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Old John T

Denver, CO

#105 Oct 11, 2013
Chris... According to FORBES, here are the anual avg of Exec orders... Ford/84, Eisenhower /60, Nixon/58, Reagan/48, GHWB/41, PBO/37.. Actually the ACA says that if a lge co offers health ins, the bill cam be ignored. The US govt employes millions. It was exempt. Rep Chuck Grassley had something 2 do about congress not being exempt. Cant remember now what it was.I will get back 2 u in a bit on that. And as far as laws being challenged, there are many...
Old John T

Denver, CO

#106 Oct 11, 2013
There was Roe v Wadr, Brown vs Dept of Education. and others too numerous to mention. As far as your feeling that our polititions are no longer representing us, I agree. It has gone from For, By, and of the people, to they know whats best for us. They should get not get paid. The idea was that they were there to SERVE. No benifits, health ins, pensions, and no lobbiest jobs 4 at least 10 yrs after leavi.g office. Not gonna happen though.
Old John T

Houston, TX

#107 Oct 11, 2013
GoodGrief wrote:
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John, she was on T.V. with this coming out of her mouth. Now if my ears don't deceive me...
Obama said Susan Rice was telling us this story because that was the best information they had at the time. Nope
At the time, that is what they thought they knew. Therewas little info coming out of there and it was their best guess. They were wrong. Dobt think that u should fault someone for....
Old John T

Houston, TX

#108 Oct 11, 2013
Good Grief... going with the best knowledge available at the time. 24hr.news cycle can be blamed for this. Out of curiosity, were u this outraged when over 200 soldiers were killed in the barracks during Reagans time? Or how about the bombing of the Cole? Or the 9\11 tradgety? Bush even let Bin Ladens family fly out of the country when no planes were flying. Do u think that he woulda let ur family do that if u were involved
Old John T

Houston, TX

#109 Oct 11, 2013
And like we discussed before, if there was a coverup there, u gotta know that Darrel Issa and his committee investigating it would have had the articles of impeachment drawn up that day. After all the false charges, witnesses, and testimony, theissue just sorta died. Why would a GOP House of Represenitives let something like that die? Did u ever fact.check what Hillary actually said? After reading it, do u see what I mean about taking it out of context?
Old John T

Houston, TX

#110 Oct 11, 2013
Chris wrote:
John can i ask you this (if you don't mind) What was the purpose, and what exactly did we accomplish with the vietnam war?
hey Chris, wasnt ignoring u, just got hungry and went out and got a burger. Viet Nam.....They said wewere there 2 stop communism. I think we were there 2 protect Standard Oiis interests. The war was wrong on so many levels. Iknow cause I was there. We were ordered to fight in certain...
Old John T

Houston, TX

#111 Oct 11, 2013
Situations. Kinda like fighting with 1 hand tied behimd ur back. Wading thru rice paddies that are knee deep or higher, fertilized with human waste. Not knowing who the enemy wascause they all looked alike.Friends when they faced u,and enemies behind ur back. I was lucky because my tour was over before the tet offensive. Thats when it really got bad over there. Everything was wrong. Our govt spraying agent orange,the commanders saying that....
Old John T

Houston, TX

#112 Oct 11, 2013
Chris... that we had to burn villages down in order save them. The troops who sometimes just lost it and killed anybody, the kids wired with bombs asking 2 be picked up. That was the bad part. The good part is that it wasnt constant fighting. Might go a week or 2 with nothing. Then all hell broke loose. Becoming a true band of brothers with your platoon, the pot was excellanr and grew wild in manyplaces. I was a medic and saw the damage done...
Old John T

Houston, TX

#113 Oct 11, 2013
And was mostly in Cameron Bay, Sorry, I got carried away. War is hell. Now maybe u can see why I think we should try everything before we put boots on tje ground. Thatall was when 18 yr old kids got drafted. The poor kids. Rich kids all got 2,3, or 4 deferments. They didnt have to go.That may be a reason why I didnt like Romney. He got defered a couple of times, then was sent to France by the Mormon church on a mission. Shoulda went to Nam.
GoodGrief

San Bernardino, CA

#114 Oct 11, 2013
Old John T wrote:
Good Grief... going with the best knowledge available at the time. 24hr.news cycle can be blamed for this. Out of curiosity, were u this outraged when over 200 soldiers were killed in the barracks during Reagans time? Or how about the bombing of the Cole? Or the 9\11 tradgety? Bush even let Bin Ladens family fly out of the country when no planes were flying. Do u think that he woulda let ur family do that if u were involved


