Longtime GOP Texas Gov. Perry wins another term

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Republican Gov. Rick Perry has defeated Democrat Bill White to win a third four-year term as Texas governor.

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<quoted text> Look forward to another psychotic interpretation of what passes for reality from Forand.
I aim to please you with this one. Ah here we go into the summer of 2013. Liberals are rolling out the barrels for fun and singing on sunshine. Resting in shaded pools of the cool, cool changes evolving. A higher evolution to our politics’ maturity is budding forth once again. In the past decade “We The People” have examined ourselves and found us wanting to step out of the gloom and doom scenarios of the traditionalist conservative views of the past.
Shackles of prejudice are falling to the ground. Mary Jane is now identified with beneficial outcomes. Illegal immigrants are observing a light at the end of the tunnel. Gays are growing in their freedoms to be gay. America is awakening to be once again the land of the diverse melting pot it once was. Rejuvenating strengths that was always their fundamental strengths‘.
Demographics of the ideologies of Jim Crow, John Birch or the hyped up McCarthy are fading into the archaic dust bins of our history. Another dark chapter of our growing pains.“We The People” have reached a majority that choose to distance themselves from the gloom and doom policies that promote these dysfunctional callow ideologies.
51% are now in favor of gays to be gay. 72% agree that this is inevitable. Mary Jane up 11 points from 2010. Previously only less than 1/3 comprehended its beneficial factors. This according to Pew Polls. CBS/N.Y. Times poll have discovered 83% favor a path to citizenship for the illegal immigrants. 20% higher than the 2007 Pew Polls. Which was the last time this issue was addressed.
Business scholar Fariborz Ghadar, from the Center Of Strategic and International Affaires explains what is occurring. Quote “ Whether it’s war on terror or the recession or this or that; Society then reacts to those periods and change results” he goes on to say “The younger generation is getting more accepting, the pace of change is much faster, data is available to us more quickly. We’re more plugged in to the world around us and its combining to allow people to develop their own opinions and be open to others”.
1980’s generation grew up with 911 and the gloom and doom of the past of the bushwhacking days. They are now 18 to 32. Here in lies the moving force for the abrupt change in right wing polarization to left wing polarization.
Similar to the 60’s after the Nam episodes. Social rights sprouted, as it is now with the 80’s generation.
Today we have instant communication and knowledge at our finger tips. Fraudulent propaganda schemes of our past prejudices become exposed. Observe the effect on programs such as “Weeds, Modern Family and Ugly Betty” to name a few. They stimulate diversity and liberalization. Advancing the goals of the broad open minded liberal, as opposed to the narrow close minded conservative. There will continue to be gloomy times. They however are advocating their own demise with each experienced generation that follows. Growing in intellect and controlling, the gloom and doom scenarios. Science will soon render these gloomy days for agricultural benefits. Removing them from authority based organizations. Obama once said “ Each successive generation creates a new space for peace and tolerance and justice and fairness” Right to the point.
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Liberal California... Going nowhere fast. Wealthy Californians are moving to Texas. In fact, looks like all kinds of Californians are moving to Texas. Looks like people vote with their feet. Got that Forand? Does that anger you? After all, actions speak louder than words. Californians wouldn't be coming to Texas, unless Texas presented OPPORTUNITY!!!
You still have NOT showed us your calculations that supports your comment of 10’s of Thousands Daily if any. Indicates your comments are nothing more then pure fabrication. Now back to the subject.
The Chasm Widens.
Illinois {R} have elected a new chairman to lead their party. Pat Brady resigned lat month. Citing his wife’s her fight with cancer and family matters. Complaints have arisen from the “Conservative”{Tea Party} Republicans on Pat’s support for gay marriage. This was another factor that weighed in Pat’s decision. After 6 years as a republican he has lost interest as to the direction of the present republican party.
Jack Doragan of Rosemont Illinois will be replacing Pat. Jack is expected to bridge the ever increasing chasm within the republican party. Jack does not commit as to how he stands on gay marriage. Jack carries the hope and aspirations of the divided republicans that suffered a sweeping defeat in the 2012 elections.
Committeeman Walsh, who recently lost his seat to {D} Tammy Duckwont , sums up well the flagging republican party archaic ideologies. Walsh say’s “Even the private door process of selecting a chairman was emblematic of problems.” Goes on to say “ We should be speaking to a ballroom of 1,000 republicans right now. My god folks the party is breaking up. If we don’t pick someone who will energize the base, the party will wither away.}
Jack figures that what is required is a party of a “Big Tent Organization”; Further admonishing the failure for their legislators to do their jobs and legislate. Site the recent example of how republicans obstructed to bring a bill up for debate this past weekend before the session ended, at the state capitol. Jack says “ Whether you like government or you don’t, its there and it is a necessity”! Does that sound familiar? Hmmmm
“The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.” Winston Churchill
just saying…
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FYI, only three auction's for the state of Texas.

