Merrimon may grow up

There are 88 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Jul 16, 2007, titled Merrimon may grow up. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

Two 13-story buildings would rise on the western side of busy Merrimon Avenue under plans for a mixed-use development now being put together for the former Deal MotorCars property.

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Gay black mexican liberal

Berkeley, CA

#1 Jul 16, 2007
Well, Heather Rayburn, if this mixed-use urban infill on a huge parking lot is so "disgusting," what would you suggest instead?

While that type of rhetoric may please the BANANA crowds, it's not likely to have much influence on people with a more reasoned, subtle understanding of urban development.

I'm sure that some type of development would be great for the existing community - if you could acknowledge the benefits while expressing your concerns in a constructive manner, you'd be a lot more persuasive and effective.
The Truth Teller

Manteo, NC

#2 Jul 17, 2007
With the exception of the one negative comment from “Heather Rayburn”, it is in complete contrast from the “anti development” in “Asheville”.

This is more typical of the types of responses you normally hear when not in the Asheville area.

It’s sad actually that the small town of Marion will be better off in the future then Asheville. All because of “anti development” movement !!!

My hat is off to the folks in Marion,“Be not afraid to stretch your arms and legs, as it is healthy for your community”

Since: Jun 07

Inman, SC

#3 Jul 17, 2007
13 story buildings? On Merrimon? I'm getting dizzy just even imagining it.
DaGrizz

Maxton, NC

#4 Jul 17, 2007
Anyone who lives within eyesite of this project take note....4-5 yrs. to build, working 7 days a week, with the possibility of a 2nd shift working once the buildings are out of the ground.I've been in commercial construction for over 20 yrs. and I can tell you, projects like these are loud and messy. Be prepared for it, 5 yrs. is a long time.

Since: Feb 07

Middlesboro, KY

#5 Jul 17, 2007
What on earth is wrong with development? If you aren't growing, you are dying...it's as simple as that. For years, the dirt-worshipping crowd has been screaming about "density instead of sprawl". Now, several recent high density projects in and around downtown have been pushed in the past few years and they don't seem to like that either. Obviously, these folks are just anti-development. People with that mentality should find a nice communist country to move to, becase that's what their attitude represents.

Since: Jun 07

Inman, SC

#6 Jul 17, 2007
Joshua Wilkey wrote:
Obviously, these folks are just anti-development.
No, RLY? I NEVER got the idea that the tree-huggers of Asheville were anti-development.
TV is not Reality

Maxton, NC

#7 Jul 17, 2007
"If you aren't growing, you are dying...it's as simple as that." said Joshua Wilkey.

Not sure I agree with that in all cases. How about, "If you'e not growing, your're either staying the same, changing character without changing size, or decreasing in size". "Dying" seems a little dramatic, and the's no immediate risk of that for the Asheville area. Jumping to 13 stories on Merrimon IS a big change for the neighborhood, and talking it over thoroughly (and reasonably) is a good thing. I do predict that if a 13-story building rises in that location, more in the neighborhood will follow.
AVL

Swannanoa, NC

#8 Jul 17, 2007
My big problem i the traffic on that 2 lane road in each direction. Traffic is bad enough on that street!
wnc resident for peace

Auburn, AL

#9 Jul 17, 2007
What would Heather Rayburn do? She seems to be a "progressive against change." I can see that the current Deal Motor parking lot is really beautiful and unobtrusive but c'mon.
A Neighbor

Kill Devil Hills, NC

#10 Jul 17, 2007
Why is every attempt to maintain the charm, sanity and quality of life that we share in Asheville viewed as "anti-development?" or the same tired old quote - "If we don't grow, we die?" Get off this BS.

No one, including Heather, is saying not to develop that property. The neighbors are asking for a development that is in scale with the rest of the surrounding community and that won't block sunlight from their homes even in the summer! Thirteen stories is clearly NOT that scale.

What was the point of doing a Merrimon Ave. Corridor study with the residents if these guys think they can come in and be an exception? The rules are for all to follow ... not just the ones who can't afford to make a stink about it.

If Council had not extended the Urban Village rules on height limits for the sake of Biltmore Farms - aka "BUILD MORE FARMS" to 12 stories, this wouldn't be an issue. Urban Village designates 2-6 stories ... not 13!

