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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#204362 Jul 24, 2013
-SNAFU- wrote:
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Yes indeed my good sir! Bingo,and welcome California the 13th state to pass marriage equality. Isn't it about time this thread came down? I mean the question has been settled once and for all. Finished.Over.Done,forever.... .;)
A law changed reality? Redumbant genders are now diverse genders like marriage?

Duplicate genders now connect the roots of humanity and the future in the present by the reunion of diverse genders?

I don't think so, but you are free to pretend all you want child.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204363 Jul 24, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I'm simply pointing out that the reunion of a man and woman in marriage connects humanity with the very roots of their existence and, at the same time, reaches into the future with the next generation.
But you bring up an interesting point. Even the Bible notes the incredibly profound fact that marriage reunites what was originally one genderless being.
A ss couple just cannot equate to that depth of diversity in a heterosexual couple united as one, in anyway, shape or form. The past and future joined by a man and woman into the present embarrassingly exposes the absolute barrenness of a ss couple.
It really makes it shameful to even speak of equating the two relationships.
while I am simply pointing out that same sex couples are indeed married, legally, and recognized on the state and federal level, a fact, not opinion.

You brought up barrenness again, so I will remind you again, that argument was laughed at in the supreme court, there are millions of couples that either cannot or choose not to have children, and we have never ever stopped them from getting married, the ability or decision to have children is not any kind of basis for deciding if a couple can marry, never has been.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#204364 Jul 24, 2013
Big D wrote:
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while I am simply pointing out that same sex couples are indeed married, legally, and recognized on the state and federal level, a fact, not opinion.
You brought up barrenness again, so I will remind you again, that argument was laughed at in the supreme court, there are millions of couples that either cannot or choose not to have children, and we have never ever stopped them from getting married, the ability or decision to have children is not any kind of basis for deciding if a couple can marry, never has been.
You lie.

I brought up far more than barrenness.

A bad ruling cannot change the vast and numerous distinctions between marriage and SS couples.

Moreover, not only was there not agreement about procreation, the bare majority flew in the face of previous SCOTUS rulings.

No piece of paper can equate distinct relationships. And that is ALL SS couples have.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#204365 Jul 24, 2013
-SNAFU- wrote:
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Yes indeed my good sir! Bingo,and welcome California the 13th state to pass marriage equality. Isn't it about time this thread came down? I mean the question has been settled once and for all. Finished.Over.Done,forever.... .;)
The 13th state to reject marriage conjugality, but not by the will of the people.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#204366 Jul 24, 2013
Big D wrote:
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while I am simply pointing out that same sex couples are indeed married, legally, and recognized on the state and federal level, a fact, not opinion.
You brought up barrenness again, so I will remind you again, that argument was laughed at in the supreme court, there are millions of couples that either cannot or choose not to have children, and we have never ever stopped them from getting married, the ability or decision to have children is not any kind of basis for deciding if a couple can marry, never has been.
The willingness to accept each other as husband AND wife is why the license is issued. Sex, is part of the marital union, and we all know sex makes babies. That's it.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#204367 Jul 24, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Why would I waste the time with a deliberate and continual liar?
You can't even be honest about accusing me of troll behavior because I exposed a gay troll.
You live a lie, and you demand others join your deceit.
Once again, let it be known that he refuses to meet with me. I suspect that if he met me, he would have a much more difficult time saying the stuff he says on this forum. His anonymity, such as it is, provides him with a shield.

Either that or he's afraid to meet me.

I am a pacifist. He has no reason what so ever to fear me.

Sitting down face to face, over a cup of coffee or glass of wine might help us understand one another better.

But he refuses.

Pity...
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204368 Jul 24, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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The willingness to accept each other as husband AND wife is why the license is issued. Sex, is part of the marital union, and we all know sex makes babies. That's it.
No there are restrictions on marriage, it is not willingness alone.

I know sex is the only thing you think marriage is about, but that is not at all the case in the eye of a reasonable person as our justice system would say.

