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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Stormy

Monrovia, CA

#205068 Jul 26, 2013
Stormy days and stormy nights.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#205069 Jul 26, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
No, giggles... You don't get it. YOUR marriage doesn't live up to our standards. See, if you look at all of the time, effort, and money we've spent on getting the rights and protections that you take for granted, then you'll clearly see that you fall short of how we define marriage.
I think if YOU take a good look at your OWN inadequate marriage, maybe you'll see that the LGBT community has brought back a little bit of class and respect to the institution.
I knew it would just be a matter of time before you claimed that you invented the institution. A little closer now, right? Soon, it'll be about how you've always tolerated us being around, right?
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#205070 Jul 26, 2013
justhefacts wrote:
<quoted text>
Im justhefacts because Im a researcher and numbers guy. Try this one out how Lib women’s movement in the 60s effect today’s T.V. adds.
Spend a night paper and penceil. Look at every add when they make the Non Hispanic male look stupid and the females look smart.
Also look when a Female looks stupid the male is also included.
The look at the how the Blacks look smart and the whites are made too look stupid. You will NOT see ONE add where they make the Blacks male look stupid alone if there’s a white male in it not looking stupid.
Hears the kicker. We have a Mulatto President.
Blacks are 13% of U.S. pop
Hispanics is 15% of the U.S. pop.
BUT almost every add has a blacks in it but NO Hispanics. So much for DEMS Equality B/S Dems purposely emit the Hispanic in T.V. adds because dems trying to push Amnesty and doesent want the common man to think about this
Add breakdown
Blacks 99%
Whites 99%
Hispanics ZIP on the east coast.
Amen!!! It's been the trend for a while now. And, Mulatto is how the negroes are able to claim that we've STILL not had a black prez. Even bill Cosby has rejected Obammy's "negro-ness"...
It's been a war on Whitey for some time, now. Remember the underwear commercial with Michael Jordan and the fool that looks like he's sliding up and down on MJ's schwanz, while he's chanting "I can take you, I can take you"? Score one for the gays, and one for the blacks. A real two-fer, in my opinion...
Hooked another Republican

Monrovia, CA

#205071 Jul 26, 2013
Bang the drum and watch another cooked republican/tea party member fall.

Ethics Allegations surrounding Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann and her brief presidential campaign are getting further examination from the House Ethics Committee.
well

Round Lake, IL

#205072 Jul 26, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen!!! It's been the trend for a while now. And, Mulatto is how the negroes are able to claim that we've STILL not had a black prez. Even bill Cosby has rejected Obammy's "negro-ness"...
It's been a war on Whitey for some time, now. Remember the underwear commercial with Michael Jordan and the fool that looks like he's sliding up and down on MJ's schwanz, while he's chanting "I can take you, I can take you"? Score one for the gays, and one for the blacks. A real two-fer, in my opinion...
WTF are you on? Try rehab...
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#205073 Jul 26, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you just ask me to police my fellows and ask them to be respectful?
Seems like I just read a post by you, aimed at me that went something like "Hammer that f*cker, until it fits, never mind all the grunting and splinters...."
Why don't you start by policing yourself and maybe the rest of the room will follow your lead.
Highly unlikely.

I police the likes of Bruno. You should police the likes of Jonah1.

But you won't. Anything they say is OK with you because of your partisanship.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#205074 Jul 26, 2013
well wrote:
<quoted text>
WTF are you on? Try rehab...
Didn't work for you.
guest

Long Beach, CA

#205075 Jul 26, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
<quoted text>
Like all of your posts. We allow you to continue posting, though...
You do not "allow" anything. You have no power over who can or cannot post on Topix.6089
guest

