Should Hemet area churches support Valley Restart?

Created by Grandma on Jul 28, 2010

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yep

Calabasas, CA

#1 Aug 1, 2010
why not jesus did say to take care of the poor and homeless.
nope

Nuevo, CA

#2 Aug 3, 2010
If Jesus said that, then why don't churches shelter the homeless? Why don't the homeless live in these big, empty churches?
Churches are not taking care of the poor and homeless.
Perhaps, they hold a canned food drive or supply a soup kitchen but, they pass the burden of homelessness off on government and entities such as Valley Restart.
If every church really housed, fed and ministered to just one homeless person it would compensate for their tax exempt, non-profit status. Revenue and tax dollars would not be wasted on Valley Restart.
If you had a clue

Moreno Valley, CA

#4 Aug 4, 2010
You have no right to judge Valley Restart!
location location

Nuevo, CA

#6 Aug 5, 2010
If you had a clue wrote:
You have no right to judge Valley Restart!
Valley Restart contributed significantly to the changing face of the San Jacinto Valley. Accepting and transferring inner city criminals and parolees into the community has caused the decline of the quality of life in the area. Valley Restart operates with grants that mandates inclusion of these individuals. This demographic transformation has taken nearly 3 decades - from agriculture and retiree destination to low income and parolee rehab. Valley Restart receives strenuous support from local churches. It's also the churches that have contributed to the infestation of gangs, criminals and parolees - with the help of Valley Restart.
location location

Nuevo, CA

#8 Aug 7, 2010
Importing more parolees to Hemet is a waste of taxpayer's dollars
If it were you

Moreno Valley, CA

#9 Aug 9, 2010
How would you feel if you were in a homeless situation perhaps you were and got asked to leave because you didn't want to follow their rules. Valley Restart is a good safe place and has helped many women men and children. Yes in the past Valley Restart has had a rocky past however in the past 5 years it has turned around so stop bitching about it and come take a tour and let us change your point of view. Maybe just maybe if the community and the City of Hemet would step up to the plate and take accountablity of the problem at hand Valley Restart wouldn't have to struggle to survive and shame on you how do you sleep at night knowing that there are children sleeping on the streets and in cars open your eyes and your heats or just shut up about it and leave VRS out of it.
If it were you

Moreno Valley, CA

#10 Aug 9, 2010
location location wrote:
Importing more parolees to Hemet is a waste of taxpayer's dollars
You don't even know what you are talking about VRS doesn't accept parolees or sex offenders, or anyone with a violent record man is this community clueless or what lots of useless and wrong information!!! man people get the facts straight before you make a fool out of yourselves.
Your Clueless

Moreno Valley, CA

#11 Aug 9, 2010
location location wrote:
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Valley Restart contributed significantly to the changing face of the San Jacinto Valley. Accepting and transferring inner city criminals and parolees into the community has caused the decline of the quality of life in the area. Valley Restart operates with grants that mandates inclusion of these individuals. This demographic transformation has taken nearly 3 decades - from agriculture and retiree destination to low income and parolee rehab. Valley Restart receives strenuous support from local churches. It's also the churches that have contributed to the infestation of gangs, criminals and parolees - with the help of Valley Restart.
It's so sad you don't even know what you are talking about and you don't know Valley Restart. None of what you say and have said is true. Come and see for yurself and you will be surprised that there are normal people with children living at VRS who work and take care of their family. Not verone who comes to VRS has a drug problem, one of these days it could be you or a family member. I bet you are a city councel member how much money did you get to say all this crap. Shame on you!!!
SEE SCUM

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Aug 9, 2010
we all see the scum that hang around there, jay walking to am-pm, panhandling at the liquor store. we see it all....

the low level mothers who drag around their multiple kids from different fathers, we all see it. your words are not fooling the boots on the ground that live/work here. GET IT? WE WORK..

the retard popultation are drifters, grifters cons and losers and you're all making bank on grants.

the hell with this teary eyed garbage about the kids sleeping in cars. that is life. YOUR PAYCHECK DEPENDS ON RETART STAYING OPEN.
Rob

Hemet, CA

#15 Aug 9, 2010
Just saying wrote:
The major problem is that other communities fail to care for their own homeless and refer them to Hemet. Other communities also tell their parolees that VRS will shelter them.
That is the truth. Riverside county has a number of times proposed Hemet as the location for the main homeless shelter. As well as the main location for an animial shelter.