B.S. 24 hours--it was more like 3 days.
What do you think? I'm not for any public servant not telling us the truth--and covering it up. Which of the above incidents are you saying were cover ups? GW was a disaster-you'll get no argument from me on that one.
Old John T

Houston, TX

#115 Oct 11, 2013
Chris wrote:
And what's your opinion on the us going to war in other countries, to promote democracy, for the people? for a better life?,For their oil or could it be the UN preping un-co-operating countries for a switch to one world government.It just seems the reasoning given, just don't hold water.
Well Chris, 1st of all, we have been working on democracy for over 25 yrs, and we both agree that we still have problems with it. The ...
Old John T

Houston, TX

#116 Oct 11, 2013
Middle Eastern nations have known nothing more than dictatorships, tribal rules, and all out anarchy. Democracy will not happen overnight like people think it should happen. Our founders were brilliant men, with no outside interests (except the Britts) meddling in our affairs. If we are there for democracy, I dont think that it will happen unless the people in that country want it. If we are there 4 the people Idont think that wll happen. These people only know their way of life. Cant miss what u never
Old John T

Houston, TX

#117 Oct 11, 2013
Had. They know only 1 way, and theythink they want democracy, but refuse 2 work 4 it. Look at Egypt. They elected Morisie. and he was taken from office because the majority ofpeople wanted everything right then. I believe that we are there forthe oil. There are civil wars elsewhere, and if it isnt in the oil rich areas, we dont care. There are other cruel dictatators, but we leave them alone. They say we are there becauseof terrorists. Maybe if we werent ...
Old John T

Houston, TX

#118 Oct 11, 2013
In their country, bombing them, and trying to displace their form of govt, there would be less terrorism. How would we feel if we had foriegners on our land? Overthrowing our govt?Bombing our homes. Sorry that it ran a bit long Chriz. I seldom talk about actual wars,because I get too involved. I should just stick to US history, US govt, and Politucal Science. Those things I know about. The other things I only have feelings.
Old John T

Houston, TX

#119 Oct 11, 2013
GoodGrief wrote:
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B.S. 24 hours--it was more like 3 days.
What do you think? I'm not for any public servant not telling us the truth--and covering it up. Which of the above incidents are you saying were cover ups? GW was a disaster-you'll get no argument from me on that one.
Hey Good Grief! How ya doing 2nite? Do u really think that 3 days isenough time to get all the evidence? A.d as far as lieing,...
Old John T

Houston, TX

#120 Oct 11, 2013
Good Grief.. Can u give me 1 public servant that has not lied to us? They all do. None of them tell the truth all of the time. Tbats what we expect, so thats what happens. Do Iike it, no. So u just have to pick the person who u think lies the least. The Bengazi coverup was not covered up. Darrel Issa and his committee have looked under every rock and talked to every person he coud find. There is nothi.g more that he wants than 2 find a wrong doung, coverup,..
Old John T

Houston, TX

#121 Oct 11, 2013
Or anything he could find to hurt PBO and Hillary. Issa is a showboat and if there was a coverup he would have expised it. A coverup that did happen, is from Saint Reagan. Congress refused to arm the Contrasin Nicueraga. So Reagan sold arms to Iran secretly and thensupported the Contras with that money. When he got caught he saud he didnt remember, and threw Oli North under the bus. Another coverup was when Cheney ..
Old John T

Houston, TX

#122 Oct 11, 2013
Valerie Flame out as an undercover agent.then he and Bush denied it They got caught and threw Scooter Libby under the bus. 4 people died in Bengazi. How many people died because if the illegal arms to Iran? How many lives were put in danger whdn Flame was ohted? And yet u dwell on Bengazi even though there was no coverup. I like u Good Grief. I sde that u feel passionatley about this. I only wish that there were millions more...
Old John T

Houston, TX

#123 Oct 11, 2013
Like u with ur commitment that would ask questions about all of our problems. Did u happen to fact check what Hillary actually said? Did someone lie about WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? Was there a 2nd part that wasnt mentioned? You see they all lie. We all lie. It is just a human trait. You will neverget the whole truth all the time.
Old John T

Houston, TX

#124 Oct 11, 2013
Chris.. I was botheredabout PBOs executive order count. I trust Factcheck more than Forbes. That site gave me a total of 139 E,O,s. That would be rigjt in line with the other site. 1st article on the site was adout Obamas 900 E.O.s. But that was the statement that was being questioned. That statement was deemed False. What site did u find the info that PBO had the most Exec Orders?

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