Long Beach, CA

#205076 Jul 26, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
<quoted text>
Son, we're not even in the same chapter. I do not hate gays, I just argue my side with logic. You should be so lucky. One minute, you claim to be "250 lbs of mean and angry f***ot", the next you claim to be a pacifist, and on meds. A bipolar, medicated social worker. That's merely the preface.
Pietro is stating the facts, as they were, before the lawyers got involved, and changed the Constitutio into a Libertine License.
Frank has worked all of his life, and served honorably and has every right to post in his retirement years.
KiMare is arguing sensible facts, with a religious view, and having his personal info given out, a blatant assault on his privacy, by a poster that will not give out his name, or even a picture.
Laughing Man is no different than Chongo, except that LM has not told anyone to give their kids "pearl necklaces", a transgression that shoud have drawn protest from your side, as a foul shot.
Furthermore, when my side has produced idiots, we(my side) has attacked them, with gusto. IE: little brain, gustavo, bruno, etc. Something about policing our side. A phenomenon that has not been replicated by your side. Your side has crossed more decency lines than mine, and all have applauded each other. Another of your claims to not read "greybox" posts, while responding to same. Another of your posters promotes prostitution and drug addiction. Yet another cackles insanely. Another still denies any sort of higher power. I could go on, but is it really necessary? NOW, my good ......man (?) Are we on the same page yet?
Only fools use their real names when posting things on the internet. Fools like Gregory Dale Kirschmann, aka "KiMare".

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#205077 Jul 26, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
<quoted text>
Our type of marriage is THE benchmark, fool...Emulate us, if you can...
The benchmark, huh... Interesting...

1.)$72,000,000,000 spent on weddings in this country each year. Average cost of a wedding today is $20,000. What a spectacle.

2.)$175,000,000,000 spent on divorce litigation in this country each year. Divorce costs an estimated $30,000,000,000 to tax payers each year.

3.) 40,000,000 abortions each year world wide. In just over 7 years, you straight people put to death about 300,000,000 babies. That's equal to the population of America.

4.) There are approximately 24,000,000 kids in America without a father figure.

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Wouldn't you agree that those are some pretty staggering numbers?

I'd say your collective values on marriage and family pretty much suck.

So, when you offer yourself up as "the benchmark", I say "No thanks..."

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#205078 Jul 26, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
<quoted text>
Our marriages follow the norm, as decided by the society in which we live. Our marriages never required a fight against society, common sense, politicically-skewed courts and popular opinion to be recognized. Ours are natural. Balanced. Everything that they should be. Being with the person we love is not what we are debating. Our marriages will never count as much as yours? LOL You are now enacting another of my predictions, namely, that of becoming the "new mainstream ones". Revisionists nonsense. We are now being subjugated, relegated to 2nd class status? ROFLMAO. We are obeying the strictures set for us. Money is meant to be spent, as we see fit, no matter what our orientation. We have the market cornered on baby statistics, because we are the "breeders", remember? Tal about that when you guys have caught up, will ya? Not so easy to turn things when we keep our eyes on the rational, and refuse to fall for the hypnosis act.
If I remember my history well, and I do, I believe you'll find that interracial couples had to fight for the right to marry. That ban was overturned in 1967 by way of judicial intervention.

As far as your marriage being balanced--hardly. Divorce, domestic violence, child abuse, abortion, parental abandonment... Those things are on YOU.

See, you like to paint the LGBT community with a pretty broad brush, but then freak out if we do the same to you.

I think it's precious when you've bought into your own bullshit rhetoric.

You guys need to take a long, hard look in the mirror. It ain't pretty.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#205079 Jul 26, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
<quoted text>
I knew it would just be a matter of time before you claimed that you invented the institution. A little closer now, right? Soon, it'll be about how you've always tolerated us being around, right?
Oh Lord, you must have misread what I wrote. I have never claimed that we invented marriage. We just intend on doing a better job at it.

Like I said, so many of the same-gender couples who are currently getting married have already been together for years. And same-gender couples who adopt children REALLY want them. You should see the hoops they have to jump through in order to qualify. You tend to appreciate things that you have been denied.