What point are trying to make? You do realize that the greater the amount of bond sales is a strong indicator of credit worthiness. Bonds go out for investors to buy into some political on non political activity. Guaranteeing a return of investment. Some are fixed returns others are not. That Texas has only 3 is not good. Indicates lack of investors interest in Texas and or its credit. You have merely exposed that California is rocketing ahead in investments as Texas is fumbling about. If you get that simple investment screwed up in your comprehension then try this one. I call it the Investors Gambit against the bankers investments. Have fun..
Illegal auctions on the foreclosed markets has come to light in a Federal investigation. At the height of the finical crisis. Bargain hunters would gather on the county courts steps to bid on houses and businesses up for auction. Some of these bidders organized to have only one bidder to bid and low bid the auctioned property. Edging out prospective bidders with intimidation techniques. Thus obtaining some properties at a substantial lost in its value that the banks would then be forced to pick up. Then these bidders would hold their own private auction amongst themselves.
In steps the Feds and have brought fines and even jail sentences for some of these groups. At present they have limited their investigations to California, Alabama and N. Carolina. Hmmm
Wonder if the Feds will balance their investigations and investigate the banks for their deceitful practices of advertising their properties up for auctions in some backwater newspaper. Then they send their one bid of as low as $100 for the property. No one there to bid other than themselves.
Senator Elizabeth Warren {D} of Massachusetts is already swamped in the corruptions of Wall Street institutions and their bankers. Hope she comes to find the time. As she is a staunch supporter of the American consumer.
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Yeah yeah Barney blah blah blah.
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What point are trying to make? You do realize that the greater the amount of bond sales is a strong indicator of credit worthiness. Bonds go out for investors to buy into some political on non political activity. Guaranteeing a return of investment. Some are fixed returns others are not. That Texas has only 3 is not good. Indicates lack of investors interest in Texas and or its credit. You have merely exposed that California is rocketing ahead in investments as Texas is fumbling about. If you get that simple investment screwed up in your comprehension then try this one. I call it the Investors Gambit against the bankers investments. Have fun..
Illegal auctions on the foreclosed markets has come to light in a Federal investigation. At the height of the finical crisis. Bargain hunters would gather on the county courts steps to bid on houses and businesses up for auction. Some of these bidders organized to have only one bidder to bid and low bid the auctioned property. Edging out prospective bidders with intimidation techniques. Thus obtaining some properties at a substantial lost in its value that the banks would then be forced to pick up. Then these bidders would hold their own private auction amongst themselves.
In steps the Feds and have brought fines and even jail sentences for some of these groups. At present they have limited their investigations to California, Alabama and N. Carolina. Hmmm
Wonder if the Feds will balance their investigations and investigate the banks for their deceitful practices of advertising their properties up for auctions in some backwater newspaper. Then they send their one bid of as low as $100 for the property. No one there to bid other than themselves.
Senator Elizabeth Warren {D} of Massachusetts is already swamped in the corruptions of Wall Street institutions and their bankers. Hope she comes to find the time. As she is a staunch supporter of the American consumer.
Simple question, would your buy Stockton California bonds? Would your buy bond from Detroit Michigan? I don't think those bonds are doing very well or Detroit could pay their power bill.
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What point are trying to make? You do realize that the greater the amount of bond sales is a strong indicator of credit worthiness. Bonds go out for investors to buy into some political on non political activity. Guaranteeing a return of investment. Some are fixed returns others are not. That Texas has only 3 is not good. Indicates lack of investors interest in Texas and or its credit. You have merely exposed that California is rocketing ahead in investments as Texas is fumbling about. If you get that simple investment screwed up in your comprehension then try this one. I call it the Investors Gambit against the bankers investments. Have fun..
Illegal auctions on the foreclosed markets has come to light in a Federal investigation. At the height of the finical crisis. Bargain hunters would gather on the county courts steps to bid on houses and businesses up for auction. Some of these bidders organized to have only one bidder to bid and low bid the auctioned property. Edging out prospective bidders with intimidation techniques. Thus obtaining some properties at a substantial lost in its value that the banks would then be forced to pick up. Then these bidders would hold their own private auction amongst themselves.
In steps the Feds and have brought fines and even jail sentences for some of these groups. At present they have limited their investigations to California, Alabama and N. Carolina. Hmmm
Wonder if the Feds will balance their investigations and investigate the banks for their deceitful practices of advertising their properties up for auctions in some backwater newspaper. Then they send their one bid of as low as $100 for the property. No one there to bid other than themselves.
Senator Elizabeth Warren {D} of Massachusetts is already swamped in the corruptions of Wall Street institutions and their bankers. Hope she comes to find the time. As she is a staunch supporter of the American consumer.
Here's some light reading courtesy of Forbes. http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcprosser/2013/... Are Municipal Bonds Currently A Good Investment?
The short answer is probably not. Certificates of deposit (CDs) are safer and have a major yield advantage, even after factoring in the tax benefits of municipal bonds.