That's the problem. When they fail to meet the criteria for the VRS do you think they go back? To where, their homeless? They fill OUR streets, OUR parks, OUR cheap motels.

There's no backdoor to hemet. You come thru Newport, 74, or Ramona expressway. How does it make you feel to pass the ghetto on your way home?

I'm sorry for the ligiament one's that are really down on their luck and use VRS for it's intended purpose "TO RESTART". But, the one's that have no intention of trying to better themselves, the one's that are moving from shelter to shelter to shelter to shelter the one's that are down on their luck due to drinking, drugs, streetlife way outnumber. And, that's the one's we see. The one's that were sent here, or found out by word of mouth and now have noplace to go. This isn't LA or SD. It doesn't take very much trash to make Hemet look like a dump.
Rob

Hemet, CA

#16 Aug 9, 2010
Let me ask someone this.......How many people can VRS handle under their roof at the moment? This includes men, women, and children.
Yugo

Nuevo, CA

#17 Aug 9, 2010
Your Clueless wrote:
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It's so sad you don't even know what you are talking about and you don't know Valley Restart. None of what you say and have said is true. Come and see for yurself and you will be surprised that there are normal people with children living at VRS who work and take care of their family. Not verone who comes to VRS has a drug problem, one of these days it could be you or a family member. I bet you are a city councel member how much money did you get to say all this crap. Shame on you!!!
You cannot deny that Valley Restart accepts parolees. That was the criteria for grant acceptance and the funding. Riverside County has designated Hemet as the "destination" for parolees. The area offers a bountiful smorgasbord of social services, churches, rehab and halfway houses. Hemet is the "Sanctuary City" for Riverside County homeless and parolees.
no jobs

Nuevo, CA

#18 Aug 9, 2010
Your Clueless wrote:
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It's so sad you don't even know what you are talking about and you don't know Valley Restart. None of what you say and have said is true. Come and see for yurself and you will be surprised that there are normal people with children living at VRS who work and take care of their family. Not verone who comes to VRS has a drug problem, one of these days it could be you or a family member. I bet you are a city councel member how much money did you get to say all this crap. Shame on you!!!
Valley Restart cannot make good on it's mission statement "to RESTART lives." Hemet and the San Jacinto Valley has a 24% unemployment rate. There are no jobs here to jump start these restarts. They should be housed closer to cities that have industry, retail and jobs. Hemet is hopeless.
White Flight

Nuevo, CA

#19 Aug 10, 2010
Just saying wrote:
VRS has helped a number of families in need of shelter due to job loss or unforseen circumstances. As a member of the community (once a skeptic of VRS) I am amazed at what wonderful work these people do. Don't listen to the haters. VRS really helps out those in need. It is a vital part of our community. The major problem is that other communities fail to care for their own homeless and refer them to Hemet. Other communities also tell their parolees that VRS will shelter them. Well, that's not the truth. If you ever fall on hard times, you would want a place like VRS there to help you out!
If you want to see what VRS is really about, stop in and visit!
One is not a "hater" when observing what has become of the San Jacinto Valley. Truth- "other communities also tell their parolees that VRS will shelter them" and Valley Restart DOES! The media has finally shed some light on what has happened to Hemet during recent coverage of horrific crimes that occur here. This criminal activity has been suppressed in the news, until recently.

It has taken 3 decades, but Restart with the help of local churches has shifted demographics in the area. The valley was once agriculture and a retiree/Snowbird destination. It has become Riverside County's "Sanctuary City for Homelessness." Old timers, retirees and residents are fleeing Hemet quicker than you can say, "white flight." One does not need to "stop in and visit"to see what VRS is really about" - just drive down any Hemet street with eyes wide open.
Just saying

Hemet, CA

#20 Aug 10, 2010
You can blame VRS for all the city's issues. The real problem is that this city continues to function as a retirement community in light of the changing demographic. We have failed to change as a city and are paying the price for being naive.