You guys have just gotten sloppy is all. But we'll be happy to let you to follow our lead from now on.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#205082 Jul 27, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
<quoted text>
Son, we're not even in the same chapter. I do not hate gays, I just argue my side with logic. You should be so lucky. One minute, you claim to be "250 lbs of mean and angry f***ot", the next you claim to be a pacifist, and on meds. A bipolar, medicated social worker. That's merely the preface.
Pietro is stating the facts, as they were, before the lawyers got involved, and changed the Constitutio into a Libertine License.
Frank has worked all of his life, and served honorably and has every right to post in his retirement years.
KiMare is arguing sensible facts, with a religious view, and having his personal info given out, a blatant assault on his privacy, by a poster that will not give out his name, or even a picture.
Laughing Man is no different than Chongo, except that LM has not told anyone to give their kids "pearl necklaces", a transgression that shoud have drawn protest from your side, as a foul shot.
Furthermore, when my side has produced idiots, we(my side) has attacked them, with gusto. IE: little brain, gustavo, bruno, etc. Something about policing our side. A phenomenon that has not been replicated by your side. Your side has crossed more decency lines than mine, and all have applauded each other. Another of your claims to not read "greybox" posts, while responding to same. Another of your posters promotes prostitution and drug addiction. Yet another cackles insanely. Another still denies any sort of higher power. I could go on, but is it really necessary? NOW, my good ......man (?) Are we on the same page yet?
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Outstanding post!
I agree.

Thank you Rocky for taking the time to specifically address and expose gay twirl!
Kim

Palm Springs, CA

#205083 Jul 27, 2013
This has got to be the most bassackwards state in the Union. Florida is a close runner up. Thank God we are getting the hell out of here in a couple of weeks. Have fun peeps.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#205084 Jul 27, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said you claimed children held the marriage together. I said homosexuals claim children should not even be considered.
Children were the reason for NOT divorcing. The argument for no fault was that children would not be harmed when an unhappy marriage ended. Time has proved that false.
Moreover, the unintended result is that marriages without children and without abuse are quickly ended.
Your argument that ss couples would be 'chained' by marriage is untrue in practice.
Again, only by facing the realities of their condition and standing on their own identity will homosexuals ever find peace and acceptance.
<quoted text>
Your reason for trying to impose an imposter relationship on marriage is still false.
Homosexuals will not find peace through denial.
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
"Homosexuals will not find peace through denial."
So ominous...
How do you figure that we'll never find peace?
Are you psychic?
Are you capable of channeling the emotions of every homosexual you've ever encountered?
Maybe you are like a Jedi and can just "sense" these things.
Let me tell you when homosexuals will experience peace... When ignorant, lying, egomaniacs such as yourself finally give up hounding us.
Many of us experience peace in spite of your best efforts to involve yourself into our lives.
In case you haven't noticed (and apparently you haven't), gays and lesbians are experiencing joy the likes of which we haven't had in a very long time.
Marriages are taking place around the world. People are being honest with themselves; embracing their identity on a scale not seen in modern history. We can work, recreate, worship, create families, and LIVE life without worrying about being locked up or executed.
Seems pretty joyous to me...
It's people like you who are experiencing pain, fear, confusion, and anger. You've had to ratchet up your rhetoric in an attempt to stem the tide of our joy. And to your dismay, it hasn't worked.
You're a relic. You represent a bygone belief system. The world that you grew up in doesn't exist anymore.
And all you can do is throw out threats of an unhappy life. That's all you've got... Fear tactics...
Bye, bye, Kim... It must have been a hell of a ride for you and people like you.
Your grandkids will grow up in a world where gays and lesbians will be accepted as group of people who are minimally different than them. They will see us as equals. They won't fear or revile us.
Many people around the world have already embraced this reality. It's poor schlubs like you who are suffering.
Gay twirl with vvery much pontification...

This reality still remains; The claim of marriage for ss couples is as real as your assertion it will change the lack of longevity endemic in them.

