Judge overturns California's ban on s...

Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#204220 Jul 22, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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I do. If I gave it any real thought, I'd not be here for the fun factor. I'd leave the matter be. We all know that you are going to have your way, and I just can't resist throwing out the zingers. My thoughts can't matter that much.
When I was a kid, a teen, and then a young adult, I would look for information on homosexuality. Back then we didn't have access to computers. I only had access to a small library in a small, rural, southern town. And you can imagine there wasn't a lot of information out there.

Now kids and teens have access to the internet. And I firmly believe that some gay teens and young adults find their way to these forums and read what people say. They're trying to understand themselves better and trying to figure out where they are able to fit in society.

I think that these kids (I call anybody under 30 a kid) are damaged, hurt, frightened, and feel a sense of isolation when they read some of the negative posts that find their way to this forum.

Even the comments that you say are made in fun can have a negative impact on them.

It is true that even though our country has come a long way in supporting LGBT people--especially the young--there are still kids out there in rural locations where they are so scared of coming out. They fear being harassed at school and in the community. And they fear losing their family and friends.

I guess what I'm saying is that I wish we could tone down the rhetoric and nastiness on here.

Words absolutely have an impact. They can encourage others to act abusive towards gay people and they can cause gay youth to act in negative ways towards themselves.

Nobody suspected that I was gay when I was growing up. But those kids who were effeminate or tom-boyish were such targets. I saw how they began to skip school--some dropped out. Some failed classes. Some got caught up in drugs. No one I knew tried to kill themselves. But that does happen.

Do you think we can just tone it down a little?

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#204228 Jul 22, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
BTW, VV,
I was kind of disappointed that you took no notice of the bit about shooting fat guys with paintball guns? I'd expected....something..
:D
I don't see myself as fat. I'm built more like a linebacker. I've always been a big guy. Nobody has ever told me in person that I'm overweight or fat. Maybe it's my size? Several people have told me that prior to getting to know me they thought I was a little menacing looking. There's a woman in the apartments where I live who saw me out late one night walking my crippled, 14 year old dog. She couldn't see me clearly; only my silhouette. She kind of screamed and said, "WHO IS THAT?!?" I walked over into the light and she said, "OH!! It's you! I was scared!"

The only disadvantage to being as big as I am is that I haven't been able to shop for clothes at a regular department store since I was in high school. Regular shirtsleeves stop about 6 inches from my wrists. And pants look like "high-waters". So, I have to go to "big and tall" shops for my clothes. They're so much more expensive and there isn't as much selection. Ralph Lauren and some of the more widely known men's clothing designers have come out with lines for tall people. But their kind of pricy.

I once went to a Mazda dealership to test drive a Miata. I wanted a small convertible that I could park easily when I lived in San Francisco. Even with the seat back all the way, I couldn't get into the thing. I did, however, drive a Honda Del Sol for several years. That thing had so much leg and head room. It was like sitting in a bathtub. It was a very comfortable car. I miss it every so often and think about trying to find a good used one.

So, you can call me "fat" if you want to. It doesn't bother me. I know what I look like.
commonpeeps

Monrovia, CA

#204231 Jul 22, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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OK fatso! Will do.
Don't be such an azz, it makes you look foolish.
Golden

Covina, CA

#204232 Jul 22, 2013
Not a problem any more, tough apples for those who don't like it.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204233 Jul 22, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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I don't see myself as fat. I'm built more like a linebacker. I've always been a big guy. Nobody has ever told me in person that I'm overweight or fat. Maybe it's my size? Several people have told me that prior to getting to know me they thought I was a little menacing looking. There's a woman in the apartments where I live who saw me out late one night walking my crippled, 14 year old dog. She couldn't see me clearly; only my silhouette. She kind of screamed and said, "WHO IS THAT?!?" I walked over into the light and she said, "OH!! It's you! I was scared!"
The only disadvantage to being as big as I am is that I haven't been able to shop for clothes at a regular department store since I was in high school. Regular shirtsleeves stop about 6 inches from my wrists. And pants look like "high-waters". So, I have to go to "big and tall" shops for my clothes. They're so much more expensive and there isn't as much selection. Ralph Lauren and some of the more widely known men's clothing designers have come out with lines for tall people. But their kind of pricy.
I once went to a Mazda dealership to test drive a Miata. I wanted a small convertible that I could park easily when I lived in San Francisco. Even with the seat back all the way, I couldn't get into the thing. I did, however, drive a Honda Del Sol for several years. That thing had so much leg and head room. It was like sitting in a bathtub. It was a very comfortable car. I miss it every so often and think about trying to find a good used one.
So, you can call me "fat" if you want to. It doesn't bother me. I know what I look like.
I knew a guy that said if he was 9 feet tall his weight would be perfect, he was working on that getting taller thing.

