Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,187

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#204567 Jul 25, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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The institution of marriage as a union of man and woman, uniquely involving the procreation and rearing of children within a family, is as old as the book of Genesis.ĒĖ Baker v. Nelson (Minn. 971) 191 N.W.2d 185, 186, appeal dismissed for want of a substantial federal question, 409 U.S. 810 (1972)
Wrong

Many marriages do not involve procreation and they are just as married as those that do, no difference under US law.

And your little religious book is not US law

Same Sex Marriage is recognized legally on the state and federal level in California and in a growing number of states

You lost
missy wang

Sonoma, CA

#204568 Jul 25, 2013
the congressman has proposed doing away with the communist ideal of the minimum wage. he states that this stalinist nonsense is causing businesses to fail, new businesses wont start, people are in the streets, no items are being sold and their is unrest in the families and abortions everywhere. Now, if he is right, then we must accept this and do away with the minimum wage and then all things will be all right again just like they were in 1954. He says that he will compromise and allow a base line wage suggestion of $2.25 an hour anbd that is enough to live on. Businesses will thrive if we implement this and do away with the stalinist unions, medicare and socialist security and insane ideas that folks should be given free money when they quit working for whatever made up reason of age or fake sickness or laziness. he said his granpa lived to 94 and worked all his life...so there. Join us in the TEAPARTY to make this happen and stop all this hollering about queers and licenses. Golllleeee!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#204569 Jul 25, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Wrong
Many marriages do not involve procreation and they are just as married as those that do, no difference under US law.
And your little religious book is not US law
Same Sex Marriage is recognized legally on the state and federal level in California and in a growing number of states
You lost
SS marriage is an oxymoron.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204570 Jul 25, 2013
You said 1. "I'm not trying to understand a ss relationship."

We all clearly see that you have no desire to understand anything

You said 2. "I'm not trying to change anyone's personal description of their relationship."

And it would not matter if you tried to anyway you arenít that important.

You said 3. "I'm not judging anyone's personal relationships."

That is all you have done, and you are in no position to judge anything, people who are in a position to judge have supported same sex couples to marry on the state and federal level.

You said: "I simply and accurately noted the reality of a core distinction between ss couples and marriage."

The core description is a legal one, under state and federal law, same sex couples are indeed married. Your personal fantasy that you try to call reality has no bearing whatsoever
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204571 Jul 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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SS marriage is an oxymoron.
No it is law, recognized on both the state and federal level. That is a fact.

Your opinion carries no weight.
Amy

Fullerton, CA

#204572 Jul 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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SS marriage is an oxymoron.
Your logic is a oxymoron...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#204573 Jul 25, 2013
Big D wrote:
You said 1. "I'm not trying to understand a ss relationship."
We all clearly see that you have no desire to understand anything
You said 2. "I'm not trying to change anyone's personal description of their relationship."
And it would not matter if you tried to anyway you arenít that important.
You said 3. "I'm not judging anyone's personal relationships."
That is all you have done, and you are in no position to judge anything, people who are in a position to judge have supported same sex couples to marry on the state and federal level.
You said: "I simply and accurately noted the reality of a core distinction between ss couples and marriage."
The core description is a legal one, under state and federal law, same sex couples are indeed married. Your personal fantasy that you try to call reality has no bearing whatsoever
Of reality has no bearing on s bad ruling, why does it bother homosexuals so much when I point reality out?

“"ENOUGH"”

Since: Jul 13

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#204574 Jul 25, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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The institution of marriage as a union of man and woman, uniquely involving the procreation and rearing of children within a family, is as old as the book of Genesis.ĒĖ Baker v. Nelson (Minn. 971) 191 N.W.2d 185, 186, appeal dismissed for want of a substantial federal question, 409 U.S. 810 (1972)
Sorry but I'd have to say when Minnesota passed their marriage equality law that kind of shot this decision in the foot and made it moot. Care to try again?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#204575 Jul 25, 2013
Big D wrote:
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No it is law, recognized on both the state and federal level. That is a fact.
Your opinion carries no weight.
The fact that SS relationships are a mating behavior defect is no opinion.

SS relationships are literally 'unmarriage'.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#204576 Jul 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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The fact that SS relationships are a mating behavior defect is no opinion.
SS relationships are literally 'unmarriage'.
There is no "mating behavior" stipulated on a marriage license

Your opinions donít matter.

There is a fact however, that same sex couples are legally married and recognized on the state and federal level, recognized exactly the same as any other marriage.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204577 Jul 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Of reality has no bearing on s bad ruling, why does it bother homosexuals so much when I point reality out?
You donít understand reality.

There is a fact however that you cannot avoid. Same sex marriages are the same under California and federal law as marriage, not treated or viewed any differently than any other marriage.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#204578 Jul 25, 2013
BASTA wrote:
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Sorry but I'd have to say when Minnesota passed their marriage equality law that kind of shot this decision in the foot and made it moot. Care to try again?
The point is there are numerous court cases proving the link between marriage and procreation, of marriage as the expected societal setting for procreation. Minnesota passed a law ending marriage conjugality, not "marriage equality".
Gustavo

San Pedro, CA

#204579 Jul 25, 2013
No more SSM, stop this insanity

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#204580 Jul 25, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Wrong
Not according to that court.
Many marriages do not involve procreation and they are just as married as those that do, no difference under US law.
Marriage itself, not individual marriages, but u know this.
And your little religious book is not US law
Same Sex Marriage is recognized legally on the state and federal level in California and in a growing number of states
Yet that "....little religious book...."was cited by a judge in a legal decision. Thirty plus states say conjugal marriage only.
You lost
The battle is still being fought.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#204581 Jul 25, 2013
BASTA wrote:
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Sorry but I'd have to say when Minnesota passed their marriage equality law that kind of shot this decision in the foot and made it moot. Care to try again?
They ignored the ruling. It does not change fact.
Amy

Fullerton, CA

#204582 Jul 25, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
The point is there are numerous court cases proving the link between marriage and procreation, of marriage as the expected societal setting for procreation. Minnesota passed a law ending marriage conjugality, not "marriage equality".
Then marry a turkey baster.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204583 Jul 25, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Not according to that court.
<quoted text>
Marriage itself, not individual marriages, but u know this.
<quoted text>
Yet that "....little religious book...."was cited by a judge in a legal decision. Thirty plus states say conjugal marriage only.
<quoted text>
The battle is still being fought.
Oh yes, there are all kinds of attempts to derail justice, they will continue to fail.

Currently same sex couples are being married every day in our state and many other states and nations, with the same rights and protections and the same recognitions as any other marriage.

That will continue

and more state are preparing to have their bans overturned as well, you are on a sinking ship.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204585 Jul 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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They ignored the ruling. It does not change fact.
and the fact is that same sex couples are legally married and recognized on both the state and federal level.
CapFlag

Monrovia, CA

#204587 Jul 25, 2013
Are we still playing capture the flag?

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#204592 Jul 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Your duplicate gendered relationship is fundamentally different from marriage.
That may be your opinion, but your opinions don't get to define my marriage. That is the reality of which you so oft attempt to speak.

Troll on, Hunty.

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