Are you on crack?
you didn't watch first election and I didn't watch the second election
duh

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#34408
Nov 25, 2012
 
Somebody didn't check the NY times out to night

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Nov 25, 2012
 
River Rat wrote:
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DustyOutlaw, the record speaks for itself, Clinton had a Republican house and Republican senate. How does Clinton get the credit if he doesn't write the bills? And, Bush had a Democratic house and Democratic senate. How does Bush get the blame if he doesn't write the bills? Some people should pay more attention to facts instead listening to rumors and lies instead of the truth.
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>>>. How does Clinton get the credit if he doesn't write the bills<<<

Easy. He took his issues to the people who in turn pressured Congress to support them. It is why the Republicans tried to discredit Clinton so he wouldn't have influence with the public and thus would not have the publics support for legislation he wanted. It didn't work. The entire GOP attempt to discredit Clinton and make him untrustworthy backfired on the Republicans.

GOP had best lawyers money can buy and they couldn't snare Willie boy. He made fools of them.

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TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Explain what you mean when you say "A Health care system would completely take away the burden companies have now to supply or subsuze the health insurance for their employees." Can you show me where you got your information intaking the burden off the employer to furnish the employees health insurance. In alot of cases the employer pays 80% and the employee pays 20% of the health insurance premium. What I understand the employer will be forced to pay for the employee 100% of their ins. premium. I just would be interested in reading source of your information.
Tamara,

My source is my common sense. The whole entire purpose of any health care system is to make health care insurance affordable and legally the responsibility of the individual. I live in the Dutch health care system, which is what Obama said he used to model his health care plan. Companies here do not pay and have no reason to pay or subsidize health insurance for their workers, because every individual here has to pay their own insurance.(people taking responsibility for themselves) Lower income families here get their health insurance subsidized by the government. Companies pay NOTHING.
Do YOU have information on Obama's healthcare plan that states otherwise?? Then I would be interested in seeing that because it makes no sense to me that companies would have to DOUBLE insure their workers.

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Nov 26, 2012
 
Proud to be Conservative wrote:
The mandate in obamacare isn't going to be so fine and dandy when you can't get the health care you need and have to go to jail for not paying for this insurance and Americans will be paying out the bazongas for this 'free health care for all' that is not free but, is a Control Bill and health care will be rationed. You will not get the health care you or your family really need. It isn't about health care, it is about control.
Strangely enough, it works here just fine. Do you think Americans are unable for some reason to make a good healthcare system just like many other countries already have?

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Lady wrote:
obama is only registered as Democratic, he is of the Green Party. Check your facts, folks, know the truth although, it is too late now for some of you to admit the truth because you have voted in the biggest con America has ever faced. Thank you, voters for obama for listening to the lies and spreading them, you have thrown away our freedoms and liberties. Check the facts, know the truth and see what you did.
Oh, so you will fight for Tamara to have the right to vote for a Republican, but when it comes to anyone who voted Democrat, you through out the ignorance and guilt cards?

Yea, right.

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Nov 26, 2012
 
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