For those who long for tall buildings and skyscrapers ... move to Atlanta or Charlotte - or some other "communist country." But please, let's keep Asheville's charm intact.
Commuter

Asheville, NC

#11 Jul 17, 2007
Merrimon Ave traffic is already a nightmare- I can't even imagine how bad it will be during and after the years it will take to build this new monstrosity.

Growth can be good, but not when it cripples the ability to patronize businesses, get to work, etc.
Ted Underhill

Auburn, AL

#12 Jul 17, 2007
I doubt this project will get built in this scale. Methinks it is an attempt to get approval for a smaller project that otherwise would have met resistance as well--a negotiating tactic.

Since: Jun 07

Inman, SC

#13 Jul 17, 2007
A Neighbor wrote:
If Council had not extended the Urban Village rules on height limits for the sake of Biltmore Farms - aka "BUILD MORE FARMS" to 12 stories, this wouldn't be an issue.
Yah, everything revolves around Biltmore this, Biltmore that in this godforsaken city.
TV is not Reality

Maxton, NC

#14 Jul 17, 2007
Ted Underhill wrote:
I doubt this project will get built in this scale. Methinks it is an attempt to get approval for a smaller project that otherwise would have met resistance as well--a negotiating tactic.
Good insight. I agree. Note the lack of a "real plan" at this stage.

“BEAT A PAIR OF JACK'S & A FOX ”

Since: Feb 07

ASHEVILLE

#15 Jul 17, 2007
Commuter wrote:
Merrimon Ave traffic is already a nightmare- I can't even imagine how bad it will be during and after the years it will take to build this new monstrosity.
Growth can be good, but not when it cripples the ability to patronize businesses, get to work, etc.
just get in line the red light will turn green soon enough.
mtnmomma

Morganton, NC

#16 Jul 17, 2007
Chris Peterson is a local developer. He has never served on the City Council. Brian Peterson is the former councilman who is an atty.
hauntedheadnc

United States

#17 Jul 17, 2007
A Neighbor wrote:
For those who long for tall buildings and skyscrapers ... move to Atlanta or Charlotte - or some other "communist country." But please, let's keep Asheville's charm intact.
And for those who want Mayberry, the real-life counterpart, Mt. Airy, is down in Surry County. It's been pointed out a thousand times on here, but it just keeps bouncing off the NIMBY's bulletproof skulls: Asheville is not a itsby bitsy teensy weensy cutesy wootsy lil bitty village just so full of charmingness and quaintsy cuteness that it oozes out of every crack and you have to wipe your shoes when you come inside lest you track it all over the living room carpet.

Asheville gave up on being a small town and started building skyscrapers 80 years ago. The only reason it stopped, and the only reason people know it as a little backwater where nothing was going on and nothing was getting built was because the Depression hit and made it stop. Now that its economy is as good as it was back in the 1920's, the skyscrapers are going up again. Personally, I'm happy that things are back to normal again. If you want just the most adorable little town in three states, you'll need to go find it because it's not Asheville and hasn't been since 1927 or so. Earlier actually, because Asheville's destiny as a small village changed irrevocably right about the time that George Vanderbilt checked into Frank Coxe's Old Battery Park Hotel.

I'm for this project. It looks great. And as another poster pointed out, yes it will take a few years to construct. Who knew? I thought buildings like this were delivered silently in the night by the stork.

Since: Mar 07

Asheville

#18 Jul 17, 2007
I would be very surprised if Heather Rayburn opposed developing this old car dealership site. She seems to be a very caring and neighborly person who simply opposes putting up something so HUGE. The proposal is totally out of scale for that neighborhood.

I thought that a group had just completed a process that determined the maximum height of new buildings on Merrimon Avenue north of I-240 and south of Weaver Blvd should be four stories. That would make sense for this neighborhood (where things are mostly one or two stories now). How in heaven's name could something this big fit into that model? It just doesn't make any sense.
jimtash

Gaffney, SC

#19 Jul 17, 2007
mtnmomma wrote:
Chris Peterson is a local developer. He has never served on the City Council. Brian Peterson is the former councilman who is an atty.
Peterson was on council in the 1990's, get your facts straight.
jimtash

Gaffney, SC

#20 Jul 17, 2007
Chris Peterson I meant to say.

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