I liked that

Personally I think we focus too much on the superficial

Since: Nov 12

Camptonville, CA

#204236 Jul 22, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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I don't see myself as fat. I'm built more like a linebacker. I've always been a big guy. Nobody has ever told me in person that I'm overweight or fat. Maybe it's my size? Several people have told me that prior to getting to know me they thought I was a little menacing looking. There's a woman in the apartments where I live who saw me out late one night walking my crippled, 14 year old dog. She couldn't see me clearly; only my silhouette. She kind of screamed and said, "WHO IS THAT?!?" I walked over into the light and she said, "OH!! It's you! I was scared!"
The only disadvantage to being as big as I am is that I haven't been able to shop for clothes at a regular department store since I was in high school. Regular shirtsleeves stop about 6 inches from my wrists. And pants look like "high-waters". So, I have to go to "big and tall" shops for my clothes. They're so much more expensive and there isn't as much selection. Ralph Lauren and some of the more widely known men's clothing designers have come out with lines for tall people. But their kind of pricy.
I once went to a Mazda dealership to test drive a Miata. I wanted a small convertible that I could park easily when I lived in San Francisco. Even with the seat back all the way, I couldn't get into the thing. I did, however, drive a Honda Del Sol for several years. That thing had so much leg and head room. It was like sitting in a bathtub. It was a very comfortable car. I miss it every so often and think about trying to find a good used one.
So, you can call me "fat" if you want to. It doesn't bother me. I know what I look like.
Sure seems like it bothered you after that long rant about it.
Golden

Covina, CA

#204240 Jul 22, 2013
Fallen graces, but we don't care.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#204241 Jul 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Not dismissed, it can't be.
You simply (in every sense of the word) denied reality.
Oh no, Sweet Pea, you were utterly and completely dismissed.

You still labor under the misconception that your opinion has any relevance to my actual marriage.

With each passing day, more and more legally recognized SSM's become a reality.
Tommy Tucker

Alamo, CA

#204242 Jul 22, 2013
Has any one seen my boy friend, Fox De Lux. He was last seen at Paul and Harveys Gay Bar in Sunnyvale.
OhStewOne

Covina, CA

#204243 Jul 22, 2013
Oh Tommy Tucker your a jerk!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#204244 Jul 22, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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Oh no, Sweet Pea, you were utterly and completely dismissed.
You still labor under the misconception that your opinion has any relevance to my actual marriage.
With each passing day, more and more legally recognized SSM's become a reality.
You can hold a piece of paper from any court around and dismiss me, but you still are nowhere near married.

That is unchangeable reality.
OhStewOne

Covina, CA

#204245 Jul 22, 2013
Oh Tommy Tucker your such a jerk today or any other as I'm told.

Spots did change much either.
Pietro Armando

Schenectady, NY

#204246 Jul 22, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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I can never tell where you stand on this issue (actually I can) because out of one side of your mouth you talk as though polygamy is inevitable. And then it's "Katie, bar the door!"
But then on the other hand, you talk about how banning polygamy represents inequality.
So which is it? Are you for polygamy or against it?
I still stand by my comment that this decision in no way helps polygamy.
These decisions were based on the fact that 1.) Those in favor of Prop. 8 didn't have standing. 2.) In those states where marriage is legal for same-gender partners, DOMA--which banned federal benefits and protections--was unconstitutional.
Until polygamy is legalized in a state, they're not going to be able to fight for federal benefits.
And since polygamy has already been addressed by the Supreme Court, I don't know if it will have a chance or not.
That's "their" fight.
If you want to say that it's unfair to seek marriage equality for same-gender couples but not polygamists, then that's your right.
Not being a polygamist, I'm not going to enter the fray.
Does it really matter? Why does it matter to u or any other SSMers if polygamy in some form is legalized? You speak of "marriage equality", in in reality, it's a rejection of marriage conjugality. The sole defining marital legal standard. The ultimate goal, if not admitted, is the rejection of monogamous conjugal marriage, nationwide. Why does it matter if polygamy is legal, or even incest?
Hank

Los Angeles, CA

#204247 Jul 22, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
Oy vey. Weight stories. But Frankie is off topic if he mentions poly MARRIAGE. Priceless.
Yer a funny lil' queer, Frankie. A funny lil' fruit.
Sails

Covina, CA

#204248 Jul 22, 2013
We don't care Hankie, or is it Frankie?

It's all over with, the ship has set sail.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#204249 Jul 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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You can hold a piece of paper from any court around and dismiss me, but you still are nowhere near married.
That is unchangeable reality.
I do hold a piece of paper, but that's not what REALLY makes us married, and you know it.

Your "nowhere near married" ASSessment is nothing more than opinion.

Troll on, Deary.
guest

Long Beach, CA

#204252 Jul 22, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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Are you really that easily intimidated?
LOL
Turn off the computer.
I am not intimidated by anyone. So go fck yourself troll. Oh wait, u are a limpdik and can't get it up.
guest

Long Beach, CA

#204253 Jul 22, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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His posts make sense. Yours do not.
No they don't. And neither do yours.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#204254 Jul 23, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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I do hold a piece of paper, but that's not what REALLY makes us married, and you know it.
Your "nowhere near married" ASSessment is nothing more than opinion.
Troll on, Deary.
The reunion of a man and woman in marriage reflects the very roots of human existence, genderless life.

Go back in a ss couples' history, and what do you find? Immediately? A mother and father.

Which brings us to the life-giving result of a man and woman united in marriage reaching into the future.

A ss couple? No past, and no future. A duplicate gendered half of marriage making the hilarious claim they are the same.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#204255 Jul 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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The reunion of a man and woman in marriage reflects the very roots of human existence, genderless life.
Go back in a ss couples' history, and what do you find? Immediately? A mother and father.
Which brings us to the life-giving result of a man and woman united in marriage reaching into the future.
A ss couple? No past, and no future. A duplicate gendered half of marriage making the hilarious claim they are the same.
Here we go again, the ability or intent to have children has never been a requirement for a marriage license.

Same sex couples are married now, legally and recognized at the state and federal level

Your ignorance of the facts, does not in any way change the facts

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