Same sex couples are married, legally, and recognized on both the state and federal level.

People have sex regardless of their marital status

People have babies regardless of their marital status

Legally

Facts, not opinion

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#204369 Jul 24, 2013
Big D wrote:
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while I am simply pointing out that same sex couples are indeed married, legally, and recognized on the state and federal level, a fact, not opinion.
You brought up barrenness again, so I will remind you again, that argument was laughed at in the supreme court, there are millions of couples that either cannot or choose not to have children, and we have never ever stopped them from getting married, the ability or decision to have children is not any kind of basis for deciding if a couple can marry, never has been.
Kennedy himself even brought up the issue of children. He said that children are placed at a disadvantage by not allowing their same-gender parent's marriage to be legally recognized.

He addressed the fact that children of same-gender parents do not feel that their families are equal to other legally married couples.

He gave examples of how insurance coverage for children are at risk.

He also talked about how social security death benefits are not applied to children of same-gender married couples.

And finally, he talked about how certain laws make crime against Federal Agents and their families a much more serious offense. These laws are set up to deter criminals from targeting Federal Agents and their families. With DOMA, same-gender married couples and their children weren't protected by such laws.

So, Kennedy absolutely had children in mind when he wrote his decision.
Amy

Fullerton, CA

#204370 Jul 24, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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You lie.
I brought up far more than barrenness.
A bad ruling cannot change the vast and numerous distinctions between marriage and SS couples.
Moreover, not only was there not agreement about procreation, the bare majority flew in the face of previous SCOTUS rulings.
No piece of paper can equate distinct relationships. And that is ALL SS couples have.
page after page of pointless bigoted posts..you never once mention anything of love and commitment between two people, the REAL reason that people get married. If procreation is the only thing that matters to you, then marry a turkey baster.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#204371 Jul 24, 2013
Big D wrote:
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No there are restrictions on marriage, it is not willingness alone.
The willingness to accept each other as husband and wife.
I know sex is the only thing you think marriage is about, but that is not at all the case in the eye of a reasonable person as our justice system would say.
Is there no end to your powers....now u can read other people's minds. Why are men and women joined together in "marriage" a formally recognized union?
Same sex couples are married, legally, and recognized on both the state and federal level.
Their relationships have been designated marriage. That is the distinction.
People have sex regardless of their marital status
People have babies regardless of their marital status
people do all sorts of things outside marriage, sex, live together, etc. So what's your point?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204372 Jul 24, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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The willingness to accept each other as husband and wife.
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Is there no end to your powers....now u can read other people's minds. Why are men and women joined together in "marriage" a formally recognized union?
<quoted text>
Their relationships have been designated marriage. That is the distinction.
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people do all sorts of things outside marriage, sex, live together, etc. So what's your point?
I didn't realize you were so young, you probably don't know the laws around marriage, there are age limits, permission clauses in some state for underage, there are polygamy laws there are a number of legal restrictions on marriage.

Men and woman and men and men and women and women, same sex marriage is legal and recognized on the state and federal level regardless of your ignorance of that fact.

Same sex marriage has also been designated as marriage

The point is, that marriage is not only about sex, not only about children. Millions and millions have and are married without either the intent or ability to have children, marriage is not limited to that.
Nozzed

