Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,038

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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DrOzz

Monrovia, CA

#216067 Sep 12, 2013
I donated already for more anti-ASSAD cruise missiles to rain down on his part of the Middle East.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#216068 Sep 12, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>
i KNOW those things were said in the 60s and on into the 70s - i lived in texas and had to put up with idiots griping about how the ruling was wrong and went agains their religious beliefs...saying and whining on and on about "god didn't intend for blacks and whites"....of course,i replaced the word "blacks" for another more offensive word that was typically used in the south back then.
There was always those thought the races shouldn't mix, but that didn't prevent a lot of race mixing in the Civil War era, nor did it prevent all interracial marriages. It's rather ironic to condemn those who advocated for racially segregated marriage to argue for gender segregated marriage.
and you ask if the founding fathers knew what a lesbian was? i'm sure they were aware of homosexuals in their society. they're weren't blind or stupid. unlike many posters up here in topix that want to turn a blind eye to their fellow american citizens that are homosexual and the legal hurdles that have been put in place.
Really....the word "homosexual" wasn't coined until the late 19th century. It's possible they might have been aware of individuals who were, queers, as in odd, or might have been aware of same sex sexual behavior in the abstract historical sense, but I highly doubt from contemporary experience.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#216069 Sep 12, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>
i knew you were of the mind to ignore the similarities - because you think it's ok to discriminate against your homosexual fellow american citizens. and you use your religion and morality as an "excuse".....you paint an ugly picture of christians, buddy. very ugly.
and it's christians like myself that have to corect that view you present to the world.
i guess you rejoice when you read about a teen or young adult that's bullied by their peers for being gay....you laugh when that bullied kid commits suicide. well, it's you and others like you that wear that blood on your hands, for teaching what you do to your young and thinking the way you do. and you think you're "moral". pathetic.
It is one thing to mistreat a disabled person. It is wholly another to desecrate marriage and family. You seek to equate the two. That is blatant and hateful deceit.
DrOzz

Monrovia, CA

#216070 Sep 12, 2013
I donated already more anti-ASSAD cruise missiles for the extermination process needed in the Middle East.
Old Grand Dad

Highland, CA

#216071 Sep 12, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>
i knew you were of the mind to ignore the similarities - because you think it's ok to discriminate against your homosexual fellow american citizens. and you use your religion and morality as an "excuse".....you paint an ugly picture of christians, buddy. very ugly.
and it's christians like myself that have to corect that view you present to the world.
i guess you rejoice when you read about a teen or young adult that's bullied by their peers for being gay....you laugh when that bullied kid commits suicide. well, it's you and others like you that wear that blood on your hands, for teaching what you do to your young and thinking the way you do. and you think you're "moral". pathetic.
You are a dumb shit. I didn't mention anything about Chritianity, so don't make the same mistake all you homosexuals make and that is chage the story suit yourself ok. Grow up

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#216072 Sep 12, 2013
There are risks involved in any kind of sexual intercourse--including vaginal.

Vaginal intercourse carries with it the risk of HPV and a whole host of STDs. It also carries with it the risk of unwanted pregnancy--which either results in the inability to financially care for a child, surrendering the child to adoption/foster care, or abortion.

40,000,000 abortions take place each year.

And yet you guys act as though vaginal intercourse is perfectly safe, while demanding that anal intercourse is totally unsafe.

Here's what I propose... Let adults choose what they wish to do with their own bodies.

We take risks every single day. But we are capable of mitigating those risks by using common sense.

So, leave us alone... Let us do with our bodies what we wish to do.
brad LB

Riverside, CA

#216073 Sep 12, 2013
Why is this discussion still going on? Huh

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#216075 Sep 12, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
There are risks involved in any kind of sexual intercourse--including vaginal.
Vaginal intercourse carries with it the risk of HPV and a whole host of STDs. It also carries with it the risk of unwanted pregnancy--which either results in the inability to financially care for a child, surrendering the child to adoption/foster care, or abortion.
40,000,000 abortions take place each year.
And yet you guys act as though vaginal intercourse is perfectly safe, while demanding that anal intercourse is totally unsafe.
Here's what I propose... Let adults choose what they wish to do with their own bodies.
We take risks every single day. But we are capable of mitigating those risks by using common sense.
So, leave us alone... Let us do with our bodies what we wish to do.
Does that include drug use, and prostitution?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#216076 Sep 12, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
There are risks involved in any kind of sexual intercourse--including vaginal.
Vaginal intercourse carries with it the risk of HPV and a whole host of STDs. It also carries with it the risk of unwanted pregnancy--which either results in the inability to financially care for a child, surrendering the child to adoption/foster care, or abortion.
40,000,000 abortions take place each year.
And yet you guys act as though vaginal intercourse is perfectly safe, while demanding that anal intercourse is totally unsafe.
Here's what I propose... Let adults choose what they wish to do with their own bodies.
We take risks every single day. But we are capable of mitigating those risks by using common sense.
So, leave us alone... Let us do with our bodies what we wish to do.
Here's what I propose;

Abortion is murder, it should once again be outlawed.

Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning. It should once again be outlawed.

Vaginal sex is safe within the bounds of marriage.

We are all suffering and paying a price for the abuses of some. That is wrong.

Most risks can be avoided by using common sense.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#216077 Sep 12, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>
i KNOW those things were said in the 60s and on into the 70s - i lived in texas and had to put up with idiots griping about how the ruling was wrong and went agains their religious beliefs...saying and whining on and on about "god didn't intend for blacks and whites"....of course,i replaced the word "blacks" for another more offensive word that was typically used in the south back then.
and you ask if the founding fathers knew what a lesbian was? i'm sure they were aware of homosexuals in their society. they're weren't blind or stupid. unlike many posters up here in topix that want to turn a blind eye to their fellow american citizens that are homosexual and the legal hurdles that have been put in place.
Cool story.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#216078 Sep 12, 2013
Old Grand Dad wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a dumb shit. I didn't mention anything about Chritianity, so don't make the same mistake all you homosexuals make and that is chage the story suit yourself ok. Grow up
Yeah! He's probably a jarhead.
DrOzz

Monrovia, CA

#216079 Sep 12, 2013
I donated already more anti-ASSAD cruise missiles for the extermination process needed in the Middle East.