There are two main reasons that investors like to buy municipal bonds: The income they produce is generally not taxable, and they are perceived to be super-safe investments. Let’s explore these reasons more closely to see if they are valid.
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<quoted text> Here's some light reading courtesy of Forbes. http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcprosser/2013/... Are Municipal Bonds Currently A Good Investment?
The short answer is probably not. Certificates of deposit (CDs) are safer and have a major yield advantage, even after factoring in the tax benefits of municipal bonds.
There are two main reasons that investors like to buy municipal bonds: The income they produce is generally not taxable, and they are perceived to be super-safe investments. Let’s explore these reasons more closely to see if they are valid.
Good point. Buying bonds is as any investment determined by the “Risk” factors. Greater the risk the higher the returns.“IF” you win. Lower the risk factor the lower the returns to profit.“IF” you win.. Here is an example how traders make use of this risk factor. Presently displayed on the stock markets.
Bernanke’s Surprise.
Markets Plunge on traders “Fears”. Traders prefer a volatile market. Presents them with greater opportunities to siphon additional wealth to the upper statuses’ of our affluent investors.
Actually its no surprise at all. Recent CBO report defined the need to commence the “Weaning” process. Weaning contains the elements of “Fear and sense of loss. Nature has demonstrated the importance of weaning to promote sturdy self reliance.
Majority of 24economic advisors agreed this is the time to begin our weaning from the governments assistances in our finical sectors. Traders play the “Fear” card.
Feds have been purchasing $85 billion per month in bonds to stimulate the economy. Bernanke announces they will later this year reduce this stimulus. Feds will keep interest rates low. Near zero percent, until unemployment reaches 6.5%. Then it will reassess their strategies. Traders “Fear” this will occur at the end of 2013 or early 2014.
Economy is growing faster than previously predicted 3 months ago. Markets plunge on traders “Fears”.{AP} surveyed the economic advisors and found them in agreement that this is the correct measure to proceed with at this time.
Economy has grown consistently at 2% for the past 3 years. Employers have been adding on average 180,000 new jobs per month. Reducing unemployment to 7.6%
Bernanke stresses that if indicators show this to be incorrect they will intervene and return to purchasing additional bonds.
Jerry Webman, chief economic at Oppenhmeimer Funds stated; “ If it stays on track… There would be no reason to maintain an aggressive policy that was “designed” to deal with a “substantially” weaker economy.
Continuing to purchase bonds at $85 billion per month would produce inflation and followed with its customary financial bubbles. It is more important to act sooner then later to curtail finical excesses.
Inflation indicator is presently at 1% well within the 2% acceptable range for inflation.“IF” it becomes too low then Feds normally keep rates low too boost the economy. This straight and steady course sure beats the roller coaster rides of the bushwhacking years of economic instability. That resulted in the finical catastrophe of 2008.
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<quoted text> Here's some light reading courtesy of Forbes. http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcprosser/2013/... Are Municipal Bonds Currently A Good Investment?
The short answer is probably not. Certificates of deposit (CDs) are safer and have a major yield advantage, even after factoring in the tax benefits of municipal bonds.
There are two main reasons that investors like to buy municipal bonds: The income they produce is generally not taxable, and they are perceived to be super-safe investments. Let’s explore these reasons more closely to see if they are valid.
Oh almost forgot. Investing in CD’s is a secured investment. Presently with low returns. Through the years of 2000 to 2008 your returns would have been greater with just simply investing in the money market at 2% return. Rule of thumb for markets. Republicans in office, play the Bull market. Democrats in office, play the Bull markets. And now back on the ranch we can see the chasm widening once again.
From the republican’s horses mouth. Out with The Tea…
A wedge has been further pounded down, increasing the chasm in republican party. Senator Rand Paul {R} of Kentucky, who is also going to run for the presidenticy in 2016, filibustered his opposition to using drones to eradicate terrorist suspects. Conservative republicans disagree.
Gun reforms on back ground checks is opposed by the Tea Party as the traditionalist republican disagree. John McCain {R traditionalist} counters.“Isn’t it a little bizarre that we are saying’ basically, on this side of the republican aisle, is that we do not trust our colleagues on the other side of the capitol, who are in the minority republican.
LOL republicans are once again filling their primaries for 2016 with a mixture of loony toons. Rand Paul and Marco Rubio to lead the parade. Fox will entertain us with his merry band playing a’ la propaganda for the week.
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Texan is correct: Blah, blah, blah. BTW, Texas has plenty of interest, just doesn't need to sell bonds to raise cash. The state's economy is doing fine it seems. Lord, where have you been? Corps. are leaving other states and moving there in droves. "