Monrovia, CA

#204374 Jul 24, 2013
Readers are just over joyed that Prop8 supporters have all gone in for enema baths.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#204375 Jul 24, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Your relationship has no connection to the very roots of human existence. The reunion of a male and female reflect those roots in a powerful way.
Load of nonsense. In any event, my relationship isn't required to have a connection to the very roots of human existence. Neither is anyone elses.
KiMare wrote:
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Your relationship births nothing for future humanity.
I would disagree, but ultimately it's irrelevant since it isn't required to.
KiMare wrote:
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Marriage is mating behavior and humanity joining together to provide the very best for human fruit.
No fruit is required from marriage. Never has been never will be. And your fruit is rotten, no one wants it.
KiMare wrote:
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I'm sorry,
Yes. Yes you are.
KiMare wrote:
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but all you have is a double mutation mistake relationship.
You seem to think that I give a shit what you think about my relationship and the relationship of other gays. You would be mistaken. I only care what the state and the federal government say. They say my marriage is the same as yours and that you aren't special. They trump you. They always will.
KiMare wrote:
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Perhaps 'mutake' would be a better description than marriage?
Perhaps that made up word, just like all your other made up phrases simply demonstrates how desperate you are. Nothing more.
Have a good day you pathetic c*nt.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#204376 Jul 24, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Hardly.
I was referring to further back than 200,000 years ago. The reunion of man and woman in marriage reflects early genderless life. Moreover, you still ignore the other side; Marriage connects us to our past and our future.
Ss relationships are a momentary mistaken mutation aberration.
The distinction could not be more graphic or monumental!
The distinction exists only in your head. Because your a moron.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204377 Jul 24, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Kennedy himself even brought up the issue of children. He said that children are placed at a disadvantage by not allowing their same-gender parent's marriage to be legally recognized.
He addressed the fact that children of same-gender parents do not feel that their families are equal to other legally married couples.
He gave examples of how insurance coverage for children are at risk.
He also talked about how social security death benefits are not applied to children of same-gender married couples.
And finally, he talked about how certain laws make crime against Federal Agents and their families a much more serious offense. These laws are set up to deter criminals from targeting Federal Agents and their families. With DOMA, same-gender married couples and their children weren't protected by such laws.
So, Kennedy absolutely had children in mind when he wrote his decision.
Absolutely, and I agree with him.
LaVerne

Monrovia, CA

#204378 Jul 24, 2013
This type of behavior is well known in the Republican, GOP, RNC and Tea Party circles.
Douglas Tessitor and his side kick Gene Murabito are avid followers of this type of bullying behavior too.

Glendora, California city council men..
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Big D

Modesto, CA

#204379 Jul 24, 2013
Amy wrote:
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page after page of pointless bigoted posts..you never once mention anything of love and commitment between two people, the REAL reason that people get married. If procreation is the only thing that matters to you, then marry a turkey baster.
You hit the point right on the head!

My wife means more to me than our ability to have children

My wife means more to me than sex

I would stay with my wife regardless of our ability to have children, or even the ability to have sex.

Our marriage means a whole lot more to us than that.

It makes me sad that some of these people cannot think past the biological function, that their marriages mean no more to them than that alone.

No wonder they think that same sex couples marrying will weaken their marriages, their marriages are so weak to start with.
Huh

Faribault, MN

#204380 Jul 24, 2013
Time for SCOTUS to do away with UNCONSTITUTIONAL same sex marriage bans and just make it legal nation wide...HATE AND BIGOTRY CANT BE LAW.
Clean Water

Monrovia, CA

#204381 Jul 24, 2013
The new Silicon Valley Advanced Water Purification Center will open this fall, but due to public perceptions, the water from the plant will be diverted for use in fire hydrants, landscaping and electrical fountains instead of homes.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204382 Jul 24, 2013
Huh wrote:
Time for SCOTUS to do away with UNCONSTITUTIONAL same sex marriage bans and just make it legal nation wide...HATE AND BIGOTRY CANT BE LAW.
well although I agree in general, I understand why they did not.

Roe V Wade

Although I certainly agree with the Roe V Wade decision, its pushing it on every state all in one moment in time, made it a hot button political issue that was a rallying cry for those opposed to women’s right to their own reproductive system.

By allowing the states to come to the right decision on their own, and in their own time on same sex marriage, they are undercutting the politics.

Pressure is mounting on these states to do the right thing, large businesses are re-considering where they will do business, where to locate offices in states that do not recognize the marriages of their employees.

By having the states come to the right decision in their own time, it becomes a more natural state.

It will happen, but it will take some time

Take this recent victory as a win-win, not only is same sex marriage recognized in California, but more importantly, it is recognized on the federal level with the changes to DOMA

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