California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

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Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15228 Feb 18, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>You can't have a double standard set of rules. If a company is a zero tolerance workplace,then the office workers,production,warehouse,a nd drivers go by the same rules........ZERO.
1. don't work for that company 2. work for that company and obey them.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#15229 Feb 18, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>1. don't work for that company 2. work for that company and obey them.
That's exactly the problem. People for legalization want to be able to use anytime/anywhere and not have to follow any workplace rules because they smoked "legally". They want to overlook the fact that they still show positive in their system.
Wooden

Covina, CA

#15230 Feb 18, 2013
The panel is still out so why are you posting here still?

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#15232 Feb 18, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, I think you are confused, I really didn't want to talk about people on drugs at work. This is about making pot legal. Some things are legal but not legal as in booze, you can't drive and be drunk or work being drunk. If pot is legal, you would have a choice to use it or not use it just like booze or like eating the poisons from the grocery stores. We have a choice to eat the crap at the store, as you can see from any workplace, people are fat from it, which costs the country and companies more money from being sick, from major healthcare costs.
you are brain dead.
MalbarCACA

Brisbane, Australia

#15233 Feb 18, 2013
Tim Truhart wrote:
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Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15234 Feb 18, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
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you are brain dead.
What's a matter sissy? Can't debate. What do you want? Every cop we have going around smelling for a weed that does little harm and locking them in a work camp? Are you North Korean?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15235 Feb 18, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>That's exactly the problem. People for legalization want to be able to use anytime/anywhere and not have to follow any workplace rules because they smoked "legally". They want to overlook the fact that they still show positive in their system.
Liar, people want it legal like booze and cigarettes, which are much more dangerous. How many died last year from pot? Now compare that with booze. If you don't like your work, quit. Stop whining about being tested, are you an ex con or something?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15236 Feb 18, 2013
Tim Truhart wrote:
Riccardo's job, which is cleaning out septic tanks, can be done even when he is loaded (all the time). The worst thing that can happen to him already has: He gets sucked up the hose into the tank.
What's a matter sissy boy? Can't debate, a little weak in the mind on the subject. Get some help.

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#15238 Feb 19, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Liar, people want it legal like booze and cigarettes, which are much more dangerous. How many died last year from pot? Now compare that with booze. If you don't like your work, quit. Stop whining about being tested, are you an ex con or something?
guy, only illicit drug users want marijuana legalized. you drug addicts rant about your rights all the time. but you ignore the rights of those who do not want to be exposed to your marijuana smoke.

one of yours already suggested the compromise of aerosol dispensers. but no, that wasn't good enough for you. you want to have the right to smoke that stuff in our faces.

like with tobacco smoke, we non-smokers took that away from you in all the work places and many other places too.

now, you try to get permission to smoke marijuana in our faces in an effort to bypass the ban on tobacco smoking.

it won't happen.
MalbarCACA

Brisbane, Australia

#15239 Feb 19, 2013
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<quoted text>What's a matter sissy boy? Can't debate, a little weak in the mind on the subject. Get some help.
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ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#15240 Feb 19, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Liar, people want it legal like booze and cigarettes, which are much more dangerous. How many died last year from pot? Now compare that with booze. If you don't like your work, quit. Stop whining about being tested, are you an ex con or something?
I'm not whining about testing. That's a figment of your immagination. The point I'm making is that even if it is legalized for possession and use,people still won't be able to have it in their system in the workplaces that do test .That's for the safety and wellbeing of the other employees and to keep required workman's comp rates down.

Since: Nov 12

Wilton, CA

#15241 Feb 19, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
guy, only illicit drug users want marijuana legalized. you drug addicts rant about your rights all the time. but you ignore the rights of those who do not want to be exposed to your marijuana smoke.
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Read slower: I don't use pot, I don't drink booze. I am not a drug addict. I agree people smoking it will have to follow the same rules as a person smoking a legal cigarette. I too don't like the smoke. But if a cigarette is legal, why is pot not?

Since: Nov 12

Wilton, CA

#15242 Feb 19, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not whining about testing. That's a figment of your immagination. The point I'm making is that even if it is legalized for possession and use,people still won't be able to have it in their system in the workplaces that do test .That's for the safety and wellbeing of the other employees and to keep required workman's comp rates down.
Booze is legal and people can't have it in their system in the workplace. So what is the difference? If pot is legal, a person won't be forced to use it, he will have a choice if it depends on his job that likes to waste money drug testing, then he should make a choice to not use it. I hope they test for cigarettes at your workplace, they cause heart attacks, could happen while driving that forklift. And I hope they don't allow diet soda at your workplace, it causes cancer....
Big D

Modesto, CA

#15243 Feb 19, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Read slower: I don't use pot, I don't drink booze. I am not a drug addict. I agree people smoking it will have to follow the same rules as a person smoking a legal cigarette. I too don't like the smoke. But if a cigarette is legal, why is pot not?
I actually agree, although my argument is that if booze is legal, what is the difference. I have yet to hear a single argument that could not be applied to booze.