April 9, 2013 6:38am PST

Magpul left Colorado over new gun control laws and Beretta followed suit when Maryland went down the same anti-2nd Amendment path.

Now Colt Competition, which makes AR-15 style rifles, is leaving Connecticut. It’s heading to Texas, which is one of America’s most business-friendly and gun-friendly states."
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That is exactly what you get when dealing with a long winded blow hard like Barney. He thinks he can over power you with a page or two of his rants. So it's just blah blah blah, whatever Barney. Like I said I don't even read his crap any more.
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Almost forgot, move forward and forget the TeaParty blah, blah, blah. It's old, tired and has outlived the liberal usage. Can you come up with more up to date data? 2000, 2008 really isn't a great model to use. Think of it this way, if your making a pitch to someone for a job, or to recruit their business, are you going to use information that is how old? No, I would think you would try to use the most current.
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Why is anyone proud to have this idiot represent Texas? He was born with money, has no idea what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck. It's time for a governor with republican ideals, yet is still in touch with the day to day life of your average Texan. He has no idea how the cost of diapers, formula, health insurance and gasoline will set back working people! Not a bad guy, just ignorant of the real world works
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Texan is correct: Blah, blah, blah. BTW, Texas has plenty of interest, just doesn't need to sell bonds to raise cash. The state's economy is doing fine it seems. Lord, where have you been? Corps. are leaving other states and moving there in droves. "
April 9, 2013 6:38am PST
Magpul left Colorado over new gun control laws and Beretta followed suit when Maryland went down the same anti-2nd Amendment path.
Now Colt Competition, which makes AR-15 style rifles, is leaving Connecticut. It’s heading to Texas, which is one of America’s most business-friendly and gun-friendly states."
Did you already forget the $6 billion that Ricky borrowed from Obama for his bailout of the state debt in 2011? Yup get those guns down there. We have some in N.H. and they do not employ all that many. As to the validity of your claims, you loss your creditability when you commented on the 10’s of Thousands Daily moving to Texas from California. Pretty much anything else you claim is rendered moot.
You asked for something recent. Gave you that with Bernanke’s Surprise. Hot off the wires where in as all I get from you is one comment out of dozens with any substance worth elaborating on. AND what about 2000 and 2008? Just stating an example where even secured CD’s failed to keep up to the money market bonds. Well since you are SOOO interested in that era, of 2000 to 2008, let me remind you of the PERFECT STORM. Keep your weather out for it. Wait for it, wait for it…..
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Almost forgot, move forward and forget the TeaParty blah, blah, blah. It's old, tired and has outlived the liberal usage. Can you come up with more up to date data? 2000, 2008 really isn't a great model to use. Think of it this way, if your making a pitch to someone for a job, or to recruit their business, are you going to use information that is how old? No, I would think you would try to use the most current.

