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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#197115 Jun 21, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
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1) They are allowed to try, as they possess all of tthe requisite equipment.
2) You must be insane to think that there is no state interest in supporting 2 biological parents.
3) We aren't talking about "protection", we are talking about extending rights to invalid groups.
4) The number of rights is identical. The number of claimants is larger. Can't you count?
5) You're insane. I used the word correctly. Because the number of claimants is greater, not the amount of rights sought after. You are attempting to confuse the issue. I ain't having it. Add the correct fields.
6) You sadly claim that I have said something that I have not.
7) WTF I am talking about is how your side says that the government has no right to dictate whom we can marry, then you claim that the laws limiting the amount of spouses, or the marriage of siblings, is justified. One minute you decry governmental involvement in marriage, the next, you celebrate it. You lack consistency. You are confused.
8) Earth to morn yourself, you should learn to be consistent. Idiot-boi.
Spot on, old chap. Bravo!
kookaa

Long Beach, CA

#197116 Jun 21, 2013
People should be able to marry whoever they want.
Stubs

Monrovia, CA

#197117 Jun 21, 2013
Did you stub your big toe?
kookaa

Long Beach, CA

#197118 Jun 21, 2013
Stubs wrote:
Did you stub your big toe?
No, did you? If so, I hope it gets better soon.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#197119 Jun 21, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Big Red
Or to put it another way, marriage developed as a means of dealing with the product of the male female sexual union, off spring. Remove that element, and would marriage exist, as a distinct, recognized by society, relationship?
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The vast majority haven't thought that deep on the matter.
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Why people marry should not be confused with why marriage exists.
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SSCs differ in form and function.
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Perhaps, but the risk of pregnancy is not an issue for ANY SSC. Even if an OSC doesn't "plan" on having children. They sometimes do anyway. "Two go to bed, but three get up".
I don't know if you understand how Kimare is defining marriage.

He is saying that marriage exists because men must be legally (or traditionally) tied to a woman so that he will take care of the family.

He is saying that without marriage, men would go around, spreading their seed, impregnating one woman after another, but not hanging around to care for the offspring.

He's saying that women aren't as capable of providing the resources needed to raise the children. That's why men must be tied down in a relationship.

Now, look at your own marriage (I'm assuming you're married). Is that how your own marriage is defined? Is that why you entered into marriage?

Most people agree that "love" became the significant basis for marriage in the 17th and 18th century--during the period of enlightenment.

And I would argue that the basis for the vast majority of marriages today is love. Some people still marry for wealth or status. Some marry because of an unplanned pregnancy. Some marry due to physical attraction.

I don't agree with Kimare's primitive notion--his theory.

I just want you to think about what Kimare is saying about marriage--that's all.

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#197120 Jun 21, 2013
kookaa wrote:
People should be able to marry whoever they want.
NAMBLA thanks you.

Get outta my neighborhood!

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Knoxville, TN

#197122 Jun 21, 2013
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KiMare wrote:
Now you are confused about an i-phone spell checker flub (replace 'I'd' with 'of'), but not enough to not respond. Interesting. This while you ignore the slimy gay twirl slide you continue.
I always get a kick out of a ss couple who will NEVER procreate telling married people about the validity of kids. But laying that aside, 96% of married couples do have children. Those who are unable would if they could. That leaves a fraction who choose not to have children. In very large, we ARE marrying to have children.
I'm not surprised when you reject the Bible to hold your denial, but when you really expose your ignorant bias when you reject science. I understand that for a gay, mating behavior is confusing, but again, you have no qualification to speak for a heterosexual couple. Especially in contradiction to science.
The bottom line, this isn't my opinion, it's simple science;
At the most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Ss couples are a defective failure of mating behavior.
You know what I get a kick out of? I get a kick out of you thinking that you're some mystical, magical, god just because you happened to fall on a woman a few times and ended up spitting out some kids.

It's hardly special. People have been having kids since the beginning of mankind.

And I'm not sure where you're getting your figures, but the number I found was that there are about 58,410,000 married couples living in the U.S. Of that number, 28,896,000 do not have children. That means about 50.6% do not have children.

There has been an 80% increase between 1976 and 1980 in the number of women aged 40-44 who have never given birth.

In case you haven't noticed, the baby-boom has passed. The economy is in the tank. People aren't having kids at the rate they once did. More women are deciding to not marry--to pursue careers. And those who do marry are deciding, largely for economic reasons, to remain childless.

Be gone, you fool... Nobody cares about your contrived definitions or your horrendous mathematical skills.

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#197123 Jun 21, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
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The world has lost its collective mind.
Well, now you're just sounding geriatric.

Isn't it always the older generation who looks at the younger generation and throws up their hands in exasperation?

And yet, the world keeps spinning, society continues to thrive, people continue to marry, babies continue to be born, and life goes on.

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Stubs

Monrovia, CA

#197124 Jun 21, 2013
Now pinky has stepped in and found out what a stubbed toe feels like.

Did you stub your big toe, again?

Don't kick the door or wall again and he pain should go away in a couple of weeks or so!

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get outta my neighborhood

UK

#197125 Jun 21, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Well, now you're just sounding geriatric.
Isn't it always the older generation who looks at the younger generation and throws up their hands in exasperation?
And yet, the world keeps spinning, society continues to thrive, people continue to marry, babies continue to be born, and life goes on.
Another uppity lecture from Generation X-crement.