I would get fired ( and rightly so ) if I showed up to work with alcohol in my blood, and that is legal.

I have no real interest in pot myself, and I drink, but not all that much ( a 6 pack of beer in my fridge might last a month )
SeaQuesters

Covina, CA

#15244 Feb 19, 2013
Just who are the SeaQuesters?

They are a small group of ultra-nutty GOP, Republican and tea party loonies too!

Since: Nov 12

Wilton, CA

#15245 Feb 19, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I actually agree, although my argument is that if booze is legal, what is the difference. I have yet to hear a single argument that could not be applied to booze.
I would get fired ( and rightly so ) if I showed up to work with alcohol in my blood, and that is legal.
I have no real interest in pot myself, and I drink, but not all that much ( a 6 pack of beer in my fridge might last a month )
I agree. I still think the real reason pot is not legal is because the Government thinks it won't bring in the money like booze and legal smokes. I don't buy for a minute that the US or any Government cares about us so much that they don't want anyone smoking it...If they cared about our health, why do they allow all the crap they sell at the stores? Diet soda kills more people then pot.

Since: Sep 07

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#15246 Feb 19, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Read slower: I don't use pot, I don't drink booze. I am not a drug addict. I agree people smoking it will have to follow the same rules as a person smoking a legal cigarette. I too don't like the smoke. But if a cigarette is legal, why is pot not?
if you know all these things are harmful to you, and you have 2 that you can legally use... what's the logic of legalizing YET ANOTHER harmful thing?

using YOUR logic... why don't we just approve all illicit drugs? I bet you think that would make sense. right?

another thing... there are different levels of harm that we are dealing with here. alcohol obviously when abused is harmful. so is smoking. causes cancer.

marijuana goes beyond what alcohol and tobacco does... it can make you stupid. and it can do to this to you the minute the vapors from someone who is an user engulfs you.

hence, marijuana is more dangerous.

it's like the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony.

one only needs to see all the crazy decisions being pushed currently on capitol hill to realize the harm illicit drugs cause to people.

universal healthcare when you know we cannot afford it?
letting rangel off scott free for fraud when wesley snipes gets 3 years?
eric holder free even after fast and furious.
benghazi..

brain dead people making brain dead decisions.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#15247 Feb 19, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I agree. I still think the real reason pot is not legal is because the Government thinks it won't bring in the money like booze and legal smokes. I don't buy for a minute that the US or any Government cares about us so much that they don't want anyone smoking it...If they cared about our health, why do they allow all the crap they sell at the stores? Diet soda kills more people then pot.
I think the concern is over the tremendous police and court costs and crime that follow along with a popular illegal substance. The making of tax money is a factor, but a pretty small one.

It is funny, one of the groups that is opposed to it becoming legal, are the current growers of it.( chuckle )

Since: Nov 12

Wilton, CA

#15248 Feb 19, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I think the concern is over the tremendous police and court costs and crime that follow along with a popular illegal substance. The making of tax money is a factor, but a pretty small one.
It is funny, one of the groups that is opposed to it becoming legal, are the current growers of it.( chuckle )
You're right, I got my card and tried it for awhile to see if it helps for some pain, but anyways had conversations with the pot shop workers and yes they did express that it should not be legal.

Since: Nov 12

Wilton, CA

#15249 Feb 19, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
if you know all these things are harmful to you, and you have 2 that you can legally use... what's the logic of legalizing YET ANOTHER harmful thing?
Because unless we live in a North Korea society, we should be free to use pot. And for some people it helps them just like they say it lowers your blood pressure to have a little drink of booze once in a while. People should have the choice to decide what they need, not what the US Government has decided for you. Like I said, I tried pot for my condition, didn't like using it, it's not for me, but the country is not about me. I know it helps some folks, it's a lot less harmful then a lot of the prescribed meds. There are some products like diet soda that have no benefit what so ever. Some of you people make it out to be like the old 50's movies where the pot head goes crazy. And I'm tired of spending money on copters flying around killing the weed and putting people in prison. I'm more concerned about the gang bangers and making pot legal will take away one of their drugs they sell. I still think pot will be cheaper on the streets as compared to making whores legal in Nevada, but most people would rather be safe and pay more.

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