Put them to sleep.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#216080 Sep 12, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
Does that include drug use, and prostitution?
No...

Drug use puts other people at risk. If someone high on cocaine decides to act ignorant and hurt someone else while under the influence, then the user has taken the victim's choice away. The victim was not a consensual partner in the injury.

Prostitution is fine by me as long as it is regulated so that it doesn't involve people who are forced into the business against their will or underage people.

The key components in any "risky" situation must be consent by adults that do not put other uninvolved people at risk.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#216081 Sep 12, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
No...
Drug use puts other people at risk. If someone high on cocaine decides to act ignorant and hurt someone else while under the influence, then the user has taken the victim's choice away. The victim was not a consensual partner in the injury.
Prostitution is fine by me as long as it is regulated so that it doesn't involve people who are forced into the business against their will or underage people.
The key components in any "risky" situation must be consent by adults that do not put other uninvolved people at risk.
Even if that were true, it would be a non-issue.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#216082 Sep 12, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's what I propose;
Abortion is murder, it should once again be outlawed.
Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning. It should once again be outlawed.
Vaginal sex is safe within the bounds of marriage.
We are all suffering and paying a price for the abuses of some. That is wrong.
Most risks can be avoided by using common sense.
You are a liar and you know it. HPV can be spread even in the confines of marriage. Most people do not come to a marriage as virgins. They have had intercourse at some point in their lives. If a man who has had multiple partners marries a woman who is a virgin, he can transmit HPV to her, putting her at risk of genital warts, multiple infections, and cancer.

Unless you are prepared to outlaw premarital intercourse, then you are not going to be able to eliminate the risk of vaginal intercourse.

And if you did outlaw premarital intercourse, then anal sex would be even less risky. There would be practically no risk at all.

"In the End" you paint yourself into a corner every time.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#216083 Sep 12, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's what I propose;
Abortion is murder, it should once again be outlawed.
Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning. It should once again be outlawed.
Vaginal sex is safe within the bounds of marriage.
We are all suffering and paying a price for the abuses of some. That is wrong.
Most risks can be avoided by using common sense.
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a liar and you know it. HPV can be spread even in the confines of marriage. Most people do not come to a marriage as virgins. They have had intercourse at some point in their lives. If a man who has had multiple partners marries a woman who is a virgin, he can transmit HPV to her, putting her at risk of genital warts, multiple infections, and cancer.
Unless you are prepared to outlaw premarital intercourse, then you are not going to be able to eliminate the risk of vaginal intercourse.
And if you did outlaw premarital intercourse, then anal sex would be even less risky. There would be practically no risk at all.
"In the End" you paint yourself into a corner every time.
Here is what is funny.

What I just stated is classic morality. Not just Christian morality, but historic morality.

You immediately desecrate that morality by putting it into today's immorality, and then assert it is disqualified.

Moreover, you deny the inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex. Something that has been medically proven time and time again.

In the beginning, and in the end, you are consistently the liar.

Everytime.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#216084 Sep 12, 2013
In the end,

Marriage is a miraculous union of two genders,
a union so profound,
it is described as the union of Mars and Venus.
It reunites humanity to the roots of life,
while at the very same time
hosting the best and natural
birth place of future human life.
It is the blend of masculinity and femininity.
The wisdom of logic and intuition united.
Strength and delicacy perfectly balanced.
Protection and nurture combined as one.
A complimentary merging that multiplies the unbiased blend of humanity's genders.

A ss couple cannot equate to a single one of these distinctions.
Trust in Jesus

San Jose, CA

#216085 Sep 12, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a liar and you know it. HPV can be spread even in the confines of marriage. Most people do not come to a marriage as virgins. They have had intercourse at some point in their lives. If a man who has had multiple partners marries a woman who is a virgin, he can transmit HPV to her, putting her at risk of genital warts, multiple infections, and cancer.
Unless you are prepared to outlaw premarital intercourse, then you are not going to be able to eliminate the risk of vaginal intercourse.
And if you did outlaw premarital intercourse, then anal sex would be even less risky. There would be practically no risk at all.
"In the End" you paint yourself into a corner every time.
80% of all HPV cases are lesbians so your shift is laughable. You paint yourself in a corner and show how foolish you are by suggesting that premarital intercourse is an issue. That is odd since all gay sex is outside of marriages, because same sex unions are not marriages and 99% of all gays have predominately sex outside of marriage.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#216086 Sep 12, 2013
Oscar dela Rich wrote:
<quoted text>Read on, then Jesus says that YOU are of your father, the devil, the things that he doeth you do the same. Clearly, you are not our brothers and sisters.
Rev Allen is not worth the post, most of us ignore him, he spits a lie then hides and spits another one. I'd say ignore him.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#216087 Sep 12, 2013
usa 76 wrote:
<quoted text>
Dude...you don't need scientific evidence to know that an anal canal is designed as an EXIT not an entrance. Have a gay relative who apparently was a regular "wide receiver". His anal canal issues were severely damaged he is unable to defecate naturally and now has to release via a tube inserted in his side. It's sad really. He insists he was born gay and same sex attraction is natural to gay men. He used to laugh at those who insisted homosexuality was a.choice. He is not laughing now.
Hey be careful saying the truth here, it makes some people here very anal.

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