…………..“Perfect Storm”
The storm arrived in February 2008.
Fannie Mae reports a $ 3.55 billion loss for the fourth quarter of 2007.
Collapsing in March 2008 Bear Sterns accepts buy out by J.P. Morgan Chase. Feds put up $30 billion loan for the purchase.
Carlyle Group defaults on a $16.6 billion debt.
Feds free up $200 billion to support Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
April; International Monetary Fund projects a $945 billion loss from the finical crises. G-7 finance minister agrees to institute a new finical regulations.
June; Repossession of home mortgages doubles and accelerating. Hundreds, including 2 Bear Sterns managers are charged with fraud in the subprime mortgage market.
July; Oil hits all time high of $145 per barrel. Gas at $4 a gallon.
Mortgage lender IndyMac collapses. Freddie Mac and Fannie May spiraling down. Bush announces not to worry, have faith.. Feds guarantee the debts of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
U.S. Secretary of The Treasury Hank Paulson quote “ The global economy is more sound; it is as strong as I’ve seen it in my business career”
September; U.S. Government seizes control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
On the 17th second oldest investment bank, Lehman Brothers declares bankruptcy. Merrill Lynch is bought out by Bank Of America. Feds bail out AIG Insurance for $85billion
White House through Hank Paulson request $700 billion {no strings attached} bailout plan, for banks and free up some credit.
Last two standing investment banks, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs are forced to convert to holding companies. This allows them to have direct access to Feds discount window for loans.
September 26; Feds seizes Washington Mutual in America’s largest ever U.S. Bank failure.
September 29; Republican led House rejects presidents Bush’s request of $700 billion bailout.
Wachovia Bank collapsing; negotiations with Citigroup for take over.
Bailout clears the House of Representatives and Bush immediately signs into law.
October 6 to the 10th; Dow drops a record 2,031 points. Weekly loss of 19.67%!
November 4,2008 Obama elected as the economy shrinks by 9% to become the Great Recession. Only the Great Depression was greater in all of U.S. History.
Consider when Bush entered the White House with a budget surplus, a prosperous economy, and a strong middle class. Eight years later leaves the economy, stock markets and the budget, in utter chaos !
Presidential ranking puts Bush slightly ahead of Herbert Hoover. Which is the lowest end of the ranking system.
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Almost forgot, move forward and forget the TeaParty blah, blah, blah. It's old, tired and has outlived the liberal usage. Can you come up with more up to date data? 2000, 2008 really isn't a great model to use. Think of it this way, if your making a pitch to someone for a job, or to recruit their business, are you going to use information that is how old? No, I would think you would try to use the most current.
Here is some really old news, from June 13, 2013. Ah those were the days.. Something else you fail to grasp about these historical events is they educate the ones who learn from history. You have a problem with History 101 as well? That speaks volumes about you..
Chasm widens sucking in the right wing nuts and Teabaggers alike. Traditionalist conservatives are spitting out the poisonous Tea.
Democrats and republican moderates have joined forces. Sweeping aside the Tea Party and the right wing nuts. In all places, Arizona! A previous bestial of the Tea Party.
Between them both they actually came to a budget with bipartisan support. On June 13, 2013 Governor Jan Brewer {R} Led the way that will add over 300,000 of their uninsured citizens to the roles of the insured. Embracing the Obamacare Health Care Plan.
Governor Jan Brewer gathered up her allies and repulsed themselves from the intoxicated Teabaggers and their minions. Carrying it so far as not to answerer any of the Tea and right wing nuts questions and shooting down any of their proposals.
Obamacare exposed the rift that is growing into a chasm where the Tea and the right wing nuts are being pushed into.
Their Senate President Andy Biggs {R} who was a staunch opponent to the Obamacare was swept aside. All these right wing nuts and the Teabaggers, had to say , was similar to what we find on these threads. Right wing nuts and Teabaggers, Constant redundant dysfunctional rhetoric and derogatory remarks. No substance or valid argument. Sputtering and babbling.. Now we know where these urchins get their cue’s from. Rushing Foxes with their Pied Piper’s melodies of “A La Propaganda.”
The chasm widens..
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"We" in NH, I NEVER commented on "10's of thousands". Last, your lack of current information rendered your posts "moot" a long time ago, it's just fun to get you started. I'm not interested in "that era", go back and look at your own writings. You have ME confused with another poster pal. I have talked to a couple gun manufacturers in the northeast and the business environment there is less than friendly. I know of one "known" one trying to vacate. I'm on the phone daily with this industry.
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Bernard Forand wrote:
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…………..“Perfect Storm”
The storm arrived in February 2008.
Fannie Mae reports a $ 3.55 billion loss for the fourth quarter of 2007.
Collapsing in March 2008 Bear Sterns accepts buy out by J.P. Morgan Chase. Feds put up $30 billion loan for the purchase.
Carlyle Group defaults on a $16.6 billion debt.
Feds free up $200 billion to support Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
April; International Monetary Fund projects a $945 billion loss from the finical crises. G-7 finance minister agrees to institute a new finical regulations.
June; Repossession of home mortgages doubles and accelerating. Hundreds, including 2 Bear Sterns managers are charged with fraud in the subprime mortgage market.
July; Oil hits all time high of $145 per barrel. Gas at $4 a gallon.
Mortgage lender IndyMac collapses. Freddie Mac and Fannie May spiraling down. Bush announces not to worry, have faith.. Feds guarantee the debts of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
U.S. Secretary of The Treasury Hank Paulson quote “ The global economy is more sound; it is as strong as I’ve seen it in my business career”
September; U.S. Government seizes control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
On the 17th second oldest investment bank, Lehman Brothers declares bankruptcy. Merrill Lynch is bought out by Bank Of America. Feds bail out AIG Insurance for $85billion
White House through Hank Paulson request $700 billion {no strings attached} bailout plan, for banks and free up some credit.
Last two standing investment banks, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs are forced to convert to holding companies. This allows them to have direct access to Feds discount window for loans.
September 26; Feds seizes Washington Mutual in America’s largest ever U.S. Bank failure.
September 29; Republican led House rejects presidents Bush’s request of $700 billion bailout.
Wachovia Bank collapsing; negotiations with Citigroup for take over.
Bailout clears the House of Representatives and Bush immediately signs into law.
October 6 to the 10th; Dow drops a record 2,031 points. Weekly loss of 19.67%!
November 4,2008 Obama elected as the economy shrinks by 9% to become the Great Recession. Only the Great Depression was greater in all of U.S. History.
Consider when Bush entered the White House with a budget surplus, a prosperous economy, and a strong middle class. Eight years later leaves the economy, stock markets and the budget, in utter chaos !
Presidential ranking puts Bush slightly ahead of Herbert Hoover. Which is the lowest end of the ranking system.
Can you say "Barney Frank"?