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kookaa

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#197126 Jun 21, 2013
get outta my neighborhood wrote:
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NAMBLA thanks you.
Get outta my neighborhood!
Fail.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#197130 Jun 22, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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I don't know if you understand how Kimare is defining marriage.
He is saying that marriage exists because men must be legally (or traditionally) tied to a woman so that he will take care of the family.
He is saying that without marriage, men would go around, spreading their seed, impregnating one woman after another, but not hanging around to care for the offspring.
He's saying that women aren't as capable of providing the resources needed to raise the children. That's why men must be tied down in a relationship.
Now, look at your own marriage (I'm assuming you're married). Is that how your own marriage is defined? Is that why you entered into marriage?
Most people agree that "love" became the significant basis for marriage in the 17th and 18th century--during the period of enlightenment.
And I would argue that the basis for the vast majority of marriages today is love. Some people still marry for wealth or status. Some marry because of an unplanned pregnancy. Some marry due to physical attraction.
I don't agree with Kimare's primitive notion--his theory.
I just want you to think about what Kimare is saying about marriage--that's all.
Wow, where is the confusion now???

Let me show you where it really is.

1. I defined marriage in no such way. Social science does. Your argument is with science honey, not me.

2. I did not assert that men go around spreading seed unless tied to marriage. Evolution dictates that across species. Are you denying evolution too?

In fact, just yesterday CNN posted this article;

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/21/opinion/
laslocky-monogamy-marriage/ind ex.html?iref=allsearch

3. I didn't assert that woman are incapable of raising children without support, the government did. Hence, most single mothers get more support from the government than a man can provide. Notice, they are not 'doing it on their own'.

4. How I live out marriage on the surface does not negate the roots of why I married. That's like arguing food is not necessary for life, because I eat food more often because I like it, rather than because I am hungry.

5. History shows that love has ALWAYS been a driving force of marriage. It has not always been an option for survival however.

I want you to think about the degree of your denial of reality. And the distortion you exist in.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#197131 Jun 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
Now you are confused about an i-phone spell checker flub (replace 'I'd' with 'of'), but not enough to not respond. Interesting. This while you ignore the slimy gay twirl slide you continue.
I always get a kick out of a ss couple who will NEVER procreate telling married people about the validity of kids. But laying that aside, 96% of married couples do have children. Those who are unable would if they could. That leaves a fraction who choose not to have children. In very large, we ARE marrying to have children.
I'm not surprised when you reject the Bible to hold your denial, but when you really expose your ignorant bias when you reject science. I understand that for a gay, mating behavior is confusing, but again, you have no qualification to speak for a heterosexual couple. Especially in contradiction to science.
The bottom line, this isn't my opinion, it's simple science;
At the most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Ss couples are a defective failure of mating behavior.
veryvermilion wrote:
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You know what I get a kick out of? I get a kick out of you thinking that you're some mystical, magical, god just because you happened to fall on a woman a few times and ended up spitting out some kids.
It's hardly special. People have been having kids since the beginning of mankind.
And I'm not sure where you're getting your figures, but the number I found was that there are about 58,410,000 married couples living in the U.S. Of that number, 28,896,000 do not have children. That means about 50.6% do not have children.
There has been an 80% increase between 1976 and 1980 in the number of women aged 40-44 who have never given birth.
In case you haven't noticed, the baby-boom has passed. The economy is in the tank. People aren't having kids at the rate they once did. More women are deciding to not marry--to pursue careers. And those who do marry are deciding, largely for economic reasons, to remain childless.
Be gone, you fool... Nobody cares about your contrived definitions or your horrendous mathematical skills.
Wow, pushed some buttons there VV. Kicked your gay twirl into a class 5 tornado...

Lets get this straight.

-Noting the silliness of a mutually sterile couple dictating the place of children in marriage makes me the victim of a 'god complex'??? Did you really try that idiotic argument???

-As to the percentage of children, you need to expand your understanding past gay twirl censorship. I wasn't referring to the changing percentage in the US. In world history, the average is estimated at 96%.

Moreover, the point remains, the vast majority of marriage does or would include children if possible.

Be gone, you fool... Nobody cares about your contrived, dumbed down restrictions on marriage or your horrendous thinking skills.
get outta my neighborhood

UK

#197132 Jun 22, 2013
kookaa wrote:
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Fail.
In what manner, Brucie? All thinking people know that NAMBLA watches you Folsom Street types very closely. Since the Common Man has been cowed into "accepting" the blight of SocietyŠ, then their turn is next.
get outta my neighborhood

UK

#197133 Jun 22, 2013
get outta my neighborhood wrote:
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In what manner, Brucie? All thinking people know that NAMBLA watches you Folsom Street types very closely. Since the Common Man has been cowed into "accepting" the blight of SocietyŠ, then their turn is next.
The bestiality bunch has certainly been emboldened after what Neil Patrick Harris has done with a dog for two years in a row.

This world is long lost. There's only way to recoup some semblance of Civilization.
correction

UK

#197134 Jun 22, 2013
There's only oneway to recoup some semblance of Civilization.
laughing man

UK

#197135 Jun 22, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Well, now you're just sounding geriatric.
Isn't it always the older generation who looks at the younger generation and throws up their hands in exasperation?
And yet, the world keeps spinning, society continues to thrive, people continue to marry, babies continue to be born, and life goes on.
We've given you the world, and what are you doing with it, Caligula? You and your "parents", such as they were, have given nothing. Mother Gaia is infested with a parasite.

Thank me for this moment of Enlightenment.
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#197136 Jun 22, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Another gay post by Bruno. I liked you better when you were straight.
Francis Rizzo, use your own slogan you fruit.
Frankie Rizzo

Westminster, CA

#197137 Jun 22, 2013
Yes I swallow
FlatRock

Monrovia, CA

#197139 Jun 22, 2013
Still stacking the skeets are you?

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