We have missed opportunity after opportunity. Businesses are closing, families are leaving and there are no real solutions being talked about.

Really want to see a shift in things? Let the city council trim more officers from the budget. I don't know about you, but we need more cops than ever before.
Snowbird

Nuevo, CA

#21 Aug 10, 2010
Hemet cannot "change as a city." Nor, can it change horses from a retiree destination to a friendly, family location. It is not set up that way. Moreover, parolees and an "unsavory" element have already taken root.

Historically, the location, infrastructure, and lack of jobs defined the area as an agriculture/retirement destination. Otherwise, why move to a location isolated by lack of freeways and major traffic arteries. Hemet has always been a bedroom community - perfect for retirees, ranchers and farmers, but not for families and working residents. There are not enough jobs here to sustain the glut of young families that were blindsided by the cheap housing. Quality of life does not translate into spending hours on the freeway every day while commuters travel to jobs elsewhere in the cities.

Traditionally, Hemet catered to retirees with mobile home parks, Simpson Center, shuffleboard and amenities for seniors. Changing it's image has driven away the stable economic base that was once established by wealthy retirees. They are leaving by the droves. What remains in their wake is nursing homes, low income apartments, section 8 housing, rehabs, halfway houses, rentals, parolees, gangsters, prostitutes, pedophiles and YES - your plea for more cops. You'll need them.

The reason solutions are not addressed here is because there are none. Greedy developers with the help of Hemet city council created this conflict in usage. The present economic climate sealed the valley's fate for failure and blight.
rain man

Calabasas, CA

#23 Aug 10, 2010
I seriously doubt its 80% but the percentage of drug users is 40% or above I'd guess. The real problem here is the way we treat the mentally ill, years ago when someone was so crazy they couldn't function in life we put them in mental homes but that got too expensive, so we decided to cut them loose and give them social security money cause it's cheaper.. now you drive down the street and see homeless people and think " fu*cking drug addict" but in reality its most likely mental illness that has put that person there on the street...

the mentally ill have the right to a sound mind and if we got to lock them up and force medication
down their throats to give it to them so be it.
Pretty_Poison

Pasadena, CA

#24 Aug 11, 2010
NO one is blaming Valley Restart for all that is wrong with this valley.

I ask what is wrong with this city STILL functioning as a retirement community???

Did people know that at one time, Florida Avenue used to be called "richest street" in America. Because the retired people but all their money here...and had faith in this community.

Now you have brought in all these "Indian Doctors" that do not have time for their patients, you have Valley Restart, who say they are taking care of families, finding them a new start. How can you find them a new start?? There are NO jobs. Help them get welfare is more like it .

Oh that is another one, drive by welfare on any day M-F and you will see them lined up out the door!! You will see them laughing , talking carrying on like it is their "social hour". I would be embaressed to get welfare, and would probably starve to death before, I put myself there.

Some one mentioned cheap motels ... those once cheap motels held retired people coming to Hemet to vacation , have a good time in this valley.

Sorry to say if I had MY choice, I would take the retired folks over the "trash" that has become Hemet today.
Get Over IT

Moreno Valley, CA

#25 Aug 13, 2010
Your just a old resident that could not hang with all of the rules. Get over it. It is not VRS's fault that you have clue how to follow rules. Sorry we had to kick you out, but it was for the better.
Get Over IT

Moreno Valley, CA

#26 Aug 13, 2010
whatever wrote:
<quoted text> 85%? do you do live there? work there ? how do you have that exact figure?(seriously) beside that point,if someone like valley restart can help even 1 out of 10 people/families make a life altering start , why not praise that instead of focusing on the negitive?
Yes I work for VRS and have for the past 6 years, it is a good place and has changed. And yes 86% is the correct number because we keep all the data needed by the city, state, and federal government. These people really do not have the facts straight people should not say what they do not know it makes them look stupid. Like I said before anyone and everyone is more than welcome to come and tour and get the facts straight. Knowledge is power and let me tell you this community needs it WOW really pitiful!!!

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