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Hey Bernard.562,000 people moved out of California in 2011.I believe that is tens of thousands.468,000 moved there. Subtract one from the other. You get 194,000. That number also is tens of thousands.
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Friday, May 21, 2010
32 States Have Borrowed from the Federal Government to Make Unemployment Payments; California Has Borrowed $7 Billion
EconomicPolicyJournal.com has learned that 32 states have run out funds to make unemployment benefit payments and that the federal government has been supplying these states with funds so that they can make their payments to the unemployed. In some cases, states have borrowed billions. As of May 20, the total balance outstanding by 32 states (and the Virgin Islands) is $37.8 billion.

The state of California has borrowed $6.9 billion. Michigan has borrowed $3.9 billion, Illinois $2.2 billion.

Below is the full list of the 32 states (and the Virgin Islands) that have borrowed from the federal government to make unemployment payments, and the amounts that remain borrowed as of May 20 .(Numbers in red are billions)

Alabama $ 283 million
Arkansas 330 million
California 6.9 billion
Colorado 253 million
Connecticut 498 million
Delaware 12 million
Florida 1.6 billion
Georgia 416 million
Idaho 202 million
Illinois 2.2 billion
Indiana 1.7 billion
Kansas 88 million
Kentucky 795 million
Maryland 133 million
Mass. 387 million
Michigan 3.9 billion
Minnesota 477 million
Missouri 722 million
Nevada 397 million
New Jersey 1.7 billion
New York 3.2 billion
N.C. 2.1 billion
Ohio 2.3 billion
Penn. 3.0 billion
R.I. 225 million
S.C. 886 million
S.D. 24 million
Tennessee 21 million
Texas 1.0 billion
Vermont 33 million
Virginia 346 million
Virgin Islands 13 million
Wisconsin 1.4 billion
Total $37.8 billion
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Jun 25, 2013
 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/us/politics...
Great article here's a tidbit for ya: "Some states are planning to follow the lead of Texas, and borrow the money to repay the federal government. Others are asking for more time." Keep up will ya?

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