As to your 'prophecy'? History is not very supportive, is it?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#205085 Jul 27, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
<quoted text>
Our marriages follow the norm, as decided by the society in which we live. Our marriages never required a fight against society, common sense, politicically-skewed courts and popular opinion to be recognized. Ours are natural. Balanced. Everything that they should be. Being with the person we love is not what we are debating. Our marriages will never count as much as yours? LOL You are now enacting another of my predictions, namely, that of becoming the "new mainstream ones". Revisionists nonsense. We are now being subjugated, relegated to 2nd class status? ROFLMAO. We are obeying the strictures set for us. Money is meant to be spent, as we see fit, no matter what our orientation. We have the market cornered on baby statistics, because we are the "breeders", remember? Tal about that when you guys have caught up, will ya? Not so easy to turn things when we keep our eyes on the rational, and refuse to fall for the hypnosis act.
Good one!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#205086 Jul 27, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
<quoted text>
Son, we're not even in the same chapter. I do not hate gays, I just argue my side with logic. You should be so lucky. One minute, you claim to be "250 lbs of mean and angry f***ot", the next you claim to be a pacifist, and on meds. A bipolar, medicated social worker. That's merely the preface.
Pietro is stating the facts, as they were, before the lawyers got involved, and changed the Constitutio into a Libertine License.
Frank has worked all of his life, and served honorably and has every right to post in his retirement years.
KiMare is arguing sensible facts, with a religious view, and having his personal info given out, a blatant assault on his privacy, by a poster that will not give out his name, or even a picture.
Laughing Man is no different than Chongo, except that LM has not told anyone to give their kids "pearl necklaces", a transgression that shoud have drawn protest from your side, as a foul shot.
Furthermore, when my side has produced idiots, we(my side) has attacked them, with gusto. IE: little brain, gustavo, bruno, etc. Something about policing our side. A phenomenon that has not been replicated by your side. Your side has crossed more decency lines than mine, and all have applauded each other. Another of your claims to not read "greybox" posts, while responding to same. Another of your posters promotes prostitution and drug addiction. Yet another cackles insanely. Another still denies any sort of higher power. I could go on, but is it really necessary? NOW, my good ......man (?) Are we on the same page yet?
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear, I've seen bipolar. And it looks something like the enraged silliness you just spewed forth.
Here's another clue re: bipolar disorder... Posting comments every 2 to 5 minutes is an indication of mania.
When I come on here and have to wade through page after page of yours and Frankie's gibberish, I think to myself, "Now there's something that about 1800mg of Lithium would fix."
If you look back at my posts, RARELY to I come to anyone's aid. I figure if they're adult enough to make a post, they don't need my input.
And if someone's being an ass, that's on them. If it's particularly ridiculous, I might say something. I don't appreciate attacks on honest to God Christians. And I've stood up for Christians routinely on this and other forums.
But if you think I come here to take sides, you're wrong. You guys are like a pack of wild dogs. You, Frankie and Kim are always "high-fiving" one another, like this is a game.
I'm kind of embarrassed for you when you do it. It's VERY childish.
You want to play "he said, she said", that's fine by me. I'll just keep posting in the manner that I've posted for the past several years.
He responds with accuracy to your troll attack, and you ignore the facts and remount a troll attack.

As much as you get reamed on here, I'm shocked you are still so full of it.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#205087 Jul 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
The benchmark, huh... Interesting...
1.)$72,000,000,000 spent on weddings in this country each year. Average cost of a wedding today is $20,000. What a spectacle.
2.)$175,000,000,000 spent on divorce litigation in this country each year. Divorce costs an estimated $30,000,000,000 to tax payers each year.
3.) 40,000,000 abortions each year world wide. In just over 7 years, you straight people put to death about 300,000,000 babies. That's equal to the population of America.
4.) There are approximately 24,000,000 kids in America without a father figure.
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Wouldn't you agree that those are some pretty staggering numbers?
I'd say your collective values on marriage and family pretty much suck.
So, when you offer yourself up as "the benchmark", I say "No thanks..."
And yet, when a couple maintains their vows, marriage ends up the healthiest and happiest relationship of any.

Isn't that why you desperately want to hammer a bent rod in a straight hole?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#205088 Jul 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
If I remember my history well, and I do, I believe you'll find that interracial couples had to fight for the right to marry. That ban was overturned in 1967 by way of judicial intervention.
As far as your marriage being balanced--hardly. Divorce, domestic violence, child abuse, abortion, parental abandonment... Those things are on YOU.
See, you like to paint the LGBT community with a pretty broad brush, but then freak out if we do the same to you.
I think it's precious when you've bought into your own bullshit rhetoric.
You guys need to take a long, hard look in the mirror. It ain't pretty.
Just a couple points you fail to mention;

-The failure of marriage today was predicated by government redefinition of marriage. You want to try that again...

-While domestic violence in marriage fell (because the marriage ended), domestic violence outside of marriage is epidemic. In my youth, the real violence was against men who hit women.

Forget the mirror, try some honest with what is right in front of your face!
laughing man

Pulaski, TN

#205089 Jul 27, 2013
As has been said, it's always gay bedwetting, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year.

It's about time I bought a bottle of vodka